I think I've decided that the Prescotts aren't as bad as they were. I had one final question though: Shimmishim mentioned D0 and E0 stepping. What's the difference there? I know I'm at least getting a D0 stepping, but is the E0 better? By the way, I'm looking at a 3.4 Prescott.
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Gees ppl he said NO overclocking. The latest comparison between precott and Athlon 64 is here. The platform descriptions are on page 3, the video editing/encoding benchmarks are on pp 7,8 and the gaming benchmarks start on p 9. The A/V editing/encoding is very dependent on the software you are using (adobe premiere seems to be A64 while autogk goes to prescott).
The only northwood comparison I could find was way back when prescott was launchedhere. Basically at the same clock and with same chipset prescott was very similar in performance to the northwoods but runs hotter.
Price to performance wise, I think you'd be ok with a 3500 athlon 64 (the dual channel memory will actually be helpful for your intended uses). The ddr2 memory really jacks the price of a prescott system up, and the 3.4g northwood is so rare now that its price is disproportionately high.
The only northwood comparison I could find was way back when prescott was launchedhere. Basically at the same clock and with same chipset prescott was very similar in performance to the northwoods but runs hotter.
Price to performance wise, I think you'd be ok with a 3500 athlon 64 (the dual channel memory will actually be helpful for your intended uses). The ddr2 memory really jacks the price of a prescott system up, and the 3.4g northwood is so rare now that its price is disproportionately high.
Wait for the E0 core.. you'll start to see the best of the prescott with that. Then again I have both A64 and E0 Prescott..and I would prefer the AMD system at stock. I bought the P4 for overclocking purposes only.
yeah i know, so i think prescotts are just fine thermally at lower speeds...but when it hits 3Ghz++, then thermal issues come in...
well i don't really know for sure because i'm not overclocking... but that's what people say, prescotts are hot... but runnning stock would be pretty fine and intel designed thermal solution can handle it pretty well...
I figure generally that if Intel designed the cooling solution, they probably got it to work, therefore I should be able to get it to work... I will have one large case fan at the back. I'm re-using an old Dell Dimension XPS Pentium 2 something-or-other case for this build since I'm cheap, but I'm getting a new PSU. I'm a little concerned about heat, but I hope it won't be a problem...
If you are running stock speeds the Northwoods are better performers. Prescotts are great overclockers.
Don't believe too much those people who say Prescott is too hot. Most of people who are against Prescotts are A64 or Northwood users. (Because, IMO, there are not many reasonable reasons to switch from A64 or Northwood to Prescott unless you really want to try it out) Many of them only repeat what the others say. Yes, it runs hotter than Northwood/A64, but still cooler than old goody Thunderbird 
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.Originally posted by: everydae
Don't believe too much those people who say Prescott is too hot. Most of people who are against Prescotts are A64 or Northwood users. (Because, IMO, there are not many reasonable reasons to switch from A64 or Northwood to Prescott unless you really want to try it out) Many of them only repeat what the others say. Yes, it runs hotter than Northwood/A64, but still cooler than old goody Thunderbird
what's thunderbird? anyway, reasons why i bougth prescott:
1. before, i thought P4 2.4 are all the same (im a newbie in the PC world... )
2. it's the only one readily available here in my place
3. it's cheaper than northwoods...
Originally posted by: bim27142
Originally posted by: everydae
Don't believe too much those people who say Prescott is too hot. Most of people who are against Prescotts are A64 or Northwood users. (Because, IMO, there are not many reasonable reasons to switch from A64 or Northwood to Prescott unless you really want to try it out) Many of them only repeat what the others say. Yes, it runs hotter than Northwood/A64, but still cooler than old goody Thunderbird
what's thunderbird? anyway, reasons why i bougth prescott:
1. before, i thought P4 2.4 are all the same (im a newbie in the PC world... )
2. it's the only one readily available here in my place
3. it's cheaper than northwoods...
and no HyperThreading...
Originally posted by: everydae
Don't believe too much those people who say Prescott is too hot. Most of people who are against Prescotts are A64 or Northwood users. (Because, IMO, there are not many reasonable reasons to switch from A64 or Northwood to Prescott unless you really want to try it out) Many of them only repeat what the others say. Yes, it runs hotter than Northwood/A64, but still cooler than old goody Thunderbird
Ahhhh... No its not. The prescotts have over a 100watt power useage. Look at any review, or build several systems, like myself, that have used both.
Oh and since everybody that does not agree is a fanyboy....
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Now, I haven't actually checked but Prescott could have higher power usage and still run cooler than a T-bird due to core size differences. Power usage alone doesn't necessarily indicate how hot a processor will be or how hard it will be to cool.
Theoretically, you could have a 150 watt processor that's easier to cool than a 100 watt processor if the 150 watt chip is a larger core size.
Theoretically, you could have a 150 watt processor that's easier to cool than a 100 watt processor if the 150 watt chip is a larger core size.
Which is the best for socket 478 ? C0, DO, EO steppings
What was special about the CO steppings ??
Regards,
Jose
What was special about the CO steppings ??
Regards,
Jose
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