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Presidential Debate Round 1 Mccain V Obama

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Originally posted by: Vic
Let's all keep in mind that foreign policy is McCain's strong point. And realistically his only strong point. So the onus is on him to win decisively here to make up for his weaknesses on domestic policy and the economy. So if it's draw here, or even close, then McCain loses overall.
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true, but he has has been knee deep in the worst 8 years of FP of my lifetime.
 
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Lame debate. Way too tame.

Both of these candidates seem like they are exactly the same based off this debate.
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tame? it was practically fight club compared to '04. lol.
 
I don't see any clear victor. I expected Obama to mop the old guy up but McCain did much better than I expected, and Obama didn't do near as well as I thought he would. I would guess I give McCain the win because Obama didn't knock him out.
 
mccain starting fumbling around some of the iran stuff, but would say he had a better showing overall.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Let's all keep in mind that foreign policy is McCain's strong point. And realistically his only strong point. So the onus is on him to win decisively here to make up for his weaknesses on domestic policy and the economy. So if it's draw here, or even close, then McCain loses overall.
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weirdly, I felt like McCain did better on the economic issues than foreign policy.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Lame debate. Way too tame.

Both of these candidates seem like they are exactly the same based off this debate.
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tame? it was practically fight club compared to '04. lol.
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That's a serious fo'real.
 
This was a battle of experience versus intelligence. McCain argues that experience is more valuable than intelligence. Obama argues the opposite.
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
I don't see any clear victor. I expected Obama to mop the old guy up but McCain did much better than I expected, and Obama didn't do near as well as I thought he would. I would guess I give McCain the win because Obama didn't knock him out.
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Nobody won this debate. It was a 2hr sound byte for each candidate.
 
I think it was a pretty even debate. I think McCain stumbled a few more times and that may be what people remember.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I only watched first 65 min at which point I realized I wasn't learning anything new. I want to see biden/palin.

I am an obama fan but I will not pretend he's walking over mccain like bush was trampled. I'd say they are both doing a good job and it reinforces my belief that no matter who wins this country will have a much better president in four months than it's had for the last 8. Both do know what they're talking about and neither makes me want to run in front of a truck watching them talk.
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I agree with this. If it wasn't for McCain picking that religious extremist, Palin, as his VP then I wouldn't have much of a problem with him winning. I'd still consider him 2nd best, especially as his style is just incapable of invoking leadership qualities, but he'd still beat GW by a long shot and a half.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Let's all keep in mind that foreign policy is McCain's strong point. And realistically his only strong point. So the onus is on him to win decisively here to make up for his weaknesses on domestic policy and the economy. So if it's draw here, or even close, then McCain loses overall.
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McCain loses.

 
I knew McCain would reference the torture sequence one more time before the night was through. It was the same during the RNC; you had to listen to the same story over and over again non-stop, and here he is again referencing the same point again.
 
Obama spent way too much time on the defensive. We've had a Republican President for the last 8 years and a Republican-controlled Congress for 6 of those, and yet Obama somehow still couldn't effectively stay on the offensive.

Overall I'd say McCain came out stronger in the end.
 
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Originally posted by: alchemize
I don't see any clear victor. I expected Obama to mop the old guy up but McCain did much better than I expected, and Obama didn't do near as well as I thought he would. I would guess I give McCain the win because Obama didn't knock him out.
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Nobody won this debate. It was a 2hr sound byte for each candidate.
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This
 
CBS show of hands among their broad panel of "undecided voters" gives the debate to Obama by a landslide! :thumbsup:
 
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