prime95 gives error even at stock speeds

[DarkKnight]

I have a Barton 2500+ with HyperXDDR333. recently i tried overcloking my chip but adjusting the multiplier and FSB. At first I tried 11 X 200 but it wouldn't go into windows. Tried 12.5X180, same. Then I tried running the chip at :
12.5X170 and prime95 gave an error in 3 mins
12.5:166 and error in 56 mins
12X166 error in 47 mins
and then stock:
11X166 and it gave an error in 56 mins.

The temps in my system are fine (38 rest at 43 load at stock). (41 rest and 47 load at my maximum overclock).

Why is it giving an error now? Do you guys think I damaged my chip or ram?

 

[AnarchyInTheUS]

Like the manual for Prime 95 says, there is an error somewhere in your hardware or its configuration. Trying to find that out could be a very daunting task. I would guess it is probably gonna be the Mobo, CPU, Mem, or maybe the HD. The thing is, you can still go on and ignore the error, it isn't gonna do you that much harm. The only problems you might face are when you have your CPU maxed out at some point and your hardware has the potential for failure.

 

[DarkKnight]

how can i find the specific part that is damaged so I can replace it?

I just did a test today and the system lasted less than 1 minute on stock. The system still works fine, right after the test i played BF1942 for an hour, but I really want to fix this before i go off to college so i'll have no worries.

 

[leeperpsu]

personally i wouldn't worry about it at all...

first i'd uninstall prime95 and then crush the cd or floppy you saved it to.
you wanna test an overclock...

boots into windows...cool
loop 3dmark2001se...cool
loop3dmark03...cool
sisoft sandra max3 burn in test...cool

if you lasts thru all that your totally fine!!!!

 

[Rastus]

I think you need to go through your bios with a fine tooth comb. Something got changed while you were overclocking.

 

[4x4expy]

Originally posted by: Rastus
I think you need to go through your bios with a fine tooth comb. Something got changed while you were overclocking.

I second this. If you are not overclocking, I would suspect something funny in the memory configuration. Try running memtest. If you don't get any errors in 10 or so loops, then forget that I posted this. If you do get errors, then try setting to SPD and make sure that you are at a 1:1 cpudr ratio.

Or you might just try clearing the CMOS first, and see if that fixes the prob.

 

[wetcat007]

Originally posted by: Rastus
I think you need to go through your bios with a fine tooth comb. Something got changed while you were overclocking.

Just reset the bios to defaults to make it easy

 

[solofly]

Have you tried Memtest86?

 

[seismik]

Having been in your situation I would agree with what these guys are recommending. First, run memtest86. I found one of my brand new sticks of Corsair RAM to be defective and a quick RMA fixed everything up.

On another system I was troubleshooting the problem turned out to be RAM timing. I had to scale things back to 2-3-3 fom 2-2-2, or as was suggested set to SPD.

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: leeperpsu
personally i wouldn't worry about it at all...

first i'd uninstall prime95 and then crush the cd or floppy you saved it to.
you wanna test an overclock...

boots into windows...cool
loop 3dmark2001se...cool
loop3dmark03...cool
sisoft sandra max3 burn in test...cool

if you lasts thru all that your totally fine!!!!

LMAO!

i think you just made everyones "i know nothing" list!!!!

 

[DarkKnight]

i reset my bios and set my ram to spd but prime95 stopped in 2 minutes. I then downloaded memtest86 and ran it for 3 hrs and it had 117 errors! the problem was the ram all along. Could overclocking the ram to 200mhz have busted the ram? I only ran it at that speed for 1 minute. I hope I can still return the ram or get a replacement, its only 3 months old.

 

[THUGSROOK]

hyperx has a lifetime warranty

 

[ReiAyanami]

i think bf1942 is a better stress test

 

[seismik]

Could overclocking the ram to 200mhz have busted the ram?

Unlikely. I don't have any experience with HyperX RAM, but I know Corsair warns that over-volting your RAM above 1.7v voids your warranty. I'm not sure how they can tell whether or not you've done that, but so long as you didn't boost the voltage that much you will definitely be able to RMA the faulty chips.

Do you have 2 sticks of RAM or just one? If you've got two you'll have to isolate which one is causing you grief by running Memtest86 on each stick.

 

[DarkKnight]

i've only got 1

 

[leeperpsu]

hey thugsrook,

i must know something to be getting succesful overclocks, and having a stable computer...i must know something seeing that i'm an electrical engineer. just because i think prime95 is a joke doesn't mean i know nothing. i think you just made everyones "I'm ignorant" list.

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: leeperpsu
hey thugsrook,

i must know something to be getting succesful overclocks, and having a stable computer...i must know something seeing that i'm an electrical engineer. just because i think prime95 is a joke doesn't mean i know nothing. i think you just made everyones "I'm ignorant" list.

Actually, Thugs is one of the better o/c'ers here. Me, I run 95 and loop 3dMark, or more typically run a large number of apps (with 95) so from my view point you're bothe right and both wrong . Now how's that for confusing? btw, I rate myself as less than both of you in o/c'ing ability.

I think if you get errors while running whatever programs you run on your computer, then your stability testing leaves room for work. If you never crash and everything works fine, then you're successful. Everything else is just theoretical.

 

[infinite012]

Originally posted by: leeperpsu
hey thugsrook,

i must know something to be getting succesful overclocks, and having a stable computer...i must know something seeing that i'm an electrical engineer. just because i think prime95 is a joke doesn't mean i know nothing. i think you just made everyones "I'm ignorant" list.

prime 95 can miss some things in the system, but overall it is a very accurate measurement of stability. If you can't pass it for at least 6 hours, your overclock is no good.

 

[INemtsev]

I would recommend OCZ DDr400 mine 2500 overclocks to 2.2 GHZ runs at 40C idle and 46C during playing Warcraft III

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: leeperpsu
personally i wouldn't worry about it at all...

first i'd uninstall prime95 and then crush the cd or floppy you saved it to.
you wanna test an overclock...

boots into windows...cool
loop 3dmark2001se...cool
loop3dmark03...cool
sisoft sandra max3 burn in test...cool

if you lasts thru all that your totally fine!!!!

Prime95 is highly regarded due to high accuracy. Even if there's one byte of an error, it'll pounce on it.
Hence it crashes on relatively stable systems.

I rather have a system that made no errors within Prime95 and slightly slower than one that makes a few and if im unlucky, could spring up when I least expect it.

 

[GooGooCluster]

thought that I would lay out my experience with similar problems on my bro in laws computer we built for him.
he purchased
barton 2500
a7n8x delux
corsair 512 LLpt
WD800JB
heatsink
the rest came from his old computer

So heres what happened. We ran prime with his first setup, crashed every time (stock just like yours) tried the cpu in mine which is the same computer as his bascially. and it ran prime longer but still crashed. after testing his ram. we RMAed his processor. Thought the problems whould be gone. But his system was still unstable we thought we would try to reinstall windows. did not work so we formated. Well the format time for an 80gb hard drive is around 30-40 mins he left it on for 12 hours and it was at 4%! After convince him that his hard drive was bad. we had it RMAed and now every runs fine. Now if it was the refomat of windows. that fixed it not sure. But I think it was the hard drive all along.

Some times computers can just be stupid and crash when they want to crash. I have been though many upgrades and hardware does cause problems. Even had an old sound card give me greif. Good luck!

I second checking your Ram, I would try to test all the things that are easyest to replace first. How is your power supply I have heard that causes problems too. At least in my case it did.

 

[Mikki]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK

Originally posted by: leeperpsu
personally i wouldn't worry about it at all...

first i'd uninstall prime95 and then crush the cd or floppy you saved it to.
you wanna test an overclock...

boots into windows...cool
loop 3dmark2001se...cool
loop3dmark03...cool
sisoft sandra max3 burn in test...cool

if you lasts thru all that your totally fine!!!!

LMAO!

i think you just made everyones "i know nothing" list!!!!

Yep, he definitely made my list...

 

[leeperpsu]

yep laugh all you want....i know whos got the kick ass rig and whos got their oc'ing abilities down!....ME

 

[NesuD]

just for the heck of it try this if you haven't already. set the T(ras) setting in the memory timings to say 11 and then see if it settles down. I have actually had that help misbehaving ram in Nforce2 boards. Whats even better is that for some reason the memory parformance increases with T(ras) at 11 vs the modules setting of 6 on my board.
Leeperspsu: we are all very impressed with your overclock which is stable enough for you but using your standards wouldn't pass our smelltest around here. Thugs is a very accomplished overclocker and well known in these parts. You on the other hand are a relatively unknown quantity to us here and I must say a somewhat annoying one. Believe me arrogant bragging will not win you any admirers here in will definatley not impress anyone so why don't you just relax. You are looking kinda foolish with your posts.

 

[Bad Dude]

Check to see if you have proper cooling the motherboard's chipset. This can cause your errors too as it did with mine.