So, the 10.4.11 install plus Office 2008 is only 7.x GB big. Impressively small footprint. The complete install can fit on a single dual-layer DVD-R. In fact, I think I'll do that: Make a disk image of the install, save it on DVD-R, and store it away as a secondary backup in case my hard drive backup dies eventually. The iMac with 10.4.11 also seems faster, likely because it seems to need less memory overall for the OS and Safari and so it does page out as much. Yeah it was a big annoyance to me that they dropped it in the Airs and the Alu MacBook. That, and the fact that the entry level model didn't have a backlit keyboard is why I didn't buy that 13" MacBook. I'm glad I waited because for the subsequent model they reintroduced Firewire, called it Pro, and made the backlit keyboard standard. That Thunderbolt brings target mode back is great, but neither my 13" Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro (2009) nor my 17" Core i7 iMac (2010) have it unfortunately. At least they can boot off USB though, something my Win 7 machines can't do. It's really annoying. They're all working, although the iMac has a some stuck pixels. All of them have had some work done though. Cubes are heavily updated and even the iBook has had its screen replaced (when it was actually worth something) and the HD replaced (by me - what a PITA). The iMac has a replaced drive (another PITA but not as bad as the iBook), and a memory upgrade. Yep. Even my GeForce 6200 works like that. This is one big reason I have so many Macs. It's saved my ass a few times.