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Pretty distastful thing a professor said - what do you think?

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Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
In my MBA - a leadership class - I have a feminist professor - she is very "men hold the women down" type. She just said "Some of you will have secretaries when you finish this program - and SOME may even be MEN!"

I thought that was pretty out of line - what do you guys think?
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Do you realize right before you were born that women were SERIOUSLY kept under a glass ceiling and completely abused and degraded in the workplace. This was the norm. In fact, women were just beginning to be tolerated in the workplace to begin with. Discrimination is subtle now, and done in a passive way. But it's still there.

She's right. She's pissed. But she's not expressing herself very well. Ragging to your class is like people blaming the current generation for previous generation's crimes.

I'm not really making excuses for her, but at least giving you some food for thought on WHY she might act the way she does.
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acceptance of the glass ceiling is one thing - frequently making a point to reference it is what perpetuates it.

Related/Unrelated - see Al Sharpton - does he promote racism or help mitigate racism?
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No, it doesn't. Not talking about it or pretending it doesn't exist would do more to perpetuate it than talking about it.

And, yes, your Al Sharpton reference is completely unrelated.
 
I think you are too uptight, which is pretty much the consensus looking from the responses of this thread.

Have you ever thought maybe it is you that is the sensitive male chauvinist?
 
Originally posted by: rsd
Well this is the final nail in the coffin that proves anyone can get into an MBA program...
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There is a HUGE difference between getting an MBA from University of Phoenix and getting one from Northwestern.
 
Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
Equality is scary ain't it. Too bad we aren't even close.
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Equality isn't scary. The problem is when you get these crazy feminists that bastardized the term and where equality now means [for them] women should be more equal than men.
 
"Some of you will have secretaries when you finish this program - and SOME may even be MEN!"
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Maybe she meant that some of the students currently in female form will undergo gender reassignment?
 
nobody has secretaries anymore, they are personal assistants and you have to be at least VP level to have one, middle managers don't have them anymore

who cares which sex they are , that was just her code word for "i am undressing you with my eyes"
 
Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
In my MBA - a leadership class - I have a feminist professor - she is very "men hold the women down" type. She just said "Some of you will have secretaries when you finish this program - and SOME may even be MEN!"

I thought that was pretty out of line - what do you guys think?
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she meant that we going backwards, and the men arent letting their women out of the kitchen. so someone has to fill the position of secretary
 
Secretaries have traditionally been women; it's the same sort of thing when people talk about nurses. Men have traditionally not been nurses.

This particular comment wasn't distasteful. If it was more like, "Some of you will have secretaries when you finish this program - a MAN, who you won't want to have sex with, so I don't even know why you testosterone-laden scumbags would even want to work for such a company with such 'backwards' policies! You make me sick," that would be distasteful.


Feminism - it's just fine. It is the idea that men and women should be given an equal playing field. Extreme feminism - the persistent, baseless belief that all men are eternally and actively engaged in keeping women oppressed. Extreme anything is usually a problem, but it's the extremists who make it onto the news for the same reason it's the crazies that get onto Jerry Springer: if it was just normal people on the news, or on Jerry Springer, no one would watch. If you want reality, step outside and get a full dose of it. People watch TV to see something other than their everyday reality.
 
Seems like she's just making a reference to the advances women have made in the corporate area in the last 20-30 years through a tongue-in-cheek comment.

So how are you interpreting the statement that makes it so offensive?
 
i had a feminist English prof in college. my advice is to just let it go. It's not that big of a deal.
 
Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
In my MBA - a leadership class - I have a feminist professor - she is very "men hold the women down" type. She just said "Some of you will have secretaries when you finish this program - and SOME may even be MEN!"
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How is that out of line? Some of them might have testicles.
 
Just for shits, a guy I know works as a "Secretary" at a semi-local "hometown" bank. He pulls in a ridiculous salary.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
A guy in my sociology class got docked points on a paper because he used the word "Mankind". The feminazi professor crossed out "man" and wrote in "people".
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See, THAT'S just stupid. What the OP mentioned wasn't.

Just roll your eyes and get on with your life!
 
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