Prediction: What will bring down Trump

[disappoint]

Once the debates for the general election begin... you will!

Trump is like a hot air balloon. Hilarious will poke jabs in it but virtually no one will notice.

 

[cbrunny]

The general election. Even if he wins the nomination, I don't think he has any chance of beating either of the Democratic nominees. Not because of who they are but because of who Trump is. He is his own worst enemy, imo.

If I'm wrong, it'll be ISIS.

 

[vi edit]

I have no idea. What I do know is that this year we will have two of the most unelectable personalities I've seen on a ballot. Gore, Kerry, Dubya, ect. They may have been dull or dimwitted, but at least they weren't rambling fools or emotionless ice queens.

Trump is a true enigma in politics. I know like 4 people that support him. And 10x that number that think he's a rambling, incoherent buffoon. But yet, here he is. The GOP is a disaster. I thought that after Obama won the first time. The Tea Party put a wedge down the middle and took all the looney's with them. Those votes will go to trump. The Old Party establishment that remains has very little youth or energy behind it and their bread and butter demographics are rapidly dwindling.

The Republicans needed to do *SOMETHING* to fan some energy into the party. I think Trump has been a fun ride, but eventually that stagecoach is going to transform back into the pumpkin and the party is going to be over. At some point I think we'll wake up as a nation and realize this guy is going to make a fun 4 years (if he lasts/lives that long) but it isn't what we really needed and vote the "safer" option.

But then the safer option is a wreck in her own right. A *TON* of historical baggage and the emotional appeal of an ice cube.

I don't really have a clue what will happen. I just feel like Trump is a more media bite friendly version of Ron Paul back 2008. That was a grassroots effort that had what felt like a lot of support behind it and a rabid backing base. But it fizzled hard when it mattered. Trump seems to have a larger following but I think that's more for the entertainment than anything.

This is just a really weird election cycle.

 

[SP33Demon]

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I have no idea. What I do know is that this year we will have two of the most unelectable personalities I've seen on a ballot. Gore, Kerry, Dubya, ect. They may have been dull or dimwitted, but at least they weren't rambling fools or emotionless ice queens.

Trump is a true enigma in politics. I know like 4 people that support him. And 10x that number that think he's a rambling, incoherent buffoon. But yet, here he is. The GOP is a disaster. I thought that after Obama won the first time. The Tea Party put a wedge down the middle and took all the looney's with them. Those votes will go to trump. The Old Party establishment that remains has very little youth or energy behind it and their bread and butter demographics are rapidly dwindling.

The Republicans needed to do *SOMETHING* to fan some energy into the party. I think Trump has been a fun ride, but eventually that stagecoach is going to transform back into the pumpkin and the party is going to be over. At some point I think we'll wake up as a nation and realize this guy is going to make a fun 4 years (if he lasts/lives that long) but it isn't what we really needed and vote the "safer" option.

But then the safer option is a wreck in her own right. A *TON* of historical baggage and the emotional appeal of an ice cube.

I don't really have a clue what will happen. I just feel like Trump is a more media bite friendly version of Ron Paul back 2008. That was a grassroots effort that had what felt like a lot of support behind it and a rabid backing base. But it fizzled hard when it mattered. Trump seems to have a larger following but I think that's more for the entertainment than anything.

This is just a really weird election cycle.

Nice summation of the current state of affairs! :thumbsup:

 

[SP33Demon]

I have no idea. What I do know is that this year we will have two of the most unelectable personalities I've seen on a ballot. Gore, Kerry, Dubya, ect. They may have been dull or dimwitted, but at least they weren't rambling fools or emotionless ice queens.

Trump is a true enigma in politics. I know like 4 people that support him. And 10x that number that think he's a rambling, incoherent buffoon. But yet, here he is. The GOP is a disaster. I thought that after Obama won the first time. The Tea Party put a wedge down the middle and took all the looney's with them. Those votes will go to trump. The Old Party establishment that remains has very little youth or energy behind it and their bread and butter demographics are rapidly dwindling.

The Republicans needed to do *SOMETHING* to fan some energy into the party. I think Trump has been a fun ride, but eventually that stagecoach is going to transform back into the pumpkin and the party is going to be over. At some point I think we'll wake up as a nation and realize this guy is going to make a fun 4 years (if he lasts/lives that long) but it isn't what we really needed and vote the "safer" option.

But then the safer option is a wreck in her own right. A *TON* of historical baggage and the emotional appeal of an ice cube.

I don't really have a clue what will happen. I just feel like Trump is a more media bite friendly version of Ron Paul back 2008. That was a grassroots effort that had what felt like a lot of support behind it and a rabid backing base. But it fizzled hard when it mattered. Trump seems to have a larger following but I think that's more for the entertainment than anything.

This is just a really weird election cycle.

Trump is just entertainment? What planet are you living on? Trump is within 3 points of hillary in general polls and gaining by the minute as hillary continues to self destruct with email scandal bombshells.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

You have the exact mindset of the GOP who didn't take him seriously.

 

[vi edit]

Trump is a guy that I think has a very outspoken popularity base. But a *huge* number of people that truly hate the guy and will show up at the real polls and prove it. They don't want to be shown on facebook or some other site showing support one way or the other. But when numbers count, he's going down.

 

[LPCTech]

I find it INCREDIBLY amusing that people think Trump can win.

Who is not voting for Trump:
Black people
Hispanics
Muslims
anyone with non-white skin
Women
50% of white people
all other democrats

Who is voting for Trump:
Angry already republican white men and perhaps a few really dumb women.

I think it will be the most lopsided loss against a GOP candidate ever.

I could probably beat Trump in a general election.

 

[Tequila]

As an independent I see Trump as a train wreck for the republican party. This is going to be a 60-40 type whooping in the general election if he is the Republican nominee perhaps even worse. The only people he hasn't offended are the loony old white people.

He sure is hell is entertaining every time he opens his ignorant and denigrating mouth and it's going to be a fun ride to watch. All he needs to top off his guaranteed loss is to select Sarah Palin as his running mate! Wait for it... wait for it... don't laugh it could happen.

 

[FerrelGeek]

This is the most recent info I could find on the demographics of Trump supporters:
http://www.arbiternews.com/2016/01/06/demographics-of-donald-trump-supporters/

I find it INCREDIBLY amusing that people think Trump can win.

Who is not voting for Trump:
Black people
Hispanics
Muslims
anyone with non-white skin
Women
50% of white people
all other democrats

Who is voting for Trump:
Angry already republican white men and perhaps a few really dumb women.

I think it will be the most lopsided loss against a GOP candidate ever.

I could probably beat Trump in a general election.

 

[trenchfoot]

It really doesn't matter to me if Trump wins in the primaries. His real and most valuable accomplishments have been to plainly and clearly expose how big moneyed interests like himself have taken over the gov't, and how his being the front runner of the Repubs in the race really shows how utterly pathetic the crop of Repubs are in this election cycle.

And yes, the spillover has affected how Hillary looks to the voting public and to me, that has made Sander's slim anti-establishment chances all the better and his message that much more convincing and compelling.

Either way, the hand that the power brokers have been playing has been laid on the table for all to see and the voting public have been given the ability to make a stand as to whether or not the status quo will remain in place or to effect a new beginning where the majority takes back the gov't from the powerful few.

 

[feralkid]

This is the most recent info I could find on the demographics of Trump supporters:
http://www.arbiternews.com/2016/01/06/demographics-of-donald-trump-supporters/

Pretty much what everyone already knew:

Old White Uneducated Frightened Bigots.

 

[vi edit]

Pretty much what everyone already knew:

Old White Uneducated Frightened Bigots.

Well, that's how Blevin got voted into Governor in KY...so there's a chance.

But on a national level when you have Democratic powerhouse states like CA, NY, IL and then toss in the myriad of voting minorities that Trump has pissed off...it's not going to go well for him.

 

[feralkid]

It really doesn't matter to me if Trump wins in the primaries. His real and most valuable accomplishments have been to plainly and clearly expose how big moneyed interests like himself have taken over the gov't, and how his being the front runner of the Repubs in the race really shows how utterly pathetic the crop of Repubs are in this election cycle.

And yes, the spillover has affected how Hillary looks to the voting public and to me, that has made Sander's slim anti-establishment chances all the better and his message that much more convincing and compelling.

Either way, the hand that the power brokers have been playing has been laid on the table for all to see and the voting public have been given the ability to make a stand as to whether or not the status quo will remain in place or to effect a new beginning where the majority takes back the gov't from the powerful few.

I agree for the most part; however, I must point out that your last sentence also reflects what many Trump backers think they are doing.

 

[Phokus]

A sex tape would do it.

Or a 3rd party run that some billionaire/think tank rightwingers are talking about behind closed doors.

 

[Sonikku]

I wonder if the Koch Bros would support Hillary if Trump wins the nom. They don't care about social issues. But if Hillary is malleable like Bush is (she is) then they might give her money to fight the guy they can't control and being Hillary, she would take it.

 

[glenn1]

A sex tape would do it.

Or a 3rd party run that some billionaire/think tank rightwingers are talking about behind closed doors.

The primary name I've heard floated for this is Bloomberg. He'd hurt Trump but likely hurt the democratic nominee more.

 

[HomerJS]

Just dig up a bunch of women who had sex with Trump in the past and say he has a small dick and E.D. His own narcissism will cause him to implode.

 

[feralkid]

Just dig up a bunch of women who had sex with Trump in the past and say he has a small dick and E.D. His own narcissism will cause him to implode.

Or his base would simply see him as just like them and double down.

 

[VRAMdemon]

In a lot of ways, Trump is the first candidate who really realizes how stupid and ignorant the average American really is, and is aiming for that. His persona is more of a consequence of it than a reflection of the actual man. Even if you start with a million bucks of daddy's money, you don't end up as successful as Trump if you're not smart and savvy.

I suspect a lot of Trump supporters are aware, on some dim semi-conscious level, that their conservative leadership has been playing them for suckers all along, by pretending moral and patriotic solidarity with them while actively pursuing policies that drastically undermine their prosperity and interests. But like drug addicts made miserable by their dependency but unable to give it up, they soothe their dissatisfaction by simply transferring their allegiance to a different dealer who promises them a more potent fix.

And as a result, I think that Trump's smart enough to realize that he'll eventually have to play ball in order to effectively govern, and that'll mean that he'll make deals and be pragmatic.

I suspect that if he ends up as the Republican nominee, we'll see a change in his persona that counters Hillary Clinton, as she's who he's trying to beat now, not Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Trump's not an ideologue, so I don't think he'll double down on the Tea Party style super-right wing craziness.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Just dig up a bunch of women who had sex with Trump in the past and say he has a small dick and E.D. His own narcissism will cause him to implode.

Marla Maples and Sandra Taylor have already shot that line of attack down.

 

[vi edit]

The primary name I've heard floated for this is Bloomberg. He'd hurt Trump but likely hurt the democratic nominee more.

I think it's going to take a double blunder to get a Republican in the white house. Trump is going to have to make such a monumental mockery of the process (even worse than he has already) that the GOP will be forced to put up a new puppet.

And then something absolutely damning is going to have to happen in the Clinton camp. Hillary has the establishment backing of the democrats. She's the safe bet and has the name recognition (for better or worse) and the international experience chops to make Trump look like the idiot he is when it comes to sparing on those issues at debate time.

I don't think Hilary sputtering later this year is going to do it. There's too much money, backing and support there on the donkey side of the isle and Trump is far too much of a lightning rod to pull the votes when they matter.

 

[feralkid]

Even if you start with a million bucks of daddy's money, you don't end up as successful as Trump if you're not smart and savvy.

Actually it's been proven that you would, by simple, safe and prudent means.

 

[LegendKiller]

In a lot of ways, Trump is the first candidate who really realizes how stupid and ignorant the average American really is, and is aiming for that. His persona is more of a consequence of it than a reflection of the actual man. Even if you start with a million bucks of daddy's money, you don't end up as successful as Trump if you're not smart and savvy.

I suspect a lot of Trump supporters are aware, on some dim semi-conscious level, that their conservative leadership has been playing them for suckers all along, by pretending moral and patriotic solidarity with them while actively pursuing policies that drastically undermine their prosperity and interests. But like drug addicts made miserable by their dependency but unable to give it up, they soothe their dissatisfaction by simply transferring their allegiance to a different dealer who promises them a more potent fix.

And as a result, I think that Trump's smart enough to realize that he'll eventually have to play ball in order to effectively govern, and that'll mean that he'll make deals and be pragmatic.

I suspect that if he ends up as the Republican nominee, we'll see a change in his persona that counters Hillary Clinton, as she's who he's trying to beat now, not Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Trump's not an ideologue, so I don't think he'll double down on the Tea Party style super-right wing craziness.

Or that he's the first person to realize that he can ride the train of massive dissatisfaction among the plebes regarding Mc jobs and mcwages that the dems only have one solution for, high min wage. Forget fucked up trade pacts and illegals suppressing wages, just raise min wage and hand out more free shit.

It's hilarious dems are the ones who think they are so smart and they think alienating a large part of the electorate by calling them stupid will win them any accolades in the future.

Here's a hint, by treating those on the lower end with contempt you are causing your own demise. You'll just create more of them as your own uniparty policies continue to fail more and more people and the only way you can win is to tax more and hand out free shit.

The people know who trump is. He is a fuck you to the faux enlightened asshole like you. They have reprioritized their Maslow hierarchy of needs from wedge issues to something they are actually living and they are telling you what they think. Even if trump does nothing he says he will, at least they have given you the finger.

This is the most recent info I could find on the demographics of Trump supporters:
http://www.arbiternews.com/2016/01/06/demographics-of-donald-trump-supporters/

 

[dainthomas]

There are too many of us that have a boner about building that wall, for Trump to fail. Every time he says it, I get a huge boner. Nothing pleases me more than hearing him say those words and then telling me Mexico is going to pay for it. My woody is probably taller than the wall.

Walls are awesome! Has there ever been a time when they haven't worked?