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iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: LinuxIdiot
Grrr why the hell do they need to use .ram would of course be the one file format my work computer cant use :|

msnbc is using a wmv.
 

PG

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Oct 25, 1999
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Originally posted by: Czar
I think the best next step would be to use US intelegence along with UK, France and whatever networks are watching Iraq and have them directly informing the inspectors, then put an armed escourt with the inspectors then do everything possible to catch them red handed. That would probably be the best move to convince the world.
Good lord, you still aren't convinced?
It's almost impossible to fully catch them because their labs are so mobile and they are watching the inspectors. Iraq can see them coming and move things ahead of time.



 

wyvrn

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Feb 15, 2000
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Iraq is already in breach of UN resolution 1441. It is clear they are hiding something. The evidence points to chemical weapons (the decontamination trucks, guards monitoring chem weapon sites, intercepted communications). It is also clear they severely restrict their officials from interviews, threaten to treat them as spies if they talk outside of Iraqi presence, and have basically prevented U2 monitoring flights by not guaranteeing they won't be shot down. If Iraq was clearly in compliance, why would they go to such measures? The burden of proof rested with Iraq, by the way the resolution was written. Their non-compliance is in itself a breech of Article 4 of the resolution. In my mind there is absolutely no doubt they are guilty of developing chemical and nuclear weapons. We just have to keep monitoring them to get the conclusive proof that the most thick-headed anti-war advocates are going to require.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: PG
Originally posted by: Czar
I think the best next step would be to use US intelegence along with UK, France and whatever networks are watching Iraq and have them directly informing the inspectors, then put an armed escourt with the inspectors then do everything possible to catch them red handed. That would probably be the best move to convince the world.
Good lord, you still aren't convinced?
It's almost impossible to fully catch them because their labs are so mobile and they are watching the inspectors. Iraq can see them coming and move things ahead of time.

I think Czar is correct on this one. We need someone else to back up our information.
 

LinuxIdiot

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May 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: LinuxIdiot
Grrr why the hell do they need to use .ram would of course be the one file format my work computer cant use :|

msnbc is using a wmv.

great and i cant play that either must be getting bombarded
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: PG
Originally posted by: Czar I think the best next step would be to use US intelegence along with UK, France and whatever networks are watching Iraq and have them directly informing the inspectors, then put an armed escourt with the inspectors then do everything possible to catch them red handed. That would probably be the best move to convince the world.
Good lord, you still aren't convinced? It's almost impossible to fully catch them because their labs are so mobile and they are watching the inspectors. Iraq can see them coming and move things ahead of time.
Convinced that there is an urgent need for war? I don't think this speech depolarizes the 2 sides at all. Lots of conjecture, and while theres credible evidence they are deceptive, it doesn't underscore the urgent need for war as an only solution, imo.
 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: PG
Originally posted by: Czar
I think the best next step would be to use US intelegence along with UK, France and whatever networks are watching Iraq and have them directly informing the inspectors, then put an armed escourt with the inspectors then do everything possible to catch them red handed. That would probably be the best move to convince the world.
Good lord, you still aren't convinced?
It's almost impossible to fully catch them because their labs are so mobile and they are watching the inspectors. Iraq can see them coming and move things ahead of time.
I still havent seen any of the images, but if that would happen then the inspectors should be able to move and intercept the labs according to information they would get from US intelegence.
 

rahvin

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Czar
I think the best next step would be to use US intelegence along with UK, France and whatever networks are watching Iraq and have them directly informing the inspectors, then put an armed escourt with the inspectors then do everything possible to catch them red handed. That would probably be the best move to convince the world.

Putting armed troops on the ground in a foreign country is called war. Considering the fact that Iraq has had this policy of non cooperation for a decade I have to wonder why you think anything is going to be successful?

Honestly, if you accept the evidence presented that Iraq is not cooperating with the inspections then what can be done to disarm them? The disarming has to be voluntary, the inspections are simply to verify that it has occured.
 

Judgement

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Feb 8, 2001
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I'm glad proof has been put on the table, I'm sick of hearing from people who didn't want to act because they saw no proof.

It felt like half the country was brainwashed by Saddam into thinking he wasn't cooperating with the UN, but that didn't mean he was a bad guy trying to build weapons to kill people.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Looks of tastey info. Anyone else get the impression that POwell didn't practice this speech? He's misspeaking frequently. Perhaps he's just tired.
 

LinuxIdiot

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May 20, 2002
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I would respond to your thought but I cant view the video due to the evilness that is realplayer and i cant get it on msnbc :( ok Im off to cry now
 

Dedpuhl

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Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: LinuxIdiot
I would respond to your thought but I cant view the video due to the evilness that is realplayer and i cant get it on msnbc :( ok Im off to cry now

yeah..all the sites are getting slammed. :(

 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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LOL! My CNN was just interrupted by the emergency alert system.

EDIT: It was just a test, as usual
 

dabuddha

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i fear jjsole is one of those people that resist war until its too late then cries about why we didn't do anything.
it's clear the man is a liar and he's violated resolution 1441.
take him out now before it just gets worse
if the man has vx gas and anthrax up the butt, imagine what'd happen if he unleashed it on all of our major cities.
cause i'm pretty sure those would be the primary targets
don't try to fool yourself, we are at war. denying it just delays the inevitable.

and do remember this, our leaders have MORE information than you do so they are in a better position to make decisions regarding the situation
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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After gw's militancy during his term, it will be a long time before the US votes for a former military general to represent the country.
 

tk149

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Apr 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: jjsole
After gw's militancy during his term, it will be a long time before the US votes for a former military general to represent the country.

George Washington?
 

Czar

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: jjsole
After gw's militancy during his term, it will be a long time before the US votes for a former military general to represent the country.

very likely, people always think the grass is greener on the other side of the river ;)
 

achiral

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Apr 10, 2000
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who's being militant? two planes hit the world trade center, what did you ecpect him to do, go suck the taliban off? people like you need to be taken out back and get a little "education"