Prescott issues

[kd2777]

Guys (and Gals) I just put together my new system;


P4 2.8E
Abit Max3
Thermalright HS w/80mm Coolermaster fan

and various other parts.

Well when I started benchmarking it everything looked great, (was a big upgrade from my 1.8 system!!!). I had heard this CPU got hot, and after reading the Prescott temp article I checked my temp, and according to my Mobo it is running at 62c at idle and 76c at load!!! that is within 9c of the shutoff mechanism. I have yet to overclock it (afraid to, might catch the house on fire). Does anyone know if these numbers are close to accurate, if they are too high, and if there is any solutions to get them under control. Any comments will be welcome.

Thanks

 

[Macro2]

Sorry, but why in the world would you buy a Prescott?
Maybe you can return it. Heck, Dell won't even sell them in a system.

 

[AMDScooter]

That article just does not hold water. The testing method is shotty as hell, he might as well have just held his hand over the fan and guessed teh temps. Those numbers seem about average for air cooling. The Prescott runs hot as hell and I would not even put one of those damn things in my Vapo unit. Any chance you could return it for a Northwood chip? If not I'd consider a faster fan to get more air over that heatsink, if you can take the niose. GL

 

[LTC8K6]

I think Dell is offering Prescotts in the 360 Workstation.

 

[Macro2]

RE:"I think Dell is offering Prescotts in the 360 Workstation."

OK one computer. Just to keep Intel happy. Meanwhile Intel works round the clock to redesign the Prescott.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Holy cow that is pretty hot, what is the heatsink solution that comes with those just out of curiosity?

Edit: Nevermind I re-read his post.

 

[Mo0o]

Why not get teh 2.4C Northwood and OC to 2.8.

 

[kd2777]

I just played Farcry for 30 minutes and this thing hit 83!!!! I can't believe how hot this CPU is running. I can think of only two things to do, replace the coolermaster for a Vantec tornado or replace the CPU!!! looks like the latter is a better option.

 

[LTC8K6]

If Intel could "redesign" Prescott that fast, we'd all be in trouble.

If you're not happy with it kd, then by all means switch to a Northie. It'll be faster anyway.

Do make sure the temps are accurate though, for the record.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: kd2777
I just played Farcry for 30 minutes and this thing hit 83!!!! I can't believe how hot this CPU is running. I can think of only two things to do, replace the coolermaster for a Vantec tornado or replace the CPU!!! looks like the latter is a better option.

I would suggest replacing it with a 2.4C Northwood and OC that sucker. It safely overlocks to 3.0 with no temperature changes, although this was done on a Shuttle SFF so im not sure how it'll work out in your cooling setup.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Is Prescott really THAT much of a blunder for Intel?

 

[Dug]

What heasink fan and thermal paste are you using?
I know the p4 Abit boards report higher temps than others, but that is too high.

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: Dug
What heasink fan and thermal paste are you using?
I know the p4 Abit boards report higher temps than others, but that is too high.

I'm using a 50 dollar Thermalright copper heatsink and a 80mm Coolermaster fan on top of it, I have always run my CPUs cool with this thing. I have CoolerMaster Premium paste on it as well.

Thanks for the comments.

 

[wizdum]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Is Prescott really THAT much of a blunder for Intel?

LOL.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: kd2777

Originally posted by: Dug
What heasink fan and thermal paste are you using?
I know the p4 Abit boards report higher temps than others, but that is too high.

I'm using a 50 dollar Thermalright copper heatsink and a 80mm Coolermaster fan on top of it, I have always run my CPUs cool with this thing. I have CoolerMaster Premium paste on it as well.

Thanks for the comments.

OK, you're doing something wrong if that heatsink won't keep it cool.

1. Remove the heatsink and clean both the heatsink and cpu with high-quality isopropyl alcohol (90% alcohol content or more).
2. Reinstall the heatsink with the thermal paste applied to the processor. I would recommend Arctic Silver 5 for this use.
3. If the heatsink and fan have a dust buildup on them get a can of compressed air (or an air compressor) and blow it off.
4. Try to improve the chassis airflow (information on these would be helpful).
5. If you have a hardware temp monitor try that instead since motherboard reports can vary quite a bit.

-Por

 

[AMDScooter]

OK, you're doing something wrong if that heatsink won't keep it cool.

Looks to me like he knows how to install aheatsink properly. I think the Prescotts just run hot as hell.

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: kd2777

Originally posted by: Dug
What heasink fan and thermal paste are you using?
I know the p4 Abit boards report higher temps than others, but that is too high.

I'm using a 50 dollar Thermalright copper heatsink and a 80mm Coolermaster fan on top of it, I have always run my CPUs cool with this thing. I have CoolerMaster Premium paste on it as well.

Thanks for the comments.

OK, you're doing something wrong if that heatsink won't keep it cool.

1. Remove the heatsink and clean both the heatsink and cpu with high-quality isopropyl alcohol (90% alcohol content or more).
2. Reinstall the heatsink with the thermal paste applied to the processor. I would recommend Arctic Silver 5 for this use.
3. If the heatsink and fan have a dust buildup on them get a can of compressed air (or an air compressor) and blow it off.
4. Try to improve the chassis airflow (information on these would be helpful).
5. If you have a hardware temp monitor try that instead since motherboard reports can vary quite a bit.

-Por

Por, thanks for the suggestion, followed the steps (except for the type of paste, nowhere to get it where I live at this hour) and same temps.... As far as case cooling that shouldn't be a problem, I'm one of the few people in the world that loves to HEAR their computer. I have 2 intake 80mm fans in the front and one out in the back and a blow hole on top (all running wide open), my case is the Lian-li pc-65 if that help in placement of fans (the stock sunons where just replaced with new CoolerMasters when I got the Motherboard, HS fan is new as well). I don't have a way of checking the temps via anyother channel than what is in the bios and the ABITEQ.

Thanks

KD

 

[BFG10K]

It sounds like something is wrong with your fan/heatsink setup.

I'm using a 50 dollar Thermalright copper heatsink and a 80mm Coolermaster fan on top of it, I have always run my CPUs cool with this thing. I have CoolerMaster Premium paste on it as well.

Why aren't you using the Intel cooling solution that came with your processor?

 

[kd2777]

Originally posted by: Macro2
Sorry, but why in the world would you buy a Prescott?
Maybe you can return it.

I knew the CPU got hot, but I thought with a good HSF and case cooling it wouldn't be a problem, because fan noise doesn't bother me (maybe replacing the 5 80mm fans in my case with Vantec Tornados would) So my thinking was if the prescott was going to be a really good chip at higher clock cycles then I would get it and over clock it to 3.4 - 3.6 and I would have a great CPU, but earlier today I tried OCing a little and went slowly to 3.08 (I think) and during 3dmark it shut down because the temp reached 85c. This is not what I was wanting.

Thanks

 

[kd2777]

RE: why aren't you using the stock HSF


I guess I could, but I though the Thermalright was a better HSF.....maybe I should try that.....I'll be back

Thanks

 

[BFG10K]

I guess I could, but I though the Thermalright was a better HSF

Intel stakes their reputation on their cooling solution, along with the three year warranty they provide with the processor. I always trust cooling solutions from the vendors who make the actual hardware much more than some off-the-shelf cooling solution.

I'll be back

Be sure to clean the CPU properly before you attach it.

 

[AIWGuru]

You can safely ignore the anandtech article. Its testing methodology wouldn't pass in a grade 4 science class.
It's extremely poor and leaves me thinking Intel paid someone something.
I can't believe that ANYONE would be THAT stupid and inept.
Ignore that article. It's flop.

 

[jdogg707]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

I guess I could, but I though the Thermalright was a better HSF

Intel stakes their reputation on their cooling solution, along with the three year warranty they provide with the processor. I always trust cooling solutions from the vendors who make the actual hardware much more than some off-the-shelf cooling solution.

I'll be back

Be sure to clean the CPU properly before you attach it.

But the Thermalright is a better solution than the Intel. I have not seen a Retail heatsink, except maybe with the Athlon64 that can match the best aftermarket heatsinks. It sounds as if he has something like the SP94 which is proven to be the best P4 consumer aftermarket air cooling solution and there is no way unless the thermal paste was applied improperly that the stock heatsink/fan combo will be able to beat it, especially using a thermal pad.

 

[BFG10K]

But the Thermalright is a better solution than the Intel.

Well let me put it another way: does Thermalright give your P4 a three year warranty which they will honour if their cooling solution damages it during that time?

 

[jdogg707]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

But the Thermalright is a better solution than the Intel.

Well let me put it another way: does Thermalright give your P4 a three year warranty which they will honour if their cooling solution damages it during that time?

No, but the OP said he wanted to overclock, which would void his warranty anyway.