Powerlifter Brandon Lilly breaks knee during 750lb squat

[SP33Demon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TAAxwDFI1A

"As of right now without surgery I'd never walk again as I sheared my ACL, meniscus, patella, tore both quad tendons, and MCL in both knees and the knee cap in my left knee will be replaced. I go in for surgery in 10-15 minutes".

Sucks because I've seen Lilly lift 750 RAW before so it wasn't like this was some obscene weight for him.

One thing to be cognizant of is that an injury like this can happen at any moment in powerlifting and we are taking risks every day. It can be over at any moment. Lilly loved to add a lot of volume to his regimen and that's the only thing I can think of that would have caused his knees to fail like that. Or maybe it's just like RBs in the NFL, eventually you will get hurt and when you do, it's just a matter of the severity. We celebrate guys who push their bodies to the limit, but there are no guarantees in powerlifting. I'm about 3 months off from shattering a state record and may even go to Nationals someday but I am not ignorant enough to think that it couldn't all be over once my (unknown) genetic limit cries "uncle".

 

[Carfax83]

I don't know anything about that guy, but a lot of power lifters use drugs that increase muscle mass, at the expense of their cartilage strength and collagen turnover.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I don't know anything about that guy, but a lot of power lifters use drugs that increase muscle mass, at the expense of their cartilage strength and collagen turnover.

You reliably post the dumbest thing in every thread.

 

[michal1980]

wait, I though bad stuff only happened to crossfitters, and that body builders did everything perfectly.

/S

 

[Koing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TAAxwDFI1A

"As of right now without surgery I'd never walk again as I sheared my ACL, meniscus, patella, tore both quad tendons, and MCL in both knees and the knee cap in my left knee will be replaced. I go in for surgery in 10-15 minutes".

Sucks because I've seen Lilly lift 750 RAW before so it wasn't like this was some obscene weight for him.

One thing to be cognizant of is that an injury like this can happen at any moment in powerlifting and we are taking risks every day. It can be over at any moment. Lilly loved to add a lot of volume to his regimen and that's the only thing I can think of that would have caused his knees to fail like that. Or maybe it's just like RBs in the NFL, eventually you will get hurt and when you do, it's just a matter of the severity. We celebrate guys who push their bodies to the limit, but there are no guarantees in powerlifting. I'm about 3 months off from shattering a state record and may even go to Nationals someday but I am not ignorant enough to think that it couldn't all be over once my (unknown) genetic limit cries "uncle".

OMG that looked horrible

I wish the guy to a speedy recovery.

When you push the limits injuries can happen. If you don't want to push the limits that is fine as well but I couldn't train like that. I'm 30 and hammered it for the past 14.5yrs

Koing

 

[iluvdeal]

After seeing this and the injury to Kevin Ogar, these competition really need to think about utilizing some safety mechanism as stuff like this could have been prevented, reliance on human spotters isn't foolproof enough.

 

[Carfax83]

You reliably post the dumbest thing in every thread.

So AAS does not impact the health and durability of cartilage. Silly me..

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Do I want to see this failed lift or should I just leave it at what Koing said ... "OMG that looked horrible "

 

[surfsatwerk]

So AAS does not impact the health and durability of cartilage. Silly me..

Just shut up.

 

[Nebor]

wait, I though bad stuff only happened to crossfitters, and that body builders did everything perfectly.

/S

Word on some of the body building forums is that this guy had been "experimenting" with crossfit, and had high-repped his knee out prior to this 750lb squat.

 

[Carfax83]

Just shut up.

You shut up. Damn worthless troll..

 

[iluvdeal]

Word on some of the body building forums is that this guy had been "experimenting" with crossfit, and had high-repped his knee out prior to this 750lb squat.

It seems the lifting community's version of the "Thanks Obama" meme is to blame everything on Crossfit.

 

[michal1980]

It seems the lifting community's version of the "Thanks Obama" meme is to blame everything on Crossfit.

Its bush's fault. .


the human spotters seem stupid at some point.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

You reliably post the dumbest thing in every thread.

To be honest, this actually has merit. Utilization of anabolic steroids significantly reduces tendon strength and passive connective tissue resilience.

 

[surfsatwerk]

To be honest, this actually has merit. Utilization of anabolic steroids significantly reduces tendon strength and passive connective tissue resilience.

And the evidence that this is what caused his injury? The dipshit likes to come into threads and slime people.

Edit: No offense intended toward you SC. I'm not debating the factual merit of the statement, just the stupid, in my opinion, way it was applied in this situation.




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esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[Zivic]

To be honest, this actually has merit. Utilization of anabolic steroids significantly reduces tendon strength and passive connective tissue resilience.

In the general population getting it prescribed from a doctor? or in a powerlifter that is using black market gear among other things?

shit just happens. I saw the vid he could have lost focus for split second and with that amount of weight, things go bad very quickly.

what I want to know is why didn't we get the vid from the guy in the white? at least he knows how to hold the damn phone while recording video

 

[Carfax83]

And the evidence that this is what caused his injury? The dipshit likes to come into threads and slime people.

Edit: No offense intended toward you SC. I'm not debating the factual merit of the statement, just the stupid, in my opinion, way it was applied in this situation.

You illiterate fucking idiot. I implied in my post that I wasn't accusing him directly of taking AAS when I said, "I don't know anything about that guy."

It was a general statement I made, and could be one explanation out of many as the OP stated he had seen him handle that weight before with no assistance, and that's a terrible injury to sustain given the circumstances.

I never explicitly stated that Brandon Lily was using AAS at any time.

Learn to read dumb fuck. You should change your handle to jerksatwerk, as you clearly have nothing better to do than to troll forum threads and purposely twist the meaning of other peoples' statements.




In no way can you attack the poster in this manner, on this forum.

If you cannot keep your wits about you and find a proper way to express yourself, stay out of the thread.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[surfsatwerk]

You illiterate fucking idiot. I implied in my post that I wasn't accusing him directly of taking AAS when I said, "I don't know anything about that guy."

It was a general statement I made, and could be one explanation out of many as the OP stated he had seen him handle that weight before with no assistance, and that's a terrible injury to sustain given the circumstances.

I never explicitly stated that Brandon Lily was using AAS at any time.

Learn to read dumb fuck. You should change your handle to jerksatwerk, as you clearly have nothing better to do than to troll forum threads and purposely twist the meaning of other peoples' statements.

So you agree your post was stupid. Glad we cleared that up.

 

[Carfax83]

So you agree your post was stupid. Glad we cleared that up.

I said nothing of the sort. I agreed that you are an illiterate troll that cannot comprehend basic English, as this post of your clearly shows.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

And the evidence that this is what caused his injury? The dipshit likes to come into threads and slime people.

Edit: No offense intended toward you SC. I'm not debating the factual merit of the statement, just the stupid, in my opinion, way it was applied in this situation.

The evidence is that, unfortunately the world of powerlifting is notoriously tainted with anabolic steroid use to the excess. If you go to a meet and talk to people off the record, most guys will open up about it. Some will deny, deny, deny, but unfortunately, you don't usually get to a 750lb squat without some help. That's not to say these guys aren't incredible athletes... it's just pretty much an assumption that they're juicing. I say this coming from experience with powerlifting and some guys lifting huge weight competitively.

I didn't realize the author of the post until I read a few threads, so I get what you're saying.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

In the general population getting it prescribed from a doctor? or in a powerlifter that is using black market gear among other things?

shit just happens. I saw the vid he could have lost focus for split second and with that amount of weight, things go bad very quickly.

what I want to know is why didn't we get the vid from the guy in the white? at least he knows how to hold the damn phone while recording video

In all populations utilizing anabolic steroids. The general population tends to use lower doses and, as such, has noticeably lower incidence of side effects. The higher the dose, whether it's on or off-cycle, the more like you are to rupture a tendon.

Just watched the video and something was off. If you think about it, he has back squatted thousands of times. Why would something like that happen to his knee this time? My guess is that something blew while he actually was in good alignment, which resulted in the valgus stress, causing everything else to go. Either that or it was a very odd fluke.

 

[SP33Demon]

The evidence is that, unfortunately the world of powerlifting is notoriously tainted with anabolic steroid use to the excess. If you go to a meet and talk to people off the record, most guys will open up about it. Some will deny, deny, deny, but unfortunately, you don't usually get to a 750lb squat without some help. That's not to say these guys aren't incredible athletes... it's just pretty much an assumption that they're juicing. I say this coming from experience with powerlifting and some guys lifting huge weight competitively.

I didn't realize the author of the post until I read a few threads, so I get what you're saying.

Yep, unfortunately powerlifting does get a bad rep for roids but things are changing. Many organizations are seeing the writing on the wall and we are seeing more and more federations test. Some of the more popular ones in my area (USAPL, 100% RAW) are tested and some even use the IOC to test so you know it's serious. Some even add polygraphs if you claim to be a lifetime drug free lifter (WNPL).

 

[Insomniator]

Whats the realistic weight limit of a non-juiced totally natural human being anyway? Or even a totally roided out person?

750lb's is a ridiculous amount of weight. Hell I'm nervous squatting 225 though I'm by no means a great athlete.

I'm just thinking... it can't be unlimited. Do tendons strengthen at the same rate as muscles? Its not like we have screws drilled through our joints keeping everything secure... its little pieces of flesh.

 

[Zivic]

Whats the realistic weight limit of a non-juiced totally natural human being anyway? Or even a totally roided out person?

750lb's is a ridiculous amount of weight. Hell I'm nervous squatting 225 though I'm by no means a great athlete.

I'm just thinking... it can't be unlimited. Do tendons strengthen at the same rate as muscles? Its not like we have screws drilled through our joints keeping everything secure... its little pieces of flesh.

750 can be done naturally.

 

[classy]

You reliably post the dumbest thing in every thread.

LOL