President Obama's 23 orders concerning firearms

[GoPackGo]

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/16/obama-to-announce-gun-control-proposals-shortly/?hpt=hp_c1

I don't see anything in the list that takes rights away from law abiding citizens.

They seem sensible to me and should have been enacted long ago.

I wish he would do more stuff like this on other issues.

 

[micrometers]

Here's the funny thing, this is exactly what the NRA calls for: enforcing existing laws more stringently.

Meaning that they're not really serious when they propose something. It's all distractions for them.

 

[dank69]

So Obama had to kill 20 kids to get enough backing for sensible reform?

 

[SheHateMe]

1. "Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system."

2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system."

3. "Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system."

4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."

5. "Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun."

6. "Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers."

7. "Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign."

8. "Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)."

9. "Issue a presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations."

10. "Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement."

11. "Nominate an ATF director."

12. "Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations."

13. "Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime."

14. "Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."

15. "Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies."

16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."

17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities."

18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."

19. "Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education."

20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover."

21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges."

22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations."

23. "Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."

Nooooo, America is doomed.


haha

 

[Incorruptible]

Ban gun magazines with more than 10 rounds, That is not sensible at all. Have these guys ever shot a gun?

 

[GoPackGo]

Ban gun magazines with more than 10 rounds, That is not sensible at all. Have these guys ever shot a gun?

I didn't see that on the list.

 

[Matt1970]

And not a single one of those would have done anything to stop any single mass shooting on record.

 

[micrometers]

And not a single one of those would have done anything to stop any single mass shooting on record.

So says you without giving any detail.

 

[Deeko]

Ban gun magazines with more than 10 rounds, That is not sensible at all. Have these guys ever shot a gun?

Where is that in the list of executive orders? Or are you unfamiliar with the concept of a threaded message board and being on topic?

 

[sunzt]

what is resource officers?

18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."

 

[Incorruptible]

I didn't see that on the list.

Its not on the list of the 23, Check the article and it clearly mentions this along with banning "assault weapons"

People should still be worried about what he tries to do because he has made his views on this issue well known. Why would he say he wants those things? Because he wants them banned

 

[momeNt]

I see they balanced the sexes and races of the children, but they did not balance the sexes of the parents, 3 mothers and 1 father? White house staff is slipping.

 

[Matt1970]

So says you without giving any detail.

Show me how any one of those would have gotten a gun out of the hands of any of the mass shooters.

 

[sunzt]

And not a single one of those would have done anything to stop any single mass shooting on record.

But may help prevent future ones...

 

[Matt1970]

But may help prevent future ones...

By not even addressing one single cause of previous mass shootings.

 

[fskimospy]

And not a single one of those would have done anything to stop any single mass shooting on record.

You fight things just to fight, don't you?

Training school staff to respond to active shooters couldn't have helped?
Improved mental health counseling couldn't have helped?
Research into the cause and prevention of gun violence can't help? (!?!?)

Ridiculous. These EOs have exposed just how totally batshit the gun nuts on the extreme right are though. This stuff is so incredibly benign, but it's like they have been amping themselves up for outrage for so long that they can't not get mad.

 

[Deeko]

Its not on the list of the 23, Check the article and it clearly mentions this along with banning "assault weapons"

Those are things he is asking from congress. If you haven't noticed, the title of this thread is "President Obama's 23 orders concerning firearms".

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

what is resource officers?

18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."

Police officer that is assigned to the school.

 

[theevilsharpie]

what is resource officers?

18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."

Resource officer == armed school cop

 

[dank69]

and not a single one of those would have done anything to stop any single mass shooting on record.

8, 14 and 18

 

[Matt1970]

You fight things just to fight, don't you?

Training school staff to respond to active shooters couldn't have helped?
Improved mental health counseling couldn't have helped?
Research into the cause and prevention of gun violence can't help? (!?!?)

Ridiculous. These EOs have exposed just how totally batshit the gun nuts on the extreme right are though. This stuff is so incredibly benign, but it's like they have been amping themselves up for outrage for so long that they can't not get mad.

Train school staff to do what? Throw a book at a guy with a gun? They obviously need a lot of research into the cause and prevention of gun violence because they have no fucking clue as to what is causing it and what could prevent it.

 

[K1052]

Pretty much a yawn...as expected. The crazies are blowing their tops about this even so.

It is improbable that any meaningful legislation will get through congress with the other larger issues confronting them now.

 

[momeNt]

Very well played by Obama, let Biden say there will be some executive orders coming, let that stew the gun nights into a rabid frenzy, then when the EOs come they are incredibly benign and something the NRA already advocates. It makes the gun nuts look terrible and even the NRA put its foot in its mouth during the wait.

 

[Matt1970]

Police officer that is assigned to the school.

Why wouldn't it say police officer?

 

[highland145]

Very well played by Obama, let Biden say there will be some executive orders coming, let that stew the gun nights into a rabid frenzy, then when the EOs come they are incredibly benign and something the NRA already advocates. It makes the gun nuts look terrible and even the NRA put its foot in its mouth during the wait.

Just helping the economy. $$ are flowing.