Predict George Zimmerman Verdict

[nextJin]

Not Guilty on all counts, anything else would be a slap to the face of our justice system and quite frankly everyone should be ashamed. This should have never went to trial, and the guy is closing with crap, nothing he is saying as any legal meaning. All of it is basically race baiting or playing on emotion, bringing up Jeantel saying she lied but she did it for a reason and can't read cursive (what does that have to do with anything?) is all bull.

It's all half assed shit slinging in a jumbled mess, hopefully the Defense comes out and knocks it out of the park in 5 minutes and takes a seat.

 

[sgrinavi]

Oh I feel I am so right on this one.... it seems like a no-brainer. Hung jury. Does anybody here NOT know how the black community feels about this? I could never see a black jurist EVER supporting acquittal. I will be absolutely shocked if a verdict other than hung jury is reached.

You're probably right. But this isn't about race.... stupid cracker pffft.

 

[BoomerD]

Guilty. Probably not second degree murder, but manslaughter.

 

[Pens1566]

Guilty on lesser charge, manslaughter.

 

[glenn1]

Guility of thugslaughter and wasting our time.

 

[zinfamous]

I see hung jury all the way. There is no way a black jurist would vote to acquit and very unlikely that a white jurist would vote to convict. I am assuming it is a mixed jury so it will be hung.

If it's equally mixed, wouldn't that just make it an average jury?

:sneaky:

Hi-Oh!

 

[Vic Vega]

Not guilty.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Seriously, the pressure on the state is to find him guilty of something. "Child abuse" shows desperation.

We'll see.

 

[lotus503]

I think he gets aquitted, this case has doubt all over it, the states case relies on doubt, I dont think they can sell it. When the trial started I was conviced he would get manslaughter because the jury would buy into his lack of credibility, but since the states case has been a doubt case they will lose it on resonable doubt.

 

[Munky]

If it's anything except acquittal or hung jury, then the justice system in this country is officially f*cked up.

Now, the next question - will white people riot in some prominent city in case GZ is wrongly convicted?

 

[OverVolt]

Manslaughter or Murder 2.

Reason: All girl stacked jury, Zimmerman is not the hottest guy around so I hear. He looks like he has his proverbial tail tucked behind his legs.

I don't think the girl jury will buy his story and they will side with the kid. I don't really know why the jury was stacked like that, or why they didn't try him on the stand your ground law.

But everything points to the courts caving to social pressure and convicting him on murder 2 or manslaughter. Just you guys wait and see.

 

[OverVolt]

Seriously, the pressure on the state is to find him guilty of something. "Child abuse" shows desperation.

We'll see.

They will cave is my bet.

 

[OverVolt]

Not Guilty on all counts, anything else would be a slap to the face of our justice system and quite frankly everyone should be ashamed. This should have never went to trial, and the guy is closing with crap, nothing he is saying as any legal meaning. All of it is basically race baiting or playing on emotion, bringing up Jeantel saying she lied but she did it for a reason and can't read cursive (what does that have to do with anything?) is all bull.

It's all half assed shit slinging in a jumbled mess, hopefully the Defense comes out and knocks it out of the park in 5 minutes and takes a seat.

Thanks for the 15 yr old opinion.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't think they will cave, one of the women had a CCW permit and couple more have family members with guns/CCW.

 

[woolfe9998]

It's going to be a straight acquittal.

 

[woolfe9998]

Until a few days ago I thought since the prosecution didn't have a case GZ would walk, but now that the judge has thrown out even the pretense of being impartial, I'm thinking there's going to be a conviction at any cost.

95% of the time jurors have made up their minds before closing arguments. I haven't followed it that closely, but if the judge is making bad rulings as you claim, Z would have a strong appeal of any conviction. My guess is that you don't really know if the rulings are proper or not. You just don't like them because they go against Z.

 

[SaurusX]

If Casey Anthony can get away with obvious murder (also in Florida might I add), then there's little chance that Zimmerman will be convicted on such weak evidence. There's also the difference that he was protecting himself from a full frontal assault.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

95% of the time jurors have made up their minds before closing arguments.

I was told earlier that that was a crime.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35248239&postcount=64684

And then accused of being hypocritical because I'm a stickler for laws but didn't have any issue with the jury making up their mind before the judge gave them instruction.

 

[Spungo]

I don't actively follow any of this crap so I tried googling facts about the case. Now my opinion is that Zimmerman should shoot all of the people in our media and legal system.

First google result:
http://www.theroot.com/views/zimmerman-trial-trayvons-toxicology-report-allowed

Attorneys for Zimmerman, who is on trial for second-degree murder, are expected to call an expert to testify that the marijuana could have made the 17-year-old more aggressive.

I give up. The media and lawyers are completely hopeless and they need to go. On what planet does marijuana cause violence? This is so stupid that I want to hit something and shoot someone.

 

[corwin]

Not guilty is the only thing supported by the evidence, or lack thereof...possibly a hung jury if a biased juror slipped through:\

 

[Spungo]

I find this tidbit on CNN's fact page a bit disturbing:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/05/us/trayvon-martin-shooting-fast-facts

[judge] Nelson, however, rules that jurors will remain anonymous

Does that mean it's possible for jurors to not be anonymous? Wouldn't that open the door to things like threatening violence against the families of jurors in order to influence the decision?

CNN's page also says the jurors are all female. I'm female and I can't stand arguing with most females. Debating turns into weird, circular, illogical arguments of well yeah it legally counts as assault but he still did nothing wrong and that makes him innocent of assault.

I vote not-guilty for all charges. The women on the jury will agree with the exact laws that he may have broken but still rule that he did not break them.

 

[Icepick]

I see a not guilty verdict in the not-too-distant future. Probably as early as Saturday. He will NOT be found guilty of Murder 2. If, by chance, he is found guilty of manslaughter then I think he can win an appeal.

 

[woolfe9998]

I was told earlier that that was a crime.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35248239&postcount=64684

And then accused of being hypocritical because I'm a stickler for laws but didn't have any issue with the jury making up their mind before the judge gave them instruction.

It's a violation of standard jury instructions, which makes it contempt of court, meaning that technically yes, it is a crime. However, the fact is that they almost always make up their minds before the final jury instruction. It's essentially impossible for jurors to prevent themselves from drawing conclusions until a certain specified time. It just isn't how the human mind works.

 

[Fern]

I believe it should be a straight-up acquittal but if I were GZ I'd be mighty fearful.

I'm afraid that there are those who believe that because a person was killed somebody has to pay. Somebody must bear the responsibility for this and must be punished in some way.

I don't like these so-called "lessor" included offenses for this reason, it's just too easy for a juror to default to one of those. And the fact that the LIO aren't really "lessor" in terms of sentence makes it all the worse.

Furthermore, and as I have mentioned before, this whole case has a very weird vibe to it: It seems that things are backward and the burden is on GZ instead of the prosecution where it belongs.

I voted hung jury.

Fern

 

[Doppel]

Full acquittal.