Prediction: Trump will be the next President - "Take it to the bank"

[glenn1]

Just saying.....


1964: Lyndon Johnson 486, Barry Goldwater 52

President Lyndon Johnson was still basking in the afterglow of John F Kennedy’s popularity. The Republicans held a stormy nominating convention that was characterized by bickering between the moderate and conservative factions of the party. The hardcore conservatives eventually won, selecting Arizona senator Barry Goldwater as their nominee.

Like many politicians, Goldwater had an unfortunate propensity for making off the cuff remarks. He infamously quipped that the U.S. should lob a nuclear bomb at the men’s room in the Kremlin. He also made statements about using nuclear weapons in Vietnam and making social security voluntary. Most Americans saw him as too right-wing to be president. They feared that he was a dangerous extremist who would start a nuclear war with the Soviet Union.

The Johnson campaign brilliantly exploited this fear with their famous “Daisy” ad. It featured a little girl plucking flower petals. A countdown is heard, followed by a nuclear explosion. The ad ended with a solemn narrator saying, "Vote for President Johnson on November 3rd. The stakes are too high for you stay home." This was included because the Johnson campaign was worried that complacency among their supporters would lead to a low turnout.

Americans’ fears propelled the president to a lopsided win. Johnson won 44 states, including several that have not been won by a Democratic presidential candidate since - Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah, and Wyoming. Goldwater won his home state of Arizona and a handful of southern states.

What makes you think it will be 1964 rather than 2004? The later seems like the better analog since it was two very uninspiring candidates each having huge weaknesses for the other to exploit and doesn't feature an incumbent President following up a recently assassinated one.

 

[vi edit]

You've got one party coming in mostly unified (assuming Bernie keeps quiet) and the other coming in as a raging dumpster fire of discontent and fractured policies. Toss in one of the most polarizing figures in modern American history on top of that...

Totally not the same as 2004.

 

[glenn1]

You've got one party coming in mostly unified (assuming Bernie keeps quiet) and the other coming in as a raging dumpster fire of discontent and fractured policies. Toss in one of the most polarizing figures in modern American history on top of that...

Totally not the same as 2004.

I don't think it's that similar to any election. In bits and pieces it does (like the general 'meh' factor of both candidates to 2004) or perhaps the 1968 or 1972 Democratic nomination dumpster fires. But in this case it's like we're taking the worst parts of every election in memory and putting them into one supremely screwed up election in 2016.

 

[vi edit]

But in this case it's like we're taking the worst parts of every election in memory and putting them into one supremely screwed up election in 2016.

And with that we are in total agreement. Silver lining is that we can wake up most mornings and say "At least we're not Turkey!".

 

[Moonbeam]

That's more than a little bit delusional.

In a liberal brain defective sort of way. We have yet to see any fires going out, in my opinion. And if Trump wins it's going to be incredibly interesting to watch. What with climate change and President Trump, maybe liberals wouod be best off forming an army and invading Canada.

 

[Thump553]

What makes you think it will be 1964 rather than 2004? The later seems like the better analog since it was two very uninspiring candidates each having huge weaknesses for the other to exploit and doesn't feature an incumbent President following up a recently assassinated one.

One main different between 1964 and today is that in 1964 Goldwater was seen as batshit crazy by most voters. Today one of the two major parties delights in and celebrates been badshit crazy, so it is no longer a bad thing (unfortunately for the future of our country).

The other difference is both major candidates have huge negative ratings, something I don't think has happened in my lifetime. If enough of the Dems usual support stays home or votes some third party or is barred from the voting booths due to GOP obstructionism it could be close

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

One main different between 1964 and today is that in 1964 Goldwater was seen as batshit crazy by most voters. Today one of the two major parties delights in and celebrates been badshit crazy, so it is no longer a bad thing (unfortunately for the future of our country).

The other difference is both major candidates have huge negative ratings, something I don't think has happened in my lifetime. If enough of the Dems usual support stays home or votes some third party or is barred from the voting booths due to GOP obstructionism it could be close

GOP obstructionism, nice joke.

 

[Moonbeam]

GOP obstructionism, nice joke.

What about them isn't?

 

[theeedude]

If Trump is our next president, you should take everything out of the bank, not take anything to it.

 

[werepossum]

In a liberal brain defective sort of way. We have yet to see any fires going out, in my opinion. And if Trump wins it's going to be incredibly interesting to watch. What with climate change and President Trump, maybe liberals wouod be best off forming an army and invading Canada.

In my opinion, most incredibly interesting things are best experienced from the outside looking in, not the inside looking out. Obviously there are significant exceptions, such as a three way with hot women, but as a rule, I prefer the ability to sidle off at will.

 

[Moonbeam]

In my opinion, most incredibly interesting things are best experienced from the outside looking in, not the inside looking out. Obviously there are significant exceptions, such as a three way with hot women, but as a rule, I prefer the ability to sidle off at will.

I am always on the outside looking in and don't you mean slither. 😉

 

[Jhhnn]

The best part is watching the Repub establishment scrambling to regain control of the mob of fools they've spent an enormous amount of time, effort & money to create. Never in their wildest dreams did it ever occur to them that the Donald would grab the mic & turn that mob against them.

They've employed political alchemy to play with fire for decades, keeping a nice big blaze that got away from them & threatens to burn down the house.

Dems, in the meanwhile, are waiting for the flames to die down so we can roast some weenies over the glowing embers.

That's more than a little bit delusional.

Believing Trump to be more than a charlatan is what's delusional.

 

[brainhulk]

First time in all of history Brainhulk made a correct prediction

 

[shortylickens]

First time in all of history Brainhulk made a correct prediction

I made a prediction, but I wasnt hoping it could come true.
I thought there would be a crapload of quiet Trump supporters giving everyone a great big shock on election night.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Posting in a WIN/WIN thread!

 

[shortylickens]

NBC is still showing 218 - 248, but since Hilary gave up already I guess it doesnt matter.

 

[Torn Mind]

In a liberal brain defective sort of way. We have yet to see any fires going out, in my opinion. And if Trump wins it's going to be incredibly interesting to watch. What with climate change and President Trump, maybe liberals wouod be best off forming an army and invading Canada.

Canada would welcome liberals easy.