President Clinton: Don't underestimate the Tea Party

[Bateluer]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/21/clinton-to-democrats-dont-play-games-with-americans/

Clinton said Americans are "scared to death" and angry – and they want to know where the country is going.

His advice?

"Answer the 'throw him out after 21 months.'Say, give us two years. That will give us half as much as time as you gave them and if it's not better, throw us out," he said. "Say, 'throw us out if it's not better. Then say, let's talk about what we're going to do, who's more likely to do it.'"

But he warned that if the election is framed as a choice, "we can win." If it's a referendum, "it's not good."

Sounds like sound advice to me. Given the Tea Party's momentum and their recent wins, established politicians, either DNC or GOP, would be fools to ignore them.

As Clinton notes, Americans are angry, and they're showing it. And in increasing numbers too.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Clinton gets it

 

[Fear No Evil]

Clinton gets it

In the oval office, in the rose garden, on a blue dress... :whiste:

 

[Bateluer]

In the oval office, in the rose garden, on a blue dress... :whiste:

That didn't take long.

 

[CallMeJoe]

In the oval office, in the rose garden, on a blue dress... :whiste:

Envy is such an ugly emotion...

 

[Engineer]

Clinton gets it

Yes he does. I miss bubba.

 

[spidey07]

Clinton gets it

I smell desperation actually. I've seen this very attitude when my rep constantly says "if you don't like how I'm voting or doing then throw me out".

Remember when house, senate, pres in the first year were all about "the voters gave us a referendum and by golly we're going to do it, totally against their will".

Well a referendum is coming. STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING, about fucking face. Remember Obama doesn't care if he's a 1 term president, as long as he destroys the nation and enacts his radical agenda he'll be happy, same with the far left. They'll be satisfied in their damage.

Clinton does get one thing right, the pure anger. It's the most motivational and powerful emotion in a call to action in the voting booth.

 

[umbrella39]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/21/clinton-to-democrats-dont-play-games-with-americans/



Sounds like sound advice to me. Given the Tea Party's momentum and their recent wins, established politicians, either DNC or GOP, would be fools to ignore them.

As Clinton notes, Americans are angry, and they're showing it. And in increasing numbers too.

And Americans were pissed off in 2008, too and voted to change things up. Not much changed but most still know where the blame lies... it doesn't and certainly won't excuse the side that was hired to fix problems who haven't so far.

It's clear dems are going to lose seats and will be replaced by mirrors of the same people who were just voted out 2 years ago. They will be as inept as teabaggers as they were as neocons. The circle continues...

I will respect them greatly when they stop being lampreys on the GOP butt and go off on their own. We need a viable 3rd party in this country to stir the shit up. All the tea party can be is the same shit different name until they do.

 

[Jaskalas]

In the oval office, in the rose garden, on a blue dress... :whiste:

Ahh the roaring 90s... :whiste:

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

And Americans were pissed off in 2008, too and voted to change things up. Not much changed but most still know where the blame lies... it doesn't and certainly won't excuse the side that was hired to fix problems who haven't so far.

It's clear dems are going to lose seats and will be replaced by mirrors of the same people who were just voted out 2 years ago. They will be as inept as teabaggers as they were as neocons. The circle continues...

I will respect them greatly when they stop being lampreys on the GOP butt and go off on their own. We need a viable 3rd party in this country to stir the shit up. All the tea party can be is the same shit different name until they do.

The two parties will never allow a third to seriously challenge them. The most that you will see is upsetting the occasional election.

 

[Moonbeam]

The two parties will never allow a third to seriously challenge them. The most that you will see is upsetting the occasional election.

People can abandon the parties and form new ones so aren't the people at fault?

 

[Zebo]

Tea Party popular? Forgive them for they know not what they do ....

 

[BoberFett]

Yes he does. I miss bubba.

Clinton was a true statesman. He had his foibles, but I think we'd do well to put someone like him in the White House again.

 

[Zebo]

Yes he does. I miss bubba.

I'm surprised to hear you say you like NAFTA MFN pimp. You miss maybe the profligate debt spending that made economy kickass but he was a disaster long term. Gift that keeps on giving... Who you think got rid of all the banking rules that hit us 10 years later?

 

[Zebo]

Clinton was a true statesman. He had his foibles, but I think we'd do well to put someone like him in the White House again.

Yes starting a war when Senate said no is mark of USA statesman. Least Bush had authorization however misguided.

 

[CrackRabbit]

I'm surprised to hear you say you like NAFTA MFN pimp. You miss maybe the profligate debt spending that made economy kickass but he was a disaster long term. Gift that keeps on giving... Who you think got rid of all the banking rules that hit us 10 years later?

While Clinton signed it in to law, it was the (retarded) brainchild of the Republican congress.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

People can abandon the parties and form new ones so aren't the people at fault?

Ultimately yes, but my little poll the other day suggests that many won't or cannot accept straightforward scenarios they aren't familiar with. What happens when the issues are less clear cut? They burrow in like ticks to the familiar, and the parties do everything to make sure they do.

 

[Engineer]

I'm surprised to hear you say you like NAFTA MFN pimp. You miss maybe the profligate debt spending that made economy kickass but he was a disaster long term. Gift that keeps on giving... Who you think got rid of all the banking rules that hit us 10 years later?

I can agree that Clinton fucked up with NAFTA. Reagan dreamed it up, Bush I pushed it into being signed and Clinton signed it after it went through Congress. That is the biggest fault of the man in office (that I can remember).

Maybe I'm blinded by the temporary good times economy that we had then. Life financially, was fantastic when he was in office for the most part (Yes, I know it was on the back of a bubble). Thanks Zebo for raining on my parade!

 

[PokerGuy]

People have much too high of an opinion of Clinton just because he happened to be the president during a big giant bubble that didn't burst until after he left. The guy was lying cheating scum, the only reason things went relatively well is because there was gridlock between the republican congress and clinton, and there was a bubble.

Scum or not, he's always been a shrewd politician who knows which way the winds are blowing. He knows the dims are in for a nice mid term report card on their performance in office, and he wants them to change the focus from "what have you done, you screwed everything up!" to "yeah, things are screwed up, but we promise with more taxing and spending all will be well".

 

[HendrixFan]

Remember when house, senate, pres in the first year were all about "the voters gave us a referendum and by golly we're going to do it, totally against their will".

Well a referendum is coming. STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING, about fucking face. Remember Obama doesn't care if he's a 1 term president, as long as he destroys the nation and enacts his radical agenda he'll be happy, same with the far left. They'll be satisfied in their damage.

The problem with that is that Democrats haven't done anything. They have been a limp dick party behind a flaccid president. The "huge" healthcare bill Obama campaigned on and worked through became watered down and nothing like he had talked about. He can't work his own party with a supermajority.

It hasn't been a problem of going against the will of the voters, it has been a problem of doing nothing during this downturn. Nothing to fix the problem. Nothing concerning any other issue.

 

[Nemesis 1]

While Clinton signed it in to law, it was the (retarded) brainchild of the Republican congress.

Actually its conceptial brain child of Jim Carter

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Yeah the problem is that the angry americans are turning to people like Palin and O'Donnell to fix the problems instead of anyone that actually has the brains or understanding to fix things. idiots.

 

[Engineer]

Actually its conceptial brain child of Jim Carter

Reagan.

Click me

 

[Fear No Evil]

Yeah the problem is that the angry americans are turning to people like Palin and O'Donnell to fix the problems instead of anyone that actually has the brains or understanding to fix things. idiots.

Well we currently have the smartest man ever elected to any office in the history of the world and he can't seem to do much other than give speeches saying how hard it is and saying 'But Bush'. Maybe it IS time to try something different.

 

[bamacre]

Clinton was a true statesman. He had his foibles, but I think we'd do well to put someone like him in the White House again.

Completely disagree. Bubble economy and bad foreign policy. He's not significantly different from the two nuts who followed. The only exception (and it's a big one, I admit) being he didn't run up huge deficits.