Price drop on OEM 2500+ Athlon Barton at Newegg - $79

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rcraig

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Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon: and so it begins... :)

Whenever I hear that phrase it reminds me of Koch on B5.

I am also looking to upgrade my 1600+ to a 333 Barton. This will make spending money easier but which to buy. Any other input on the MP Barton?

RCraig
 

BadNomad

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I gotta get one of these for my Biostar M7NCP Pro NFII board set up. Running a XP1700 cranked up. But this will give me a chance to test out the board's 400Mhz front side bus. Sweet !!

THX!
 

rancherlee

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I've got a Mobile Barton 2400+ in my system. I have an old Asus Nforce 1 board (A7N-266C) which officially doesn't support the Mobile chips OR a barton. Your Board HAS to have multiplier and FSB controls to use this chip, it boots up as a 6x100 (600mhz) or 6x133 chip (800mhz) and you need to change the multipliers and fsb to get your desired clock. My motherboard ran out of Multipliers and FSB adjustment @ 12.5x181 so I'mm stuck with 2266mhz w/1.65v with this chip BUT its prime stable for 24+ hours at that speed and voltage.
 

WallyKid

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I am having a K7V Dragon Plus with the KT 266A northbridge, it is showing 2100+ as the most i can do, so does that mean i will not be able to use 2500+barton at all or its just that the company will not recommend it?
 

GoatHerderEd

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Originally posted by: WallyKid
I am having a K7V Dragon Plus with the KT 266A northbridge, it is showing 2100+ as the most i can do, so does that mean i will not be able to use 2500+barton at all or its just that the company will not recommend it?

if your using a kt266a, its time to get a new MB. Nforce 2 40 ultras are awasome and amazingly cheap!
 

mcurole

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I like the sound of that mobile barton 2400. What would be an inexpensive board that has good 5.1 audio, fsb, voltage and multiplier adjustments? I was thinking of getting an MSI K7N2 Delta L or maybe even the K7N2GM-L for about $70. Wouldn't I get almost the same performance running the mobile barton 2400 (266 mhz) at 333mhz as the regular barton 2500 ( 333mhz) running at 400 mhz. I already have two sticks of pc2700 ram that was free after coupon and rebate at OM. Considering that 2 sticks of 400 mhz ram costs as much as the chip or the MB wouldn't this be a good way to " GO FAST, CHEAP!" Can i run a dual channel motherboard at 333mhz dual channel?
 

Night201

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I just bought 2 2500+ retail chips for 2 systems I put together for some people. They are great!
 

Drizzy

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Anyone have a recommendation for a good value (cheap but runs fast) mobo to go with the Barton 2500+?
 

wicktron

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Originally posted by: mcurole
I like the sound of that mobile barton 2400. What would be an inexpensive board that has good 5.1 audio, fsb, voltage and multiplier adjustments? I was thinking of getting an MSI K7N2 Delta L or maybe even the K7N2GM-L for about $70. Wouldn't I get almost the same performance running the mobile barton 2400 (266 mhz) at 333mhz as the regular barton 2500 ( 333mhz) running at 400 mhz. I already have two sticks of pc2700 ram that was free after coupon and rebate at OM. Considering that 2 sticks of 400 mhz ram costs as much as the chip or the MB wouldn't this be a good way to " GO FAST, CHEAP!" Can i run a dual channel motherboard at 333mhz dual channel?

Given the same clock speed and FSB, they will perform EXACTLY the same.
 

kenrippy

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Originally posted by: Drizzy
Anyone have a recommendation for a good value (cheap but runs fast) mobo to go with the Barton 2500+?


get a shuttle an35n ultra. it's a dual channel board with 5.1 audio onboard. they're very stable and give you decent vcore options for overclocking goodness. i've built a few rigs with these and they're well worth the $60-65!

shuttle an35n ultra
 

Drizzy

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Thanks kenrippy. I am actually trying to decide between that one and the ABIT NF7-S. The ABIT is about $30 more but people have told me its worth the price difference...
 

kenrippy

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Originally posted by: Drizzy
Thanks kenrippy. I am actually trying to decide between that one and the ABIT NF7-S. The ABIT is about $30 more but people have told me its worth the price difference...
I have the NF7-S rev.2.0 in my personal system. It's great for overclocking purposes, but they are a little touchy if you push it too far. As a lot of NF7 owners will tell you, I have killed a bios chip already by pushing the FSB too far. The soundstorm is very good IMO. I would not buy another ABIT real soon though due to the bios faults. My system is stable at these specs though:

barton 2500 @ 2.42ghz (220x11) 2.0 vcore
2x512 corsair xms pc3500 (2-2-2-11) 2.9v
enermax 470w psu <---this really helps


 

gunblade

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Originally posted by: snowpeas
cool thanks. Wow seems pretty hard stuff to do. I wouldn't call myself a newbie newbie, I made a modchip for xbox, soldered it by myself.

Oh actually I am interested in study the Xbox too. What do you use to make the modchip? just a normal preprogrammed rom, or something need more extensive fabrication?

How much time you spend in study the technical details like tapping the data from the xbox bus? How do you hack the bus to route the starting address to your own ROM address?

I read that they have certain encoding on the bios and store the initialization data in the Nvidia MCP chips itself.
 

mydangpleeze

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i was really considering getting a barton but i'm not sure if i will actually notice any gains over my current setup. i'm running an 1800xp tbred @ 2.37ghz (215fsb x 11) on my epox 8rda+. now assuming "most" bartons will do 200fsb x 11, would it be a noticeable upgrade compared to my current setup?
 

stech4u

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mydangpleeze, i'm at 11x200, 2206Mhz 2500@3200 w/ TT silent boost & as3... can i go further?... possibly just need time... but i'm definetly fine w/ what i have considering i went froma p3-500 396mb ram (now 1gb buffalo tech pc3200 @ 11-3-3-2 2.75v)

might as well up more ram for you imo
 

mydangpleeze

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i just got some twinmos pc 3200.....so as of now, i'm running 2 x 256mb sticks in dual channel mode. that made a big difference over just running 256....win xp is such a mem hog. i guess i'll just hold off on the barton until it drops more....i just have the upgrade itches once in a while. ;)
 

DarkNephree

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Originally posted by: faZZter
Originally posted by: snowpeas
this is a little bit off topic, but im thinking of buying a new pc now. I saw lots of review said that this chip can easily OC'd to 3200+ and its to do so you have to have the multiplier unlocked. How would i do that? Is it ez? If im not mistaken, mutiplier has to do w/ the mobo no?

I'd go read up on overclocking in general before you attempt to unlock a chip......seeing as you don't understand the multiplier settings yet. (this is not intended as an insult in any way!) But yes, the multiplier would be a setting in your BIOS.

Just search on google for unlocking the 2500.



If your lazy

Instead of having to search for an unlocked Barton, just get pc3200 ram w/ a CAS latency of 2.5 or less (I suggest Corsair or Geil). This way you'll eliminate the hastle of hunting down an unlocked Barton as well as not having to flash BIOS for multiplier settings.


 

howdyduty

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mydangpleeze: You would likely not see improvement with Barton at 2.2ghz over your 2.37ghz at 213fsb. You might even see a decrease.
 

Doomguy

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Last Retail CPU I bought from Googlegear was OLD, compared to the Retail CPU my friend got my from newegg. The 2500+ I got wont overclock more than 10mhz FSB at default voltage, whereas his will go to 3200+.
 

UNCjigga

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Egad!!! The Thortons have disappeared from Newegg!!! Oh well, I'm getting a Mobile Barton 2400+ instead! :)