Pretty interesting lock design.

[dennilfloss]

The bar can probably still be cut but at least this makes it a bit harder for thieves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JpfkGAuhV8

 

[DaTT]

That is pretty cool. What was the price tag?

 

[Rakehellion]

I skimmed through the video and didn't understand the mechanism. Is there a website?

It looked overly complex with a key you wouldn't want to carry around with you. Also, most burglars don't pick locks.

 

[takeru]

*rotates core, sees empty hole where key supposed to go.
*fills core with crazy glue
*rotates core back to closed position
*profit

 

[velillen]

I skimmed through the video and didn't understand the mechanism. Is there a website?

It looked overly complex with a key you wouldn't want to carry around with you. Also, most burglars don't pick locks.

The mechanism is just a fancy....setup. Put out the "chamber". Twist handle to expose key slot. Slide key into hole. Turn the handle so key lines up with the "pins" (not sure what its actually called...basically lines it up like a regular door lock). Push the "chamber" in which in turn inserts key into the "pins". Turn portion of handle to "turn" the key and unlock/lock it.

Really it seems like it fixes a problem that isnt really much of a problem (lockpicking). Looks not different than the bike locks with 1/4" steel or so and any thief is going ot go destructive to get in and out asap.

 

[TridenT]

Seems nice, but I don't most thieves pick locks. They use ways of cheating devices that are not secure and have a known vulnerability. When that fails, they use bolt cutters or saws.

And unless this comes in a 1" U-Lock version, it's going to have issues. (And the next issue it will have is that it's monstrously heavy)

 

[Howard]

The mechanism is just a fancy....setup. Put out the "chamber". Twist handle to expose key slot. Slide key into hole. Turn the handle so key lines up with the "pins" (not sure what its actually called...basically lines it up like a regular door lock). Push the "chamber" in which in turn inserts key into the "pins". Turn portion of handle to "turn" the key and unlock/lock it.

Really it seems like it fixes a problem that isnt really much of a problem (lockpicking). Looks not different than the bike locks with 1/4" steel or so and any thief is going ot go destructive to get in and out asap.

Lock picking is an issue where destructive opening is extremely unlikely.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Fill key chamber with liquid nitrogen.
Rotate and wait 15 seconds.
Smack with hammer.
Profit

 

[The Boston Dangler]

a can of air/duster will still make short work of that pretty, expensive, complicated toy. it looks like the cost might approach that of the bike, and it needs cheapo plastic caps to protect the anodized parts

i can't tell you how many times i've seen examples like the above. at least this one still has some hardware left on the frame.

 

[TridenT]

a can of air/duster will still make short work of that pretty, expensive, complicated toy. it looks like the cost might approach that of the bike, and it needs cheapo plastic caps to protect the anodized parts

i can't tell you how many times i've seen examples like the above. at least this one still has some hardware left on the frame.

Yeah, I've been watching some videos about locks for bikes and motorcycles recently and really been thinking it through...

I don't think I am ever going to lock my next bike up on the street. (My last one was stolen and on the street) Always going to keep it within sight or in a truly secure location.

 

[Rakehellion]

Seems nice, but I don't most thieves pick locks. They use ways of cheating devices that are not secure and have a known vulnerability. When that fails, they use bolt cutters or saws.

Pretty much.

And that thing isn't a key, it's a keychain. No way I'd carry that around with all the other keys I have on me.

 

[Ichinisan]

Cool. I wonder how they get it assembled in the factory? Surely one could find a simple weakness if that was known...

 

[Ichinisan]

The mechanism is just a fancy....setup. Put out the "chamber". Twist handle to expose key slot. Slide key into hole. Turn the handle so key lines up with the "pins" (not sure what its actually called...basically lines it up like a regular door lock). Push the "chamber" in which in turn inserts key into the "pins". Turn portion of handle to "turn" the key and unlock/lock it.

Tumblers.

Really it seems like it fixes a problem that isnt really much of a problem (lockpicking). Looks not different than the bike locks with 1/4" steel or so and any thief is going ot go destructive to get in and out asap.

It might be used for other things than bicycles. Like drug dealer prisoners in your basement.

 

[Rakehellion]

Cool. I wonder how they get it assembled in the factory? Surely one could find a simple weakness if that was known...

And they'd fix the weakness.

 

[Lean L]

Isn't that really missing the point?

Aren't most u lock thefts just cutting the lock with a bolt cutter? It takes like 10 seconds for two cuts and you can bolt right away. Who's sitting there picking locks?

 

[Ichinisan]

And they'd fix the weakness.

If the key isn't somehow required during final assembly, then you could just disassemble it to access the key slot and tumblers. Maybe leave no signs of tampering.

 

[SKORPI0]

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[gorcorps]

I'm thinking of a way to build a device similar to this that will bolt over a regular lock and use regular keys. As long as people don't realize thieves don't pick locks anymore I'll make millions

 

[nageov3t]

a can of air/duster will still make short work of that pretty, expensive, complicated toy. it looks like the cost might approach that of the bike, and it needs cheapo plastic caps to protect the anodized parts

i can't tell you how many times i've seen examples like the above. at least this one still has some hardware left on the frame.

that's just bad locking.

back when I rode a bike on a regular basis, I used 3 locks.

one basically permanent lock to attach the seat to the frame
one lock to attach the back wheel to the frame
and another that goes through the frame + front wheel to lock up to the bike rack

 

[Markbnj]

Very clever design, but it seems like a massive pain in the ass. I guess if you regularly leave your bike in a vulnerable place it would be worth it.

 

[Greenman]

Cordless grinders have rendered locks pretty much useless.

 

[Markbnj]

Cordless grinders have rendered locks pretty much useless.

Someone who is good with a pick can do it in public, and it really just looks like they are fumbling with the key. In a city people probably wouldn't give them a second look. Whipping out a grinder and getting to work is going to be somewhat more noticeable.

 

[bradley]

Cordless grinders have made it pretty impossible to protect your bike. We're talking less than 30 seconds for a complete cut.

I much rather have thieves steal the bike whole and then recover it using a bike GPS. I'm going to eventually store a GPS inside the frame. That's the way the world is heading.

 

[TridenT]

Cordless grinders have made it pretty impossible to protect your bike. We're talking less than 30 seconds for a complete cut.

I much rather have thieves steal the bike whole and then recover it using a bike GPS. I'm going to eventually store a GPS inside the frame. That's the way the world is heading.

The only problem is that you need to change/recharge the batteries on that GPS thing all the time... (It's also stupid expensive)

 

[shortylickens]

Lockpick