President and first Lady test positive for Covid-19 (Trumps)

[pete6032]

Which States? I do understand the bidding war, but China basically horded masks. We had to have ventilators made at car manufacturers (IIRC).

So it was a challenge.

How much PPE did Illinois ask for and what did the feds send? Here’s a day-by-day account

Reports this week that the federal stockpile of N95 respirators, surgical masks, face shields, gowns and other personal protective equipment are nearly depleted put a cap on a public back and forth…

www.chicagotribune.com

There Is A White House Blockade Stopping States From Getting Coronavirus PPE

The NEJM has published a horrifying account of a health-care executive trying to evade what appear to be mafia tactics by the federal government.

nymag.com

 

[Viper1j]

Well, the skinny shortly after RBG's death was 3 possibilities:

1. Shove a nominee down our throat before the election.
2. Do that after the election in the "lame duck" session
3. The winner of the November election gets to submit his nominee in 2021

So, I'm still concerned that 2. will happen if 1. doesn't.

That presumes that they all survive.

Covid may have something to say about that.

 

[Muse]

That presumes that they all survive.

Covid may have something to say about that.

Well, if Trump died today, would his nominee be invalidated? By "they," who do you mean? Looks like Barrett is immune now because she recovered during the summer.

 

[Bitek]

I am quite serious. Politicians aren’t like religious leaders, who DO set an example.

We vote to get what we want. We don’t vote to “follow their example”

How quickly conservatives abandoned the "character" standard for the presidency and our national leadership.

When R leaders have zero, I guess you have to, but I'm guessing they won't let go of Clinton/Monica either.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

New Zealand is an fairly isolated island of 5 million people.

Can’t compare that to the US which has hundreds of millions of people and international airports all over the country which makes spreading it very easy.

Let’s roll with this, shouldn't Hawaii be comparable to NZ?
They’re not.

Let’s look at the big picture as of 9/22 NZ had 0.51(ish) infections per 100,000 people.
I am having trouble finding current net US numbers but I’ll use this chart and guess low, we will run with 150(ish) Covid per 100,000 people. Does New Zealand’s smaller size and fewer airports make them 300 times less likely to be infected or is there some sort of leadership difference involved in the large descrpancy?

Looking at the total cases is an even more depressing stat.

Chart 1 from 9/23/2020

Weiterleitungshinweis

Chart two updated on 10/2/2020

Weiterleitungshinweis

 

[Retro Rob]

You insisted on using per capita numbers then cite total population in attempt to rationalize our piss poor per capita numbers. This is exactly why I think you’re an idiot.

Per captia numbers are based on population size.

wow, I mean wow

 

[ch33zw1z]

Per captia numbers are based on population size.

wow, I mean wow

Hey, you said it yourself, each state does its own thing, here's current cases per 1million pop.

 

[Bumrush99]

Can you imagine the rage from the right wing zealots and rabid freedom lovers if Hillary was President? They'd blame her for every single death, say it's a government conspiracy to take their guns away and openly revolt in the streets against any government policy.

Meanwhile, Daddy Trump has on the record downplayed the threat and has directly been responsible for thousands of death through both his policies and inability to follow science. And they worship him more for it, like a bunch of sheep being led to slaughter.

 

[ewdotson]

My guess would be voted libertarian. The choice for those who find the Republicans insufficiently sociopathic.



To be fair, so are those for a large group of countries. Generally there seems to be a correlation between how badly a country is doing on that score and how macho and manly-wannabe the leadership is. I mean, it gives me no pleasure to say it (because I don't really like the 'women are better leaders' type of feminism, women can be awful people too) but the countries that have done well would be Germany and New Zealand, both run by women. While the worst would include the US, UK, India and Brazil, all run by wanna-be 'manly men'.

Also you have to exclude the microstates like San Marino and Andorra as countries with such small populations are going to be overly affected by specific random variations.

Yeah, realistically I don't think these whole-world ranking comparisons are terribly useful. If I were having a conversation with someone who was intellectually honest, I'd be focusing on comparing the US to specific countries like Germany or Canada and asking what lessons we could learn to do a better job than we have been.

 

[repoman0]

Per captia numbers are based on population size.

wow, I mean wow

Per capita numbers correct for population size, so it doesn’t matter how many people are in the US when comparing them. In fact the US has a really, really low population density overall which should have been a huge advantage. I mean, if you can’t even understand something this basic, maybe you’re just a fucking moron and should have the self awareness to realize it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yeah, realistically I don't think these whole-world ranking comparisons are terribly useful. If I were having a conversation with someone who was intellectually honest, I'd be focusing on comparing the US to specific countries like Germany or Canada and asking what lessons we could learn to do a better job than we have been.

Yea, this would be the reasonable conversation that libtards have been trying to have for quite some time.

 

[pmv]

That presumes that they all survive.

Covid may have something to say about that.

Less morbidly, it assumes they all recover fully in time for 2, and that they are no longer infectious enough to need to stay quarantined. You don't want to risk infecting the entire Supreme Court! (That would be an interesting situation).

Could hearings proceed via video links or in some other socially-distanced manner?

 

[ch33zw1z]

The Guardian: 'It’s a hoax. There's no pandemic': Trump's base stays loyal as president fights Covid.

'It’s a hoax. There's no pandemic': Trump's base stays loyal as president fights Covid

News that the president has contracted coronavirus prompted alarm and confusion among Trump supporters in Missouri

www.theguardian.com

Comedy gold. This is 'Murica

 

[Retro Rob]

Per capita numbers correct for population size, so it doesn’t matter how many people are in the US when comparing them. In fact the US has a really, really low population density overall which should have been a huge advantage. I mean, if you can’t even understand something this basic, maybe you’re just a fucking moron and should have the self awareness to realize it.

If not for NY and New Jersey (with libtards governing them) the US would be in really good shape.

Oh throw my state in there too, Michigan, where our Supreme Court just stripped Hitler of her executive powers.

Blue states performed the worse by far.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Look, people will die from it.

Im a realist.

Nobody on these forums stated their expectation was zero deaths. Nobody.
We all know Pandemics are big, dangerous, complicated things.
We all know advice and information will change as it develops and is studied.
We all expected some level of competence and leadership. This is where the President failed.
Governors who did something, even if it wasn’t the right thing to do have seen their approval ratings rise. March to May was the time for leaders to take chances and lead.
Golfing and trolling on Twitter is not leadership. Passing the buck is not leadership. Denying responsibility is not leadership.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

If not for NY and New Jersey (with libtards governing them) the US would be in really good shape.

Oh throw my state in there too, Michigan, where our Supreme Court stripper Hitler of her executive powers.

Blue states performed the worse by far.

Did you look at the State level infections?
We would still suck.

 

[K1052]

n/m

 

[Bumrush99]

If not for NY and New Jersey (with libtards governing them) the US would be in really good shape.

Oh throw my state in there too, Michigan, where our Supreme Court just stripped Hitler of her executive powers.

Blue states performed the worse by far.

Blue states are far more dense than the backcountry, trailer park areas you so admire.

 

[repoman0]

If not for NY and New Jersey (with libtards governing them) the US would be in really good shape.

Oh throw my state in there too, Michigan, where our Supreme Court just stripped Hitler of her executive powers.

Blue states performed the worse by far.

None of this is true. Fucking moron with no self awareness confirmed, welcome to ignore. Have fun wasting everyone’s time here.

 

[Retro Rob]

Blue states are far more dense than there backcountry, trailer park areas you so admire.

I live in MICHIGAN. Did you bother to read my post?

 

[ch33zw1z]

I live in MICHIGAN. Did you bother to read my post?

That's right, all of MI is a sprawling metro area, and totally didn't go EC for trump in '16

 

[NWRMidnight]

Well, if Trump died today, would his nominee be invalidated? By "they," who do you mean? Looks like Barrett is immune now because she recovered during the summer.

She isn't necessarily immune. There are cases around the world where people have contracted it twice. Difference strains most likely. So it is possible she could still come up positive in the next week or so.

 

[ewdotson]

If not for NY and New Jersey (with libtards governing them) the US would be in really good shape.

Oh throw my state in there too, Michigan, where our Supreme Court just stripped Hitler of her executive powers.

Blue states performed the worse by far.

This does not appear to be particularly true.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Per capita numbers correct for population size, so it doesn’t matter how many people are in the US when comparing them. In fact the US has a really, really low population density overall which should have been a huge advantage. I mean, if you can’t even understand something this basic, maybe you’re just a fucking moron and should have the self awareness to realize it.

This morning I was talking about a guy who used to work for me. He was a “big” dumb guy. Big in this sense means he was as wide as he was tall. Sort of like a barrel. Definitely the guy you’d want watching your back in a bar fight.
He used to say when he was younger he had an IQ test and if he was any more stupid he would be retarded. He wasn’t a very smart guy.
He was really, really good at what he did because he followed direction well and he would do online training modules multiple times to understand them and he’d read printed material so much he’d almost have it memorized. He stuck to all the points in the training materials, we would ask occasional dumb questions to me or coworkers but he took the answers seriously.
Basically the guy worked very hard at being smarter than what he was born with.
I know Retro has it in him to figure this out. The last part is the hardest. Accepting there are others who are far superior intelligence and admit when something is a feeling like “I like Trump” or “I think the President did a great job with Covid” vs trying to argue per capita numbers that plainly don’t favor the point he is trying to make.

 

[HomerJS]

If not for NY and New Jersey (with libtards governing them) the US would be in really good shape.

Oh throw my state in there too, Michigan, where our Supreme Court just stripped Hitler of her executive powers.

Blue states performed the worse by far.

You realize you sound just like Trump puppet mouthing his very words while he works you. How does it feel with his hand up your ass?

States with the highest COVID cases 2023| Statista

As of March 2023, the U.S. state with the highest COVID cases had over 12 million. Five states had over four million cases.

www.statista.com

What are Florida and Texas's excuse? They are #2 and #3 in cases on pace to double New York's total. They had the most historical information yet... Next time engage brain before speaking. In other words do your own research stop parroting Trump. I'm doing you a favor so you look less stupid next time.

Update: Just to let @Retro Rob know how much he was played by Trump. I checked the top 10 states COVID cases. Amazing 5 are red, 5 are blue. Totals

Red 1,986,000
Blue 1,987,000

Again I will mention the red states caught up AFTER we knew more about COVID so they don't have an excuse.