Prediction: Movies in theaters will be down to 90 min, and the REAL movie will be out on DVD

JEDI

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i can see the movie company's cutting down the movie time to 90 min in theaters so they can churn more shows in a day. then release the dvd where they will have the REAL movie (aka director's cut) on DVD. so we have to pay even more.

if they try to squeeze us like that, i'm heading to kazaa lite and screw the money grubbing production companies.

LET there be competition ;)
 

dman

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Originally posted by: JEDI
i can see the movie company's cutting down the movie time to 90 min in theaters so they can churn more shows in a day. then release the dvd where they will have the REAL movie (aka director's cut) on DVD. so we have to pay even more.

if they try to squeeze us like that, i'm heading to kazaa lite and screw the money grubbing production companies.

LET there be competition ;)
Actually, Not much of a prediction. It's already like that. (Except for some big budget movies, and even then they hold out some scenes to sell the DVD's).

 

Gunbuster

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Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......
 

Glitchny

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Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......

exactly, and if u have a decent Home Theatre system u are all set, no need to bother with the lines expenses and annoyances
 

ndee

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Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......

exactly, and if u have a decent Home Theatre system u are all set, no need to bother with the lines expenses and annoyances

normally we have to wait for 6 months til the movies in America hit the stores in Switzerland and Code 1 DVDs aren't allowed to be sold anymore :(:(:(
 

FeathersMcGraw

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Any slack in film running time is eaten up by the trailers and commercials that precede it.

Besides, we've just seen a 3+ hour film cut into two separate films because the studio didn't want to make the director edit it under the 3 hour mark. I doubt pressure to push running length down to a paltry hour and a half would sit well with either creators or audiences.
 

0roo0roo

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you'd just have emptier theaters. many theaters around here already have a decent amount of padded time between showings for cleaning etc. showings aren't free you know,expensive wear and tear on equipment. better to have less shows that are full then many half empty:p
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......

Lets see. $10,000 for a killer home theater. At my local theater, for 2 people (+Soda, popcorn for two) is $42. + Gas money to get there and back (Assuming 15mpg van, 10 miles each way, $2 gas prices - you know that's what OPEC wants) = $46.67. +Dinner afterwards @ McFrickin'Donalds = $56.67.

That's C=56.67*M

where C=total cost and M=number of movies. (Assuming $15 movie)

However, HT setup is C=10000+15*M

A more realistic setup is a $5000 HT. C=5000+15M.

Want to save some more money? Rent it. C=5000+5M

Buy a DVDRW and do a 1:2 DVD copy on your rentals ($1/disc media) C=5000+160+7M

So if you're a warez kiddy and copy your rentals... You need to view 104 movies to save money. This is why the motion picture industry continues with the whole 'theater' concept - even the warez kids need to handle an obscene amount of movies to break even.

Of course, I excluded downloading the movies, because quality is often so much less than theater/DVD that it isn't worth it, and even most DVD rips are downsampled instead of 1:2 split. Not to mention the bandwidth cost associated with downloading DVD rips from the United States (Canada, for example, has 3x the bandwidth for the same, if not less, cost in their broadband system, and dialup is EXTINCT, whereas in the US, it is still the primary method of connectivity.)
 

IGBT

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Could be..dvd movie/player sales are thru the roof. I can remember when vhs prerecorded movies first hit the retail consumer market..they were well over 100.00 and some near 200.00 (199.95) so dvd movies today are cheap and much better quality. What do you think of that ..doll??
 

MangoTBG

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Originally posted by: JEDI
i can see the movie company's cutting down the movie time to 90 min in theaters so they can churn more shows in a day. then release the dvd where they will have the REAL movie (aka director's cut) on DVD. so we have to pay even more.

if they try to squeeze us like that, i'm heading to kazaa lite and screw the money grubbing production companies.

LET there be competition ;)



OMG!!!!1!1! YOUR JEDI L33TNESS FJEARS M3!!!!11!1!1
 

bigalt

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god, i only wish movies would be cut down that short.

I can only think of a handful of movies over an hour and a half that needed to be that long. I got dragged to the two towers and had to sit there for a 5 minute glamour shot of some white horse? that kind of garbage will ruin your night.
 

MegaloManiaK

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Well i dont know if anyone else noticed but the last two movies i went to see, underworld and kill bill, each had ~ 30 mins of previews before them.

And it wasn't like we were showing previews before 6pm and then the movie started at 6 and we watched another 10 mins of trailers. At 6 when the movie was listed as starting they started up 30 mins of trailers and commercials.

I enjoy the anti piracy one, it cracks me up every time.
 

ViRGE

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90 minutes!? Woohoo!:D Being a tall guy, sitting in such a cramped space for 2+ hours is a pain in the ass(literally); 90 minute movies would be far more enjoyable, otherwise add an intermission.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: MegaloManiaK
Well i dont know if anyone else noticed but the last two movies i went to see, underworld and kill bill, each had ~ 30 mins of previews before them.

And it wasn't like we were showing previews before 6pm and then the movie started at 6 and we watched another 10 mins of trailers. At 6 when the movie was listed as starting they started up 30 mins of trailers and commercials.

I enjoy the anti piracy one, it cracks me up every time.

century theatres doesn't show commercials:) from what i remember, the trailers only took about 15 minutes.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......

Lets see. $10,000 for a killer home theater. At my local theater, for 2 people (+Soda, popcorn for two) is $42. + Gas money to get there and back (Assuming 15mpg van, 10 miles each way, $2 gas prices - you know that's what OPEC wants) = $46.67. +Dinner afterwards @ McFrickin'Donalds = $56.67.

That's C=56.67*M

where C=total cost and M=number of movies. (Assuming $15 movie)

However, HT setup is C=10000+15*M

A more realistic setup is a $5000 HT. C=5000+15M.

Want to save some more money? Rent it. C=5000+5M

Buy a DVDRW and do a 1:2 DVD copy on your rentals ($1/disc media) C=5000+160+7M

So if you're a warez kiddy and copy your rentals... You need to view 104 movies to save money. This is why the motion picture industry continues with the whole 'theater' concept - even the warez kids need to handle an obscene amount of movies to break even.

Of course, I excluded downloading the movies, because quality is often so much less than theater/DVD that it isn't worth it, and even most DVD rips are downsampled instead of 1:2 split. Not to mention the bandwidth cost associated with downloading DVD rips from the United States (Canada, for example, has 3x the bandwidth for the same, if not less, cost in their broadband system, and dialup is EXTINCT, whereas in the US, it is still the primary method of connectivity.)

There's one problem with that theory though. HT in general have other uses - watching DTV, OTH HD, DTV HD, XBOX, Gamecube, PS2, HTPC. Not to mention you can listen to music with a nice 5-10k setup.

The amount of use my home theater gets is well work the 5k I spent on it and I rarely go to the movies anymore (just for big movies like Kill Bill). I've got a better Klipsch/Denon/Mitsubishi home theater and better screen than any theater provides! Also I have Netflix and I get movies all the time.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......

Lets see. $10,000 for a killer home theater. At my local theater, for 2 people (+Soda, popcorn for two) is $42. + Gas money to get there and back (Assuming 15mpg van, 10 miles each way, $2 gas prices - you know that's what OPEC wants) = $46.67. +Dinner afterwards @ McFrickin'Donalds = $56.67.

That's C=56.67*M

where C=total cost and M=number of movies. (Assuming $15 movie)

However, HT setup is C=10000+15*M

A more realistic setup is a $5000 HT. C=5000+15M.

Want to save some more money? Rent it. C=5000+5M

Buy a DVDRW and do a 1:2 DVD copy on your rentals ($1/disc media) C=5000+160+7M

So if you're a warez kiddy and copy your rentals... You need to view 104 movies to save money. This is why the motion picture industry continues with the whole 'theater' concept - even the warez kids need to handle an obscene amount of movies to break even.

Of course, I excluded downloading the movies, because quality is often so much less than theater/DVD that it isn't worth it, and even most DVD rips are downsampled instead of 1:2 split. Not to mention the bandwidth cost associated with downloading DVD rips from the United States (Canada, for example, has 3x the bandwidth for the same, if not less, cost in their broadband system, and dialup is EXTINCT, whereas in the US, it is still the primary method of connectivity.)
Don't forget that my couch at home is more comfy than those ass-busting seats at a theater, and all home theaters these days come with ahole-filtering algorithms, so that all ahole comments/laughing are filtered out. Unfortunately movie theaters haven't introduced these into their audio yet :)

Also $2k will get you a very competent home theater system (audio) if you buy the right stuff. Then another $2k for a bigscreen tv and you're set. So many movies still have artifacts up the yin yang at theaters anyway...

I find movies are so damn quick to come to dvd these days that if you miss it in theater you can wait a very short time and go pick the thing up at blockbuster anyhow.

 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......

Lets see. $10,000 for a killer home theater. At my local theater, for 2 people (+Soda, popcorn for two) is $42. + Gas money to get there and back (Assuming 15mpg van, 10 miles each way, $2 gas prices - you know that's what OPEC wants) = $46.67. +Dinner afterwards @ McFrickin'Donalds = $56.67.

That's C=56.67*M

where C=total cost and M=number of movies. (Assuming $15 movie)

However, HT setup is C=10000+15*M

A more realistic setup is a $5000 HT. C=5000+15M.

Want to save some more money? Rent it. C=5000+5M

Buy a DVDRW and do a 1:2 DVD copy on your rentals ($1/disc media) C=5000+160+7M

So if you're a warez kiddy and copy your rentals... You need to view 104 movies to save money. This is why the motion picture industry continues with the whole 'theater' concept - even the warez kids need to handle an obscene amount of movies to break even.

Of course, I excluded downloading the movies, because quality is often so much less than theater/DVD that it isn't worth it, and even most DVD rips are downsampled instead of 1:2 split. Not to mention the bandwidth cost associated with downloading DVD rips from the United States (Canada, for example, has 3x the bandwidth for the same, if not less, cost in their broadband system, and dialup is EXTINCT, whereas in the US, it is still the primary method of connectivity.)

Anyone who buys food at a movie theater is a friggin' moron.
 

alkemyst

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The average movie has already gone from 120 to 90 mins. It's been that way for a long time now.

Even with fans wanting 2hour plus movies, most viewers cry about longer movies....it's like WTF do they want their entertainment to be shorter?
 

rh71

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We go to the theatres to make a night of it... we don't care about spending $20 vs. spending the $15 for a DVD months later.

You can have the same argument about food then... people go out to go out.
 

markuskidd

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Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......

exactly, and if u have a decent Home Theatre system u are all set, no need to bother with the lines expenses and annoyances

and then, you can never ever leave your home! work from a home office, date online..... who needs other people?!?
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
90 minutes!? Woohoo!:D Being a tall guy, sitting in such a cramped space for 2+ hours is a pain in the ass(literally); 90 minute movies would be far more enjoyable, otherwise add an intermission.

:beer:
 

GTaudiophile

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But don't forget the multiple releases of DVDs. The 1.5+bonuses version will come out, then the real version+bonuses, and lastly the THX-super-remastered version + bonues + 4 multiple versions of the ending, etc.

Kinda like the multiple versions of T2. I also got fubared with Black Hawk Down!
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Why pay $20+ for two people to see a movie when I can wait and buy the DVD for ~$15

Its rare for me to pay and see a movie, I just wait for the DVD and skip the $5 pop, sticky floor, idiot loud kids, crying babys, bad prints, messed up sound, ......

Lets see. $10,000 for a killer home theater. At my local theater, for 2 people (+Soda, popcorn for two) is $42. + Gas money to get there and back (Assuming 15mpg van, 10 miles each way, $2 gas prices - you know that's what OPEC wants) = $46.67. +Dinner afterwards @ McFrickin'Donalds = $56.67.

That's C=56.67*M

where C=total cost and M=number of movies. (Assuming $15 movie)

where C=total cost and M=number of movies. (Assuming $15 movie)

However, HT setup is C=10000+15*M

A more realistic setup is a $5000 HT. C=5000+15M.

Want to save some more money? Rent it. C=5000+5M

good lord, 10 miles away is the closest theater? i have two multiplexes within 1-2 miles :) they are everywhere!! and yea, eating at theater is over rated, i can watch movies without stuffing my piehole.

that being said, even a 10,000 dollar home theater system isn't going to get even near to a good theater experience. all the theaters near me are new or remodeled now so its damn cool. i guess i could understand if you only had hole in the wall theaters around you, but the theaters i go to aren't stick floored or skimping on the projector bulbs:p

not to mention even a 10,000dollar home theater is limited to 740x480 resolution max:p rather pitiful compared to the glorious picture you can get at a good theater on a truely giant screen:)