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Press Release: AMD to Make Significant Corporate Announcement

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imported_Crusader

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Official Press Release

Done deal. ATI as we knew it, will no longer exist.
Its headquarters will likely now be in America with AMDs and profits will go back to the USA.

AMD needs all the help it can get in its struggle against Intel (which is even clearer now with C2Ds release), dont expect the less lucrative uber high end GPU market to continue to be ATIs sole concentration.

AMD will use/sell whatever ATI has developed on the high end so far, and then transition them to work for AMD's goals.. not ATIs former goals.
Thats the point to these buyouts.

As I told a forum member here, no executive sits around thinking "hmmm what company can we buy out to help them out.. oh yeah ATI! Lets help them defeat Nvidia!! This will please fanboy X!"
This buyout is purely for AMDs gain, and it weakens ATI as we knew it before.
NV will continue to profit off of ATIs new owner, AMD in the meanwhile. 😛

I wouldnt be surprised if Huang was all for this.
Whether people want to realize it or not, this is effectively the end of the line for ATI as we know it. AMD isnt going to devote resources to defeating Nvidia in the far less lucrative high end discrete GPU wars. They are having a helluva time with Intel alone.

They arent going to fight a war on two fronts. Intel alone is enough for anyone out there to take on (IBM.. AMD.. you name it).
Nvidia has won. And I'm sure they are/will be toasting the victory soon!
Its a good day to lean green. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Ayah
Oh wow.. What will happen to ATI GPUs?
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No one knows for sure.. but they'll prob continue to sell them as they have been. I doubt in the future though huge investments will be made in the high end GPU sector at ATI facilities.
They'll be advancing AMD goals.. since those will now be their goals. Whatever that might consist of.. probably whatever Intel looks like: good platform/chipsets with decent integrated GPUs. Lots of useful technology in store for AMD.

This doesnt necessarily mean the end to the NV/AMD partnership either. AMD still needs NV in the meanwhile as they create a great enthusiast motherboard chipset.

And NV + the new AMD would be one MEAN combo if they continue to partner up.
 
Originally posted by: Crusader
Originally posted by: Ayah
Oh wow.. What will happen to ATI GPUs?
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No one knows for sure.. but they'll prob continue to sell them as they have been. I doubt in the future though huge investments will be made in the high end GPU sector at ATI facilities.
They'll be advancing AMD goals.. since those will now be their goals. Whatever that might consist of.. probably whatever Intel looks like: good platform/chipsets with decent integrated GPUs. Lots of useful technology in store for AMD.

This doesnt necessarily mean the end to the NV/AMD partnership either. AMD still needs NV in the meanwhile as they create a great enthusiast motherboard chipset.

And NV + the new AMD would be one MEAN combo if they continue to partner up.
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hahaha yeah probably ati will leave the highend gpu market. You say noone knows, i remember when theinquirer gave credit to the ati amd merge rumour and ppl laught at it (although i doubt they were the original source) anyway IT IS WELL KNOWN WHICH ARE THE REASONS AND PURPOUSES OF THIS MERGE, if you read the latest refresh by the inquirer on this topic you will discover that the new fab of amd built in dresden and the future fab on new york both are misteriously designed so they can produce gpu chips.

Remember when you read from time to time about ati and nvidia having problems with tmsc (got right:confused😉 and the other taiwanesse chip manufacturer (dont remember its name) getting their parts done, well Ati has found the answer to this problem merging with amd they will have most part ot its chips production secured thank to amd new fabs.

 
humanentity- this isnt a merger. ATI didnt find any solution to a problem. They are being taken over. Dead. Like 3dfx.
Sure they will still sell high end GPUs for a while, but ATI is now in AMD's ballpark.

AMD cares about where the money is: selling integrated GPUs, chipsets.. platforms, with their CPUs.
They wont dump millions into a silly high end GPU design in the future, but rather platforms/CPUs.

Heck, fighting Intel alone on the platform/CPU market will be plenty to take on.
A two front war against NV and Intel..???
That'd be a slow process to suicide.
They arent doing this to please high end GPU fanboys.
 
What would Intel do, next is what I'd like to know. Looks like AMD is going all out to counterattack its foe and this acquisition is one of the its strategic keys to strengthen the front end.
 
Originally posted by: thilan29
It'll be sad if this means no competition on the high end.
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I agree to an extent. Its nice NV won this war. But I'm a bit leery of the high end markets future, pricing, advancement ect.

I'm guessing the whole thing is about to finally slow down in the next 3 years or so from what it has been since ~'97 or so when 3dfx truley kicked this whole thing off.
NV will continue making high end cards as long as they sell. Theres still room for someone else to compete if they want to get into it.
Maybe physics is the next big battleground? Who knows. I'm excited for the future though.

WGF2.0 seems like a decent place to wind down, though. If its going to happen.
 
I don't know what you guys are smoking, but this is more bad news for Nvidia than anyone. Think about it, Nvidia has been a big supporter of AMD with for Nforce chipset/motherboard, I'm not so sure if AMD will continue to use Nvidia's chipset after this purchase. Plus, I don't see why this is the end of high end cards for ATI, I think the high end graphics card war will continue, I don't think AMD or ATI will just let Nvidia dominate that market.

The good thing this might bring is we might finally see some good intergrated graphics for AMD boards.
 
Originally posted by: RobertR1
Only a complete moronic consumer would want competition gone.....
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Only a moronic Nvidia fanboy would want competition gone. Ati gpu's arent going anywhere, and if anything, they now can use AMD fab resources that the green team does not have access to.
 
Originally posted by: RobertR1
Only a complete moronic consumer would want competition gone.....
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Well nobody ever accused nvidiots of being geniuses. That said, even Wreckage realized this is bad for consumers. If this deal has indeed been sealed it's a really sad time for us consumers. Soon ATi's top engineers will be relegated to other projects and ATi will be a former shell of itself. Hopefully ATi's top engineers decide to leave the company altogether and move over to Matrox or some other company and start building a new video card giant from scratch, I wouldn't mind seeing that.
 
Chipset business doesn't make big or any money, chipsets are cheap and everybody makes them. nVIDIA was more doing a favor to AMD, and then to tself to provide more space for selling their GPUs. Beside, nVIDIA chipsets weretoo expensive for mainstream computer corporations to incorporate them into their desktops.

All they need is a good SLI C2D chipset right now, it is "in" and it is gonna be in next yr or so.
 
Originally posted by: RobertR1
Only a complete moronic consumer would want competition gone.....
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Takes RobertR1 to the side and whispers, "Then that must mean he's not a regular consumer...."

Really Crusader, do we need two threads talking about the same thing? Or did you make this one so that you could be labeled as the OP instead of the derailing troll?

I've also seen that your signature has changed. Interesting. For a patriotic American, you seem to be giving a reference to a George Lucas critque of Germany's imperialistic practices of WWII. Weren't we fighting the Nazis?

As far as the merger goes, who knows what will happen. If ATI goes, they go. I have been pleased with them. Glad they were there to offer something different than what Nvidia had. My only question is, will the R600 probably be the last high end GPU we see from ATI? Will there even be a refresh of it in ATI's name?
 
Originally posted by: AzNpXdD913
I don't know what you guys are smoking, but this is more bad news for Nvidia than anyone. Think about it, Nvidia has been a big supporter of AMD with for Nforce chipset/motherboard, I'm not so sure if AMD will continue to use Nvidia's chipset after this purchase. Plus, I don't see why this is the end of high end cards for ATI, I think the high end graphics card war will continue, I don't think AMD or ATI will just let Nvidia dominate that market.

The good thing this might bring is we might finally see some good intergrated graphics for AMD boards.
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There is no more ATI. Quit talking like what ATI wanted done to the market is in AMDs vested interests.

Its going to take a while for people to readjust to this major market shift, I understand.
But what WAS ATI is NOW- AMD. Regardless if the ATI brand is around or not.

ATI will now serve AMD. As the former ATI is now a part of AMDs ambitions.

This isnt to boost ATI. That would be ATI buying out AMD.

"I don't think AMD or ATI will just let Nvidia dominate that market. "

Theres not nearly the money to be gained by dominating the market Intel holds, than the niche high end market ATI/NV were fighting for.

Integrated GPUs on AMD chipsets is where its at, thats INTELS speciality.

Intel could have easily competed with ATI/NV all these years on the high end GPUs.. why didnt they?
They are PLENTY happy with their integrated GPU marketshare from their platform sales 😉
 
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: RobertR1
Only a complete moronic consumer would want competition gone.....
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Only a moronic Nvidia fanboy would want competition gone. Ati gpu's arent going anywhere, and if anything, they now can use AMD fab resources that the green team does not have access to.
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Um, i dont think so. Those are they to pump up AMDs A64 production. I dont think they want to revert some of their resources for the GPU market, but rather focus on their meat grinder against intel.

I also think AMD wont hurt relationships with NV. Both companies helped each other's reputation in the CPU/Chipset buisness.

What im trying to say is, AMD has both ATi and NV under their wings. Both ATi and NV produce better chipsets than intel in terms of features. Not to mention IGPs from both firms are much better than intel's current solution.

But im sure R600 is still going to be released along with R570/560.
 
There's still a good chance ATi or AMD's shareholders won't approve of the merger and nothing will come of this deal. I'm still betting that the deal won't go through.
 
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
There's still a good chance ATi or AMD's shareholders won't approve of the merger and nothing will come of this deal. I'm still betting that the deal won't go through.
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Fingers Crossed. AMD cant do this just so that it can somehow beat intel.
 
No this isn't a good thing, we need ATI concentration of their efforts on the high end discrete desktop GPU market, without them Nvidia will have largely no incentive to inovate and push performance levels higher.

Hopefully this merger doesn't go through.
 
Dont forget that any merger would also have to be approved by the feds.

And in all reality I can immagine the EU doing something here. AMD has lots of EU interestes.
 
It would be really sad if SLi NOR Crossfire worked on intel boards. Not to mention that ATi will stop making chipsets for intel, and im sure about Nvidia working more closely with AMD.

Core2 Duo looks less exciting.. Maybe this is the reason of the ATi/AMD merger. A real nasty trick up AMD's sleeve.
 
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