Preview: 2003 Mazda6 **Update** Mazda 6 MPS AWD info added

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
I don't see success in this car's future.... ~200 hp is not enough anymore with Nissan's 255 and Honda's 240hp!

80% of Camrys, Altima, and Accords sold are 4-bangers. So what's your point?

Yep, not to mention the fact that his numbers are off.

The Mazda6 V6 has 220hp and the Altima has 240hp, not 255 (he must be thinking of the Maxima - different price class).

Obviously the people in Europe and Japan don't give a sh*t about a piddly 20hp. Intitial unit sales show it's selling 40% faster than expected.

 

[NFS4]

Mazda6 MPS concept features more aggressive-look, all-wheel drive


DROOOL

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Mazda6 MPS concept features more aggressive-look, all-wheel drive

DROOOL

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
*spooooooooooooge*

Yes, I want to do naughty naughty things to that car.

 

[vi edit]

I'm still curious about the curb weight. It says 2900 pounds for the V6! The I4 might be able to shave off another 100 pounds in engine weight and accessories/options, putting it down to 2800 pounds. How does this compare to a Camry, Accord, or Altima with a four cylinder? I know the altima is a porker, but how about the other two? It's 4 cylinder is already putting out roughly the same power, being a couple hundred pounds lighter is sure to help it feel quicker too.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'm still curious about the curb weight. It says 2900 pounds for the V6! The I4 might be able to shave off another 100 pounds in engine weight and accessories/options, putting it down to 2800 pounds. How does this compare to a Camry, Accord, or Altima with a four cylinder? I know the altima is a porker, but how about the other two? It's 4 cylinder is already putting out roughly the same power, being a couple hundred pounds lighter is sure to help it feel quicker too.

According to Edmunds, a 4-cylinder Accord EX weighs 3109 lb, a 4-cylinder Camry LE weighs 3086 lb, and a 4-cylinder Altima SL weighs 3076 lb. I guess the Altima is no more of a "porker" than its competition, and the Mazda6 is the lightest of the bunch.

 

[prontospyder]

The Mazda6 V6 has 220hp and the Altima has 240hp, not 255 (he must be thinking of the Maxima - different price class).

Actually, the '03 Altima 3.5SE has 245hp.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: prontospyder

The Mazda6 V6 has 220hp and the Altima has 240hp, not 255 (he must be thinking of the Maxima - different price class).

Actually, the '03 Altima 3.5SE has 245hp.

Oops, you're right, though I doubt there'll be any appreciable difference compared to last year's model. 5hp isn't much, even on paper.

 

[csiro]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
How come they compare the Mazda 6 to the BMw 3-Series...aren't they in different classes?

Well Car and Driver labelled Mazda, the japanese version of BMW since mazdas tend to have excellent handling cars..

 

[Red Dawn]

I'd rather have one of these any day of the week

 

[Ne0]

Looks Great

 

[Kelvrick]

Where's the AWD info? MMM.... AWD....

<== monkey dance

EDIT: N/m, see the link.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'd rather have one of these any day of the week

Are you sure you wouldn't rather have an Escalade?

 

[mithrandir2001]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'm still curious about the curb weight. It says 2900 pounds for the V6! The I4 might be able to shave off another 100 pounds in engine weight and accessories/options, putting it down to 2800 pounds. How does this compare to a Camry, Accord, or Altima with a four cylinder? I know the altima is a porker, but how about the other two? It's 4 cylinder is already putting out roughly the same power, being a couple hundred pounds lighter is sure to help it feel quicker too.

That has to be a misprint. A midsize car with a 3.0L V6 weighing 2900 pounds? Nope. Consider that my 2.5L V6 Ford Contour weighed 2750 pounds and it was classified as a compact. My 2001 2.3L I-4 Accord weighs about 3050 and Honda makes some of the lightest cars around. The 2900 pound figure is probably for the stripped 4 cylinder variant of the Mazda 6. The loaded V6 model will probably tip the scales at 3200-3300. The wagon may end up near 3400.

 

[Thegonagle]

When the AWD wagon arrives, it's mine.

 

[Ultima]

It has AWD too? That'd be kickass. Way too many FWD "sport" coupes out there these days. Now only if it had four-wheel steering too so it could take those curves at twice the speed

 

[smp]

4 banger is available in manual
V6 is not


FVCKING STUPID
and the camry and the accord are the same
boooooooooooo

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: smp
4 banger is available in manual
V6 is not

FVCKING STUPID
and the camry and the accord are the same
boooooooooooo

Where'd you read that? The V6 will be available in a 5 speed automatic and manual.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: smp
4 banger is available in manual
V6 is not


FVCKING STUPID
and the camry and the accord are the same
boooooooooooo

Ummm, you shouldn't be calling ANYBODY stupid

The Mazda 6 with the V6 engine can be had with a 5-speed manual transmission.

 

[TripleJ]

I've been a Mazda fan since a little tacka(like 5 ). Glad they're back with some great designs

Test drove one about 2 weeks ago. Very nice drive. Zoom-zoom!

 

[Parrotheader]

Every time I get myself convinced that a 4-door Toyota Tacoma will be my next vehicle, something has to keep trying to change my focus. I REALLY want a pickup since I always find myself having to borrow my dad's truck for various tasks. But I've loved the looks of this car ever since I saw it and given my daily commute I'd quickly realize the savings in mileage. And just when I'd about ruled a passenger car out and got my mind firmly set on the Tacoma, now I have to see this base price

That price has GOT to be on the low side. If it's not, then that'll be a potentially great deal. Granted, I'd probably have to put almost $3,000 worth of options into it to get it where I want, but even then it would be a fantastic bargain compared to what a new 4-door Tacoma would cost with a V6 (and you can't find used since they're only a couple years old and nobody's selling them :| ) But comparing this price to the Tacoma I could theoretically buy a fully-equipped Mazda 6 and still have enough left over to go out and buy an old early 90s pickup which I could then list on insurance as my primary vehicle to save on insurance. Oh the wheels are turning in my head now.

 

[Parrotheader]

One other thing I noticed when browsing through Mazda's web site a few minutes ago. On the site, they show both the 4-cylinder and the 6-cylinder as only needing regular unleaded fuel. If that's accurate then that's kind of refreshing since it seems like most 6-cylinders these days tend to require premium fuel. I think the Accord's V6 is the only major direct competitor that doesn't require premium fuel if I'm remembering correctly. I'm sure there's a couple others, but of the big boys (Accord, Camry and Altima) I think it's the only one.