Pregnant nurse fired for not taking flu vaccine

[shira]

Texashiker, I think I finally "get" your argument, and I think it's really valid. In fact, it's clear that it needs to be extended to other important things. For example:

How come we don't have coffee shops only for high-risk pregnant women? It's obvious that if a coffee shop accepts all types of customers, the percentage of women with a history of miscarriages at the coffee shop will be only a few percent, and the coffee shop cannot possibly serve good coffee to those women if it's also serving coffee to other types of customers. So we need a coffee shop exclusively for women with a history of miscarriages, because that's the only way to ensure that good coffee is served to such women.

 

[Exophase]

Everyone, I've just completed a study that surveyed every single person that has been pregnant and is still alive today. But I've got a serious problem, only a few percent of the people had a history of failed pregnancies. I tried to get more high risk data points but I hit a snag, it turns out there were no more available!

Therefore I must reluctantly conclude that studies on high risk pregnancies are impossible and any claim about dangers toward them must be assumed to be true.

 

[umbrella39]

Did you not read anything in the last 15 pages?

With one hand on his keyboard and the other ferociously beating on little Texas...

He feeds off all the replies of people banging their heads against their keyboards thinking that if they just explain it one more time he'll finally 'get' it.

It's all an act.

 

[Screech]

How come we don't have coffee shops only for high-risk pregnant women? It's obvious that if a coffee shop accepts all types of customers, the percentage of women with a history of miscarriages at the coffee shop will be only a few percent, and the coffee shop cannot possibly serve good coffee to those women if it's also serving coffee to other types of customers. So we need a coffee shot exclusively for women with a history of miscarriages, because that's the only way to ensure that good coffee is served to such women.

Not sure if a typo or not, but either way, I approve of this post :thumbsup:

 

[Victorian Gray]

I think in the end it may really be this simple. The employer has a rational reason for this policy - she is in a position to spread infuenza to a lot of people, including some who would be at risk of death - while she has no science on her side. I can understand her reluctance to take anything into her body with her history of miscarriage, but I can see the employer's side as well.

Hell, they even gave her an out by saying present us with medical evidence and we'll work something out.

She gave them something from an unregistered mid-wife and a GP who gave her a note saying it might be better not to have the shot because it was making her 'nervous'.

She also apparently had at least one flu shot in the past while employed by the same company.

Sorry, I appreciate that she's had a rough time trying to have kids but she's also apparently something of an idiot.

 

[shira]

Not sure if a typo or not, but either way, I approve of this post :thumbsup:

Yeah, typo.

 

[werepossum]

Yeah, typo.

But a coffee shot exclusively for women with a history of miscarriages is so apropo.

Hmm, that can't possibly be how "apropo" is spelled, yet Spellchecker says all is well and who am I to argue with our computer overlords?

 

[blankslate]

Well, in most cases flu vaccines probably don't have a detrimental effect on a woman's pregnancy.

However, considering this woman's apparent propensity to have miscarriages why not try to accommodate her by seeing if there is a temporary position (even at reduced hours) in which she can work without having to take the flu shot?

This to me illustrates the fact that people with conservative leanings claim to want the best for the fetus.....

but what it's really about for a lot of them (even if it's just a large plurality and not the majority) is control over a woman's choices rather than protecting the fetus.

fuck y'all

 

[hal2kilo]

With one hand on his keyboard and the other ferociously beating on little Texas...

He feeds off all the replies of people banging their heads against their keyboards thinking that if they just explain it one more time he'll finally 'get' it.

It's all an act.

And that why he's in my ignore club.

 

[TraumaRN]

Well, in most cases flu vaccines probably don't have a detrimental effect on a woman's pregnancy.

However, considering this woman's apparent propensity to have miscarriages why not try to accommodate her by seeing if there is a temporary position (even at reduced hours) in which she can work without having to take the flu shot?

This to me illustrates the fact that people with conservative leanings claim to want the best for the fetus.....

but what it's really about for a lot of them (even if it's just a large plurality and not the majority) is control over a woman's choices rather than protecting the fetus.

fuck y'all

Believe me when I say I'm liberal as hell and have no problem with her firing. All the hospitals in my area would do the same thing. It's not a recent thing either, it was a requirement for my job in 2008!

The preponderance of evidence is that no harm would have been to mom or fetus. I suggest you read up on the actual research and evidence.

 

[JD50]

Well, in most cases flu vaccines probably don't have a detrimental effect on a woman's pregnancy.

However, considering this woman's apparent propensity to have miscarriages why not try to accommodate her by seeing if there is a temporary position (even at reduced hours) in which she can work without having to take the flu shot?

This to me illustrates the fact that people with conservative leanings claim to want the best for the fetus.....

but what it's really about for a lot of them (even if it's just a large plurality and not the majority) is control over a woman's choices rather than protecting the fetus.

fuck y'all

It might be a good idea to actually read the thread.

 

[blankslate]

It might be a good idea to actually read the thread.

Might be a good idea to stop wanting to fuck over a pregnant woman.

 

[TraumaRN]

Might be a good idea to stop wanting to fuck over a pregnant woman.

Might be a good idea to read the thread. You are making yourself sound ignorant. We've covered your concerns ad nauseum, the bigger threat to this particular pregnant woman and pregnant woman in general is getting actual influenza.