Price cuts for AMD 7XXX cards? Not yet.

[thilanliyan]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/video/hd-7970-price-cuts-dont-count-on-it/

 

[Ieat]

Hey, if AMD thinks they can meet sales targets at those prices then more power to them. Personally, I would wait for a gtx 680 to come in if I didn't already have one. Ain'ts no way I'm paying more for less.

 

[Piano Man]

Hey, if AMD thinks they can meet sales targets at those prices then more power to them. Personally, I would wait for a gtx 680 to come in if I didn't already have one. Ain'ts no way I'm paying more for less.

Pretty much.

 

[Vesku]

Supply & Demand, 28nm has a ways to go.

 

[thilanliyan]

Only thing that would push me to a 7970 is bitcoins, and to a certain extent my waterblock fitting.

 

[Lonyo]

Well from the looks of Newegg, they aren't suffering any loss in sales due to the GTX680, since there aren't any available.

If your opponent is hurting for stock, why hurt your own prices?

 

[JBT]

Interesting newegg has already had a number of cuts HIS and a Gigabyte card have both dropped about $20 to 529.

 

[tviceman]

At the $200-300 price range, there are so many more options that tend to not be clear cut insofar as which product would be the best, so waiting around for a particular graphics card in that price range probably happens way less often.

My belief, and I could be wrong since it isn't based on anything other than my own reasoning, is that when consumers are looking at spending $400+ on a graphics card, they want the best thing. And if the best thing is temporarily out of stock, the consumer is more likely to wait, at least for a little while, for the best thing to come back into stock.

 

[jacktesterson]

Nvidia's lack of Availability is what's causing the delay in a price cut, IMO.

7970 is a great card.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I got this feeling amd has this"you want it,bend on it we will show you" sorta attitude,at least fix your freaking drivers cause they are giving me a headache about now as a 7970 owner.

At least offer the common courtesy of a reach around if your gonna sell a $550 video card with crappy ass drivers and slower performance.

Before anyone gets on the bandwagon attacking me about driver support,my pc went into sleep mode and shut off my monitor when i shoved a common store bought dvd into my pc last night and hit the play button,i had to hard reboot my rig...never seen anything like it in my life.

 

[blackened23]

Nvidia's lack of Availability is what's causing the delay in a price cut, IMO.

7970 is a great card.

Could be that 28nm wafer prices are just high and the cards cost a lot to make. I agree that AMD needs to lower prices, 100$+ would be nice. Nvidia made a graph showing 28nm wafer prices and they are far more expensive than 40nm was....shrug

 

[3DVagabond]

Could be that 28nm wafer prices are just high and the cards cost a lot to make. I agree that AMD needs to lower prices, 100$+ would be nice. Nvidia made a graph showing 28nm wafer prices and they are far more expensive than 40nm was....shrug

That graph, if it's the same one I saw, was dated 2006. That was projected costs. It might be better or worse than the graph. We have no way of knowing for sure. Unless you have a current price projection?

 

[blackened23]

Anyway, in his words 20nm "is worthless" because the cost is in the stratosphere. Then he said he wants to make chips at intel which will never happen because he pissed in their cornflakes one too many times.

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...y-with-tsmc-claims-22nm-essentially-worthless

They had a presentation lats November about this, but the slide they used was also used in 2006. I think they've complained about this for a while...Anyway, speculation on my part. Probably a combination of this, nvidias supply constraint, or other factors. They still need to lower prices, though

 

[Tsaar]

I see the 580s down to about $400 now. Really been thinking about making the jump on one.

The 580 3gb is still too close to $500 for me to look at.

Edit: I am still running a 260c216, but I have the burning itch so bad to build NOW.

 

[blackened23]

I see the 580s down to about $400 now. Really been thinking about making the jump on one.

The 580 3gb is still too close to $500 for me to look at.

Edit: I am still running a 260c216, but I have the burning itch so bad to build NOW.

I've been seeing lots of 580s in the 380$ range, but you have to catch it on sale at the right time. I don't believe its the official MSRP yet, I could be wrong.

 

[Tsaar]

I've been seeing lots of 580s in the 380$ range, but you have to catch it on sale at the right time. I don't believe its the official MSRP yet, I could be wrong.

Yeah, my main concern though is the fact that I will also be picking up the Apple display which runs at 1440p. I am a 3 year cycle upgrader, and I am not sure if the 1.5 GB VRAM can last for the next 3 years.

 

[3DVagabond]

I see the 580s down to about $400 now. Really been thinking about making the jump on one.

The 580 3gb is still too close to $500 for me to look at.

Edit: I am still running a 260c216, but I have the burning itch so bad to build NOW.

The 7870 is a better card for less, as far as gaming goes.

 

[Tsaar]

The 7870 is a better card for less, as far as gaming goes.

I have been brand loyal for years to EVGA...having trouble thinking about moving away from them haha.

 

[Mopetar]

Seems like nVidia should have started the 680 at $600, or at least $550. Perhaps the availability will pick up, but it looks like they've underpriced it and can't meet demand.

 

[Snowshredder102]

Seems like nVidia should have started the 680 at $600, or at least $550. Perhaps the availability will pick up, but it looks like they've underpriced it and can't meet demand.

According to reports their yields have been terrible, even at $600 they would be sold out. I'm totally fine with them not inflating the prices.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

The 7870 is a better card for less, as far as gaming goes.

no its not

if you care about efficiency and the overall package the 7870 is definitely better, but for when considering gaming performance only the 580 is easily the faster card, it might not be by much, but it is.

that being said I'd likely recommend the 7870 in most cases, but still, no reason to skew the truth

 

[azeem40]

I would take the lower cost and power consumption anyday over performance (within performance difference limits, of course).

 

[3DVagabond]

no its not

if you care about efficiency and the overall package the 7870 is definitely better, but for when considering gaming performance only the 580 is easily the faster card, it might not be by much, but it is.

that being said I'd likely recommend the 7870 in most cases, but still, no reason to skew the truth

I said in gaming because of CUDA and graphics compute in general from nVidia giving the 580 the advantage there.

Better can be for a lot of reasons. I didn't say anything about which card was faster. Don't change what I said and then accuse me of lying. I don't appreciate it. As far as faster goes, it depends on what reviews you read.

 

[blastingcap]

Anyway, in his words 20nm "is worthless" because the cost is in the stratosphere. Then he said he wants to make chips at intel which will never happen because he pissed in their cornflakes one too many times.

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...y-with-tsmc-claims-22nm-essentially-worthless

They had a presentation lats November about this, but the slide they used was also used in 2006. I think they've complained about this for a while...Anyway, speculation on my part. Probably a combination of this, nvidias supply constraint, or other factors. They still need to lower prices, though

What would the price/perf of Kepler be, if Intel made it instead of TSMC?

 

[Haserath]

What would the price/perf of Kepler be, if Intel made it instead of TSMC?

Who knows, Nvidia would be so much faster they could charge for pixie dust if they wanted.