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President Obama walks out of debt meeting

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I don't get it. If Obama said "don't call my bluff", doesn't that necessarily mean he is bluffing. As in, he is being deceptive?
 
senseamp said:
So you small government conservatives perceive end of government program payments as a threat?
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I kinda think older people who paid for SS all their lives need to get it. It was not FREE to most. Maybe if the payments stop you could pitch in for some cat food for the elderly. I hope Obama is not lying to the elderly about not getting SS if a debt ceiling is not raised. That would be a sick game to play.
 
eskimospy said:
No, that's not how the phrase is used.
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Seriously?

When I used to play poker if we thought someone was bluffing it meant they were deceiving you. Or if I we thought someone was deceiving us we would try to get someone to "call his bluff". I guess I've been using that phrase wrong my whole life lol.
 
matt0611 said:
Seriously?

When I used to play poker if we thought someone was bluffing it meant they were deceiving you. Or if I we thought someone was deceiving us we would try to get someone to "call his bluff". I guess I've been using that phrase wrong my whole life lol.
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Bluffing does mean that, but when you say don't call my bluff, what it means is 'i'm not bluffing, so if you try and call me you will lose'. It's a threat.
 
spidey07 said:
Just say it's a bet or no bet. What you do with your word is yours. I am sure of mine.
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I would if I trusted you to pay, which I don't. It's free $74 if you were guaranteed to pay. I could just buy insurance that pays $500 if Obama loses for $213, and sell insurance that pays $500 if Obama wins for $287, and pocket the difference right now, with no gamble in 2012.
 
senseamp said:
I would if I trusted you to pay, which I don't. It's free $74 if you were guaranteed to pay. I could just buy insurance that pays $500 if Obama loses for $213, and sell insurance that pays $500 if Obama wins for $287, and pocket the difference right now, with no gamble in 2012.
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This makes twice I've propositioned you. If you are sure of your position and can come out ahead no matter what.

Then bet or no bet? Call me. I am sure of my position. It appears you are not or the risk is too much for you. This is no bluff and I pay my obligations.
 
spidey07 said:
This makes twice I've propositioned you. If you are sure of your position and can come out ahead no matter what.

Then bet or no bet? Call me. I am sure of my position. It appears you are not or the risk is too much for you. This is no bluff and I pay my obligations.
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No bet. And there is no risk to me, aside from you not paying, as I tried to explain to you. It would be risk free $74 otherwise.
 
senseamp said:
No bet. And there is no risk to me, aside from you not paying, as I tried to explain to you. It would be risk free $74 otherwise.
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No bet it is then. You will not call.

Careful of your use of gambling terms with a gambler.

I assumed no such risk of you not paying because I was that sure in my position.
 
spidey07 said:
No bet it is then. You will not call.

Careful of your use of gambling terms with a gambler.

I assumed no such risk of you not paying because I was that sure in my position.
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Unless you are sure you are going to lose, you should care about my risk of non-paying.
 
Spidey I'm in on that bet too. You're likely gonna welsh though, you don't seem like the kind of man that would honor a bet from your childish posts.
 
OneOfTheseDays said:
Spidey I'm in on that bet too. You're likely gonna welsh though, you don't seem like the kind of man that would honor a bet from your childish posts.
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My understanding is that he has paid the bets he's made on this forum.... Which is why I can't understand why he doesn't take my bet....

\all in all - my bet is pretty good - and everyone gets to enjoy...
 
piasabird said:
Another thing we could do is stop importing cars. We should force all of American into a car that is built in America. We should also mandate all car parts be made in America. We should cut off all stinking imports if we can make it in the United States.
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Yep that's all we need, being told what cars we can buy. pretty soon it'll be down to what brand of toothpaste you're allowed to use and what time you're allowed to flush the toilet. thanks government for knowing what's better for me than I do!!
 
piasabird said:
Another thing we could do is stop importing cars. We should force all of American into a car that is built in America. We should also mandate all car parts be made in America. We should cut off all stinking imports if we can make it in the United States.
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That's easily a front-runner for the stupidest thing I've seen on these forums. Go home, comrade.
 
senseamp said:
spidey07 said:
Just say it's a bet or no bet. What you do with your word is yours. I am sure of mine.
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I would if I trusted you to pay, which I don't. It's free $74 if you were guaranteed to pay. I could just buy insurance that pays $500 if Obama loses for $213, and sell insurance that pays $500 if Obama wins for $287, and pocket the difference right now, with no gamble in 2012.
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Put it in escrow if both of you are serious
 
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