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waggy

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Thank You :)

& I don't plan on living in it for 5 years.
Fairfax, VA you either are a millionaire or you live paycheck to paycheck saving a little here and there. Never enough to retire comfortably when you are old just enough for a rainy day.
I'll be in Texas in 5 years. Living in my nice house paying little to no mortgage and having a big savings account. Can't wait.

LOL yeah plans always look great. lets see what happens in 5 yrs when reality sets in.

as others said i wouldnt buy witha ARM right now. its just not worth the risk.
 
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Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
Originally posted by: Aimster
Thank You :)

& I don't plan on living in it for 5 years.
Fairfax, VA you either are a millionaire or you live paycheck to paycheck saving a little here and there. Never enough to retire comfortably when you are old just enough for a rainy day.
I'll be in Texas in 5 years. Living in my nice house paying little to no mortgage and having a big savings account. Can't wait.

Your a douche. Good luck selling that house in 5 years. You didn't even know the difference between a ARM and fixed mortgage, but claim you will be living in Texas with an almost paid off house.

You're a douche
 

wiredspider

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The seller does not care if you have a ARM or FRM or your cousin's drug money, as long as you have the money at closing (in form of cashier's check of course).
 

Veramocor

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Fixed is your best bet with rates so low. But if you absolutely need the ARM PentFed has a 5/5 arm. 5 years fixed, then can go up by a max 2%, then fixed for another five years, and then can reset again by a max 2% A lifetime cap of 5% so the rate can never go higher than original rate + 5 and you'd be in your 20th year by then.

Much better deal than a 5/1 arm where your rate could go up 5% more after only 8 years.

 

Bateluer

Lifer
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Dude, get the fixed rate. An ARM is retarded. Even at the best of times, its a poor option.
 

allisolm

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Can I switch this to an ARM at the time of closing

You're getting upset with people who don't think you know what you're doing but, I'm sorry, it doesn't sound like you even know what happens at closing. That's when you sign all the documents that make you the owner. That includes the mortgage documents which will already have been prepared with all the particulars for your situation. You won't be able to waltz into closing and ask for an entirely different kind of mortgage which would have entirely different terms, rates, payments, amortization schedules, etc. All that will have to have been decided before closing or you won't BE closing.

Psst - even your lender is trying to tell you to get a fixed rate rather than an ARM. :)
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Thank You :)

& I don't plan on living in it for 5 years.
Fairfax, VA you either are a millionaire or you live paycheck to paycheck saving a little here and there. Never enough to retire comfortably when you are old just enough for a rainy day.
I'll be in Texas in 5 years. Living in my nice house paying little to no mortgage and having a big savings account. Can't wait.

Honestly, if you know you're going to bail in <5 years, I would't even bother buying. While the market will eventually recover, it's not going to be a boom like the early 00s. You're going to have to make a down payment and closing costs, in only five years you might only break even.

And what if your plans change or you can't sell the townhouse when it's time to movie to Texas. I say stick to renting and buy when you're ready to settle down.
 

Capt Caveman

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If you're moving in 5 years, continue renting. Your house won't appreciate enough to cover your selling costs, if you're even able to sell in the time frame you need to be able to buy in Texas.
 

Aimster

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ok so I'll go the fixed rate route but I rather go the FHA route now that every single person here has said ARM is stupid. This is what happens when u post on ATOT....

I submit my offer to the seller, seller accepts

After this I go to my bank and I get the mortgage application started, correct? That is when I can tell the lender I want to do FHA rather than fixed.
Correct?

I really wanted to do ARM. I never thought about it but I had an FHA loan set to go at 4.5% then it jumped to 5.5% in a week :-\. So I wanted to keep my calculations steady so I went with the ARM route.
 

RaistlinZ

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Originally posted by: Aimster
ok so I'll go the fixed rate route but I rather go the FHA route now that every single person here has said ARM is stupid. This is what happens when u post on ATOT....

I submit my offer to the seller, seller accepts

After this I go to my bank and I get the mortgage application started, correct? That is when I can tell the lender I want to do FHA rather than fixed.
Correct?

I really wanted to do ARM. I never thought about it but I had an FHA loan set to go at 4.5% then it jumped to 5.5% in a week :-\. So I wanted to keep my calculations steady so I went with the ARM route.

/facepalm

I had such high hopes that our housing market would recover. Now I'm starting to think otherwise.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: Aimster
ok so I'll go the fixed rate route but I rather go the FHA route now that every single person here has said ARM is stupid. This is what happens when u post on ATOT....

I submit my offer to the seller, seller accepts

After this I go to my bank and I get the mortgage application started, correct? That is when I can tell the lender I want to do FHA rather than fixed.
Correct?

I really wanted to do ARM. I never thought about it but I had an FHA loan set to go at 4.5% then it jumped to 5.5% in a week :-\. So I wanted to keep my calculations steady so I went with the ARM route.

/facepalm

I had such high hopes that our housing market would recover. Now I'm starting to think otherwise.

I am not buying an overpriced home!!!

Why can't anyone answer my question??? Grrr
 

rgwalt

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Apr 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Thank You :)

& I don't plan on living in it for 5 years.
Fairfax, VA you either are a millionaire or you live paycheck to paycheck saving a little here and there. Never enough to retire comfortably when you are old just enough for a rainy day.
I'll be in Texas in 5 years. Living in my nice house paying little to no mortgage and having a big savings account. Can't wait.

Aimster- What leads you to think that you'll be in Texas in 5 years? Who do you work for? The reason I ask is that I'm in Houston, and I could very well be in Fairfax in 5 years...

If you haven't done the research yet, keep in mind that ARMs come in various "flavors". By this I mean that different ARMs have different time periods over which you will be locked in, and different time periods over which they will adjust. Finally, they can have "rate of change" limits on the interest rate (in terms of how quickly it can increase or decrease), as well as a final maximum rate cap.

For example, a 3-1 ARM can begin to adjust after 3 years, and can adjust every year after that. It may have a maximum readjustment amount of, say, 1% with a maximum readjustment cap of 5% above your current rate. This would mean that in year 4 your rate could increase from 4.25 to 5.25, and over the course of the loan could max out at 9.25% (yikes!). Of course you would need to iron out all these numbers with your lender.

As far as how the preapproval letter works, it doesn't really matter. The pre-approval letter lets the seller know that you have a bank willing to loan you enough money to buy the house. They don't really care what type of loan it is.

After your offer is accepted and you are under contract, you will go through a much more rigorous loan approval process with your lender/bank. You can change your loan type at that time with your lender. Keep in mind that FHA loans have quite a few more "hoops" that they will make you and the seller jump through to get the loan. Google FHA loan requirements to learn more about these. Lots of inspections...

As a part of your contract that you will draw up you will need to put up earest money that will be held by an escrow company. This earnest money is typically 1% of the agreed upon sales price of the property, and it will be credited to you upon closing. However, make sure that you include a financing clause in the contract. The financing clause will give you a certain period of time after you are under contract (2 weeks, 20 days, whatever you specify and the seller agrees to) in which you have time to secure the necessary financing. If the bank will not give you financing for whatever reason (say the appraisal of the property comes back at a lower value than the agreed upon sales price), then the financing clause allows you to recover your earnest money and walk away from the deal. If you don't have this clause or the financing falls through, then you would lose the earnest money.

Typically with a contract on a home you will also pay an "option" fee. I don't know what that will run you in FFX. In Houston I paid $10 a day for a minimum of 10 days. This gives you time to get a home inspection (you absolutely must do this). The money you pay for the option gives you the unrestricted right to walk away and recover your earnest money during the option period. If the sale goes through, the earnest money is credited to you at closing.

Finally, I don't know how this works in VA, but in TX we use "title" companies that will do the necessary research to make sure the property has a clear deed. In other parts of the country you need to go through a real estate lawyer. Either way, the title company or the lawyer will make sure that no one has a lein or other claim on the property that you are trying to buy. In TX, the title company "insures" the clear title to the property in the loan amount. This means that if the title company somehow "missed" a lein or other claim on the deed, they would have to pay to clear the claim or pay the loan amount in full. (there may be additional details I am missing here, but in any case you need to make sure that you hire someone that will clear the title, this is standard practice).

Hopefully you are working with a real estate agent who will help guide you through this process and will help in drawing up the contracts. Feel free to reply or PM with additonal questions. I just bought a home down here in Houston in February, so I'm very familar with the process.

 

wiredspider

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Jun 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: Aimster
ok so I'll go the fixed rate route but I rather go the FHA route now that every single person here has said ARM is stupid. This is what happens when u post on ATOT....

I submit my offer to the seller, seller accepts

After this I go to my bank and I get the mortgage application started, correct? That is when I can tell the lender I want to do FHA rather than fixed.
Correct?

I really wanted to do ARM. I never thought about it but I had an FHA loan set to go at 4.5% then it jumped to 5.5% in a week :-\. So I wanted to keep my calculations steady so I went with the ARM route.

/facepalm

I had such high hopes that our housing market would recover. Now I'm starting to think otherwise.

I am not buying an overpriced home!!!

Why can't anyone answer my question??? Grrr

If the seller accepts, they DO NOT CARE where your money is coming from. As long as you have the money at closing. The bank should be able to tell you what mortgage/loan options you have. I would do it after the seller accepts, otherwise there isn't really a point..
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Yes, you can switch it up until the point docs are drawn.

But not keep the lock.

If the OP is locked at 30 fixed, and decides later he wants an ARM, he has to re-lock for the ARM at market pricing.

I only bring this up because rates have jumped about 1 full percent in the past 2 weeks. Disregard if the OP hadn't locked at all.

edit: BTW, FHA ARMs (acronym overkill) generally aren't that bad. They're usually not discounted (meaning the initial rate is comparable to the fully indexed rate at current pricing), and they can even adjust downwards. The only reason I would dissuade anyone from one now is that I believe rates are headed up long term, and any ARM is going to be subject to market conditions. While with a fixed, you're getting today's relatively low pricing for the life of the loan. And quite frankly, buyers should be thinking long-term in this market IMO.
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Aimster
ok so I'll go the fixed rate route but I rather go the FHA route now that every single person here has said ARM is stupid. This is what happens when u post on ATOT....

I submit my offer to the seller, seller accepts

After this I go to my bank and I get the mortgage application started, correct? That is when I can tell the lender I want to do FHA rather than fixed.
Correct?

I really wanted to do ARM. I never thought about it but I had an FHA loan set to go at 4.5% then it jumped to 5.5% in a week :-\. So I wanted to keep my calculations steady so I went with the ARM route.

FHA is a loan program. The loans under that program can be fixed or adjustable.