Predictable result in the French slaughter of 3 Jewish Children and a Rabbi..

[peonyu]

As im sure most people have heard by now, in France a lunatic on a motorcycle zoomed into a Jewish School and gunned down 3 kids - one who is 5 years old, one is 6 and the Girl 8 years old. He chased the girl down the lawn and shot her in the head point blank then sped off.

At first the news was focused on the perp being a quote on quote "Racist Anti-Semite" [ie- a Neo nazi white guy], even Sarkozi chimed in saying WW2 was awful etc etc. Well turns out the real killer is holed up in a apartment building right now and goes by the name of Mohamed or Mohammad Merah.


First stories soon after the shooting -
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/153952#.T2n54dXQeZQ

"The murderer who gunned down a rabbi and three Jewish children may have filmed the murders. French police suspect he is a neo-Nazi.

French Interior Minister Claude Gueant revealed that the gunman was "wearing an apparatus around his neck" that might have been used to film the brutal murders with the possibility of posting them online.

"We can imagine” the attacker recorded the killings, he said.

Police believe the murderer was one of three neo-Nazis who were ejected from the army for their racist activities. Police have gathered a team of 120 investigators to try to find the man who appears to have been the one who killed soldiers in two separate attacks the past 10 days.""





The not surprising truth comes out today that it was another Religion of Peace attack-
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120319/EU.France.School.Shootings/?cid=hero_media

"French police were preparing to storm an apartment building in Toulouse on Wednesday to arrest a holed-up gunman who is suspected in seven killings and claiming allegiance to al-Qaida, a top police official said.

Three officers were wounded in a predawn raid while trying to arrest the 24-year-old Frenchman of Algerian descent who authorities said had spent time in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Hundreds of riot police have surrounded the building in the southwestern city.

Cedric Delage, regional secretary for a police union, said the suspect has promised to turn himself into police shortly. Delage said if that doesn't happen, police will force their way in.

The gunman is suspected of killing three Jewish children, a rabbi and three French paratroopers in recent days.

The suspect has told police he belonged to al-Qaida and wanted to take revenge for Palestinian children killed in the Middle East, Interior Minister Claude Gueant said, adding the man was also angry about French military intervention abroad.

An Interior Ministry official identified the suspect as Mohamed or Mohammad Merah, who has been under surveillance for years for having "fundamentalist" views. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.""

 

[silverpig]

If you're going to cast the entire religion in the light of one extremist, I will do it too:

This guy's actions show that Christianity is WAY more violent. After all, 77 > 5 (or whatever the number is...)

 

[QuantumPion]

If you're going to cast the entire religion in the light of one extremist, I will do it too:

This guy's actions show that Christianity is WAY more violent. After all, 77 > 5 (or whatever the number is...)

There difference is when christians perpetrate these sort of crimes, 99.999% of the population does a collective facepalm, denounces the killer, and demands for swift justice. In the case of RoP'ers, 75-90% give a collective high-five for sacrificing himself for the cause.

 

[JEDIYoda]

If you're going to cast the entire religion in the light of one extremist, I will do it too:

This guy's actions show that Christianity is WAY more violent. After all, 77 > 5 (or whatever the number is...)



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Problem is your statement has absolutely nothing to do with the Op`s topic......
You are trying to derail the topic.

 

[JEDIYoda]

There difference is when christians perpetrate these sort of crimes, 99.999% of the population does a collective facepalm, denounces the killer, and demands for swift justice. In the case of RoP'ers, 75-90% give a collective high-five for sacrificing himself for the cause.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[werepossum]

There difference is when christians perpetrate these sort of crimes, 99.999% of the population does a collective facepalm, denounces the killer, and demands for swift justice. In the case of RoP'ers, 75-90% give a collective high-five for sacrificing himself for the cause.

Exactly.

Were I Jewish, I'd be getting myself and my family the hell out of France, and not just because of this act.

 

[peonyu]

If you're going to cast the entire religion in the light of one extremist, I will do it too:

This guy's actions show that Christianity is WAY more violent. After all, 77 > 5 (or whatever the number is...)

He is a admitted Atheist...Fail. Also as far as France goes, Sarkozi basically fucked himself over. He pulled a Obama but on a much larger scale [ie-a learning moment/teaching moment] and laid blame on the far right party of his nation [Le Penn] for the murders...Le Penn is very very close to over taking Sarkozi this election, and he just made it easy for them to point to Muslims and make a show out of this slaughter. He blamed Native French people before the facts were in and those Native French may be swayed to vote against him this time and vote for a Nativist far right group instead.

 

[FerrelGeek]

There difference is when christians perpetrate these sort of crimes, 99.999% of the population does a collective facepalm, denounces the killer, and demands for swift justice. In the case of RoP'ers, 75-90% give a collective high-five for sacrificing himself for the cause.

This. And when a Christian commits a crime like this, libs go into a screaming, head-spinning rage, condemning the religious right, but when a RoP'er does it, they bend over backwards to rationalize it and make sure that everyone knows that it doesn't hold true for the RoP as a whole.

 

[Lemon law]

The perp is more an Al-Quida operative with a previous history. Who gunned down French Soldiers before and participated in other acts of ethnic terrorism before he choose to add French Jews to his list of other victims in his short lived terrorist career.

To me he is more of a psychopathic equal opportunity murderer, and painting him as only a antisemitic motivated sheds no enlightenment and only outrage heat.

I don't see must difference between this fellow, or Brevak, or our very own Gerald Laughner. When someone is totally psychopathic, they need no rational reasons to murder any one. The thankful lesson here, IMHO, is that he has no followers. As his acts against Jews and non-Jews alike, win him only universal condemnation. As Christians, Jews, and Muslims can unite on that point.

There are always a few such nuts at all times and all nations in world history. The fallacy implicit is that we can ever learn anything from the actions of total psychopaths.

 

[peonyu]

This. And when a Christian commits a crime like this, libs go into a screaming, head-spinning rage, condemning the religious right, but when a RoP'er does it, they bend over backwards to rationalize it and make sure that everyone knows that it doesn't hold true for the RoP as a whole.

The difference is Motive. How many so-called "Christian" killers have killed in the name of Christianity in the last 60 years ? Hardly any. Of course Liers would like to list Stalin [Atheist] or Hitler [Pagan non Christian who wrote about his vast respect for warrior religions like Islam] as "Christian" killers.

Muslim killers on the other hand ? Do I even need to go there ? LOL. This RoP'er, Bin laden, the 9/11 murderers, countless murderers in Egypt and other countries who kill in the name of Islam...Give me a break.

 

[fskimospy]

There difference is when christians perpetrate these sort of crimes, 99.999% of the population does a collective facepalm, denounces the killer, and demands for swift justice. In the case of RoP'ers, 75-90% give a collective high-five for sacrificing himself for the cause.

Can you provide us with some links to support your 75-90% figure?

 

[piasabird]

This just seems to be a pointless argument.

 

[Dari]

Why is the OP so focused on the Jews killed? What about the Muslim soldiers killed by this same terrorist?

Also, why the sudden massive manhunt after the Jews were killed? THe Muslims were killed weeks ago and no one thought anything to hunt down their killers on such a scale? Pathetic.

 

[Craig234]

There difference is when christians perpetrate these sort of crimes, 99.999% of the population does a collective facepalm, denounces the killer, and demands for swift justice. In the case of RoP'ers, 75-90% give a collective high-five for sacrificing himself for the cause.

You're a liar.

 

[Craig234]

The difference is Motive. How many so-called "Christian" killers have killed in the name of Christianity in the last 60 years ? Hardly any. Of course Liers would like to list Stalin [Atheist] or Hitler [Pagan non Christian who wrote about his vast respect for warrior religions like Islam] as "Christian" killers.

Muslim killers on the other hand ? Do I even need to go there ? LOL. This RoP'er, Bin laden, the 9/11 murderers, countless murderers in Egypt and other countries who kill in the name of Islam...Give me a break.

Two million killed by our war in Vietnam - point out to me the two million killed by Muslims?

 

[Lemon law]

Methinks, peonyu, you have a case of selective vision and see only Muslim acts with total false clarity. Sgt Bales is only the tip of the iceberg. As you also forget all the Christian on Muslim murders in Yugoslavia. But why blame only Jews, Muslims, and Christians, when we can talk about the killing fields in Cambodia. Or Hindu' mobs in India murdering Muslims. Or we can look at a nation like Israel now being run by totally crazed settler parties.

History can be very instructive regarding religious intolerance. God seeming exits to justify religious murder.

 

[cybrsage]

Methinks, peonyu, you have a case of selective vision and see only Muslim acts with total false clarity. Sgt Bales is only the tip of the iceberg. As you also forget all the Christian on Muslim murders in Yugoslavia. But why blame only Jews, Muslims, and Christians, when we can talk about the killing fields in Cambodia. Or Hindu' mobs in India murdering Muslims. Or we can look at a nation like Israel now being run by totally crazed settler parties.

History can be very instructive regarding religious intolerance. God seeming exits to justify religious murder.

Your inclusion of Israel in the list of nations where mass slaughters took place shows you are not to be taken seriously. Show me the mass slaughter Israel is doing.

 

[ichy]

Two million killed by our war in Vietnam - point out to me the two million killed by Muslims?

OUR war? It was North Vietnam that was attempting to take over the South. Sorry if that conflicts with your "hate America" view of history.

 

[Siddhartha]

As im sure most people have heard by now, in France a lunatic on a motorcycle zoomed into a Jewish School and gunned down 3 kids - one who is 5 years old, one is 6 and the Girl 8 years old. He chased the girl down the lawn and shot her in the head point blank then sped off.

At first the news was focused on the perp being a quote on quote "Racist Anti-Semite" [ie- a Neo nazi white guy], even Sarkozi chimed in saying WW2 was awful etc etc. Well turns out the real killer is holed up in a apartment building right now and goes by the name of Mohamed or Mohammad Merah.


First stories soon after the shooting -
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/153952#.T2n54dXQeZQ

"The murderer who gunned down a rabbi and three Jewish children may have filmed the murders. French police suspect he is a neo-Nazi.

French Interior Minister Claude Gueant revealed that the gunman was "wearing an apparatus around his neck" that might have been used to film the brutal murders with the possibility of posting them online.

"We can imagine” the attacker recorded the killings, he said.

Police believe the murderer was one of three neo-Nazis who were ejected from the army for their racist activities. Police have gathered a team of 120 investigators to try to find the man who appears to have been the one who killed soldiers in two separate attacks the past 10 days.""





The not surprising truth comes out today that it was another Religion of Peace attack-
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120319/EU.France.School.Shootings/?cid=hero_media

"French police were preparing to storm an apartment building in Toulouse on Wednesday to arrest a holed-up gunman who is suspected in seven killings and claiming allegiance to al-Qaida, a top police official said.

Three officers were wounded in a predawn raid while trying to arrest the 24-year-old Frenchman of Algerian descent who authorities said had spent time in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Hundreds of riot police have surrounded the building in the southwestern city.

Cedric Delage, regional secretary for a police union, said the suspect has promised to turn himself into police shortly. Delage said if that doesn't happen, police will force their way in.

The gunman is suspected of killing three Jewish children, a rabbi and three French paratroopers in recent days.

The suspect has told police he belonged to al-Qaida and wanted to take revenge for Palestinian children killed in the Middle East, Interior Minister Claude Gueant said, adding the man was also angry about French military intervention abroad.

An Interior Ministry official identified the suspect as Mohamed or Mohammad Merah, who has been under surveillance for years for having "fundamentalist" views. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.""

What is your point? European Christians get a bum rap when someone goes ape shit and kills groups of people the Europeans have historically hated, feared, enslaved, oppressed, raped, killed, etc?

I agree everyone should wait until there is more information on a situation before they make accusations.

BTW, are you French?

 

[Ausm]

Can you provide us with some links to support your 75-90% figure?

He would have a hard time pulling it back out of his ass i suppose.

 

[Anarchist420]

OUR war? It was North Vietnam that was attempting to take over the South. Sorry if that conflicts with your "hate America" view of history.

Actually, those who did support the Vietnam War were anti-American because it was at the expense of American taxpayers and American lives. So you are every bit as anti-American as Craig is if you support sacrificing Americans' lives and money for foreigners.

Anyway, maybe the criminal who murdered the French Jewish family was a Nazi also.

 

[ichy]

Actually, those who did support the Vietnam War were anti-American because it was at the expense of American taxpayers and American lives. So you are every bit as anti-American as Craig is if you support sacrificing Americans' lives and money for foreigners.

The Vietnam War was not in our national interest and was a conflict we should not have been involved in. That does NOT mean that we were the aggressors. North Vietnam is solely responsible for that.

 

[Lemon law]

Your inclusion of Israel in the list of nations where mass slaughters took place shows you are not to be taken seriously. Show me the mass slaughter Israel is doing.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------What an absurd position to take cybrsage, Israel has more than one nut walk into a Muslim Mosque and open fire while the Israeli state steals Palestinian land on ongoing basis since 1948 and before. And it was a fellow Jew who murdered Israeli prime Rabin. Or that fine fellow Begin, who bombed the King David Hotel while the Brits were still in charge. Nor is that the end of Begin, as he went on to murder thousands of Palestinians Villagers in cold blood.
Or we can talk about Israeli war crimes committed during operation cast lead that still hangs over Israel.

And in related news a Palestinian authority spokesman joined a chorus of other voices in condemning the French mass murderer.

I won't say that my litany against Israel is typical of the Israeli State, but it somewhat implies Israel has more per capita nuts than any country in Islam. If the shoe fits, cybrsage, wear it.

 

[5150Joker]

Where was the outrage over what Robert Bales did? I saw a lot of "oh poor guy he has PTSD" posts. So many hypocrites. A killer is a killer, this guy should pay for what he did just like Robert Bales, regardless of either one's circumstances or beliefs.

 

[silverpig]

He is a admitted Atheist...Fail. Also as far as France goes, Sarkozi basically fucked himself over. He pulled a Obama but on a much larger scale [ie-a learning moment/teaching moment] and laid blame on the far right party of his nation [Le Penn] for the murders...Le Penn is very very close to over taking Sarkozi this election, and he just made it easy for them to point to Muslims and make a show out of this slaughter. He blamed Native French people before the facts were in and those Native French may be swayed to vote against him this time and vote for a Nativist far right group instead.

"The manifesto states its author is "100 percent Christian",[4] but he is not "excessively religious"[4] and considers himself a "cultural Christian" and a "modern-day crusader".[3][4]"