Powell calls some pre-war WMD info "deliberately misleading"

[Codec]

On Meet the Press (episode when press aid tried to stop the interview, though to me it seemed this happened before the question was finished):

"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said, appearing on NBC's Meet the Press program.

"For that I am disappointed, and I regret it."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/17/international/middleeast/17POWE.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1110149.htm

 

[lozina]

On Sunday, Mr. Powell hinted at widespread reports of fabrications by an engineer who provided much of the most critical information about the labs. Intelligence officials have since found that the engineer was linked to the Iraqi National Congress, an exile group that was pressing President Bush to unseat Mr. Hussein.

what, the defectors have a ulterior motive involving some agenda of power grab? Who'd a thunk it!

That was a sharp contrast to comments four months ago by Vice President Dick Cheney, who said the administration still believed that the trailers were part of a program of unconventional weapons, and added that he "would deem that conclusive evidence" that Mr. Hussein in fact had such programs.

poor 'ol Dick, he just goes on and on with his fantasies like the Energizer Bunny. I bet he'll still content those mobile labs exist somewhere in Iraq.

 

[tallest1]

Its funny how the conservatives here stopped supporting people like Powell and McCain the moment it became clear they wanted the facts

 

[Zebo]

Someones gonna be pushing a book.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Someones gonna be pushing a book.

Oh...Powell's just a disgruntled employee.

 

[arsbanned]

Oh but wait, HS claims they foudn the WMDs! SO all is forgiven. :disgust:

 

[Codec]

I think Powell just realizes that he blew it on this issue, and wants to set the record straight. From the NYT:

"Basically, Powell now believes that the Iraqis had chemical weapons, and that was it," said an official close to him. "And he is out there publicly saying this now because he doesn't want a legacy as the man who made up stories to provide the president with cover to go to war."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/17/international/middleeast/17POWE.html

A Powell/McCain ticket would win in a landslide in November. Maybe in 2008.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I think you cheerleaders are overblowing what was said. But sure, whatever, support a Republican. Both McCain and Powell are supporting Bush. Heck, McCain is even campaigning for him.

It's fun to see you all latch on when it's politically convenient though

CkG

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Codec
"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said, appearing on NBC's Meet the Press program.

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I think you cheerleaders are overblowing what was said.

C'mon Cad, who "overblew" Powell's admission here, and how? Please show us. You can do it. There are only 7 posts to look through. Please back up your statement, or retract it.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Codec
"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said, appearing on NBC's Meet the Press program.

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I think you cheerleaders are overblowing what was said.

C'mon Cad, who "overblew" Powell's admission here, and how? Please show us. You can do it. There are only 7 posts to look through. Please back up your statement, or retract it.

Yes, the drool is making the floor slippery. Codec brought this to a new thread because he couldn't make it stick in a different one.

CkG

 

[Codec]

Stick? The issue was mentioned in passing in the "Bush Lies?" thread. This is certainly important news in itself, and deserves its own thread. If not, the mods can lock the topic if they deem it inappropriate or against forum rules.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Codec
"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said, appearing on NBC's Meet the Press program.

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I think you cheerleaders are overblowing what was said.

C'mon Cad, who "overblew" Powell's admission here, and how? Please show us. You can do it. There are only 7 posts to look through. Please back up your statement, or retract it.

Yes, the drool is making the floor slippery. Codec brought this to a new thread because he couldn't make it stick in a different one.

CkG

AHAHAHAHAHA: Drool, floor -- that's pretty darn witty, CAD!

Still, new thread or no, what's NOT to make stick, and what, in your opinion has anyone in this thread said about it that's overblown.

"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said . . ."

The above seems a straightforward and damning admission, CAD. Would you please now address the quote? Try not to sidestep it, please.

 

[Codec]

I'm not sure what the issue is -- Powell stated what he now knows, how that differs from what he earlier believed, and how the erroneous information appeared.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

CAD should be on Soul Train with all the side-stepping and jiving that he does.

 

[Siddhartha]

I hope GWB et al are not "misled" into invading another country. How can anyone trust these people to run the country now? They have got to go!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I hope GWB et al are not "misled" into invading another country. How can anyone trust these people to run the country now? They have got to go!

Hey if CAD & Co manage to re-elect him then at least they could do is invade Saudi Arabia where the real Oil is and the real home of Bin Laden.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
CAD should be on Soul Train with all the side-stepping and jiving that he does.

:thumbsup: Classic

Great for sig material

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
CAD should be on Soul Train with all the side-stepping and jiving that he does.

*cookie*

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Codec
"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said, appearing on NBC's Meet the Press program.

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I think you cheerleaders are overblowing what was said.

C'mon Cad, who "overblew" Powell's admission here, and how? Please show us. You can do it. There are only 7 posts to look through. Please back up your statement, or retract it.

Yes, the drool is making the floor slippery. Codec brought this to a new thread because he couldn't make it stick in a different one.

CkG

AHAHAHAHAHA: Drool, floor -- that's pretty darn witty, CAD!

Still, new thread or no, what's NOT to make stick, and what, in your opinion has anyone in this thread said about it that's overblown.

"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said . . ."

The above seems a straightforward and damning admission, CAD. Would you please now address the quote? Try not to sidestep it, please.

Well, for one the anti-bush people here are trying to herald this as some sort of "gotcha" which it clearly isn't. It is nothing more than a public statement that a source gave misleading(and in Powell's opinion "deliberately misleading") information to our intelligence agencies. The anti-bush folks seem to be reading this as the Administration gave "deliberately misleading" info - but that wasn't the case. The info may have been wrong but the the deliberately misleading portion is about the source - not the Admin.
So yes, this statement by Powell is being twisted by the left here to mean something more than it was.

Find a new stance yet Perk?

CkG

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Codec
"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said, appearing on NBC's Meet the Press program.

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I think you cheerleaders are overblowing what was said.

C'mon Cad, who "overblew" Powell's admission here, and how? Please show us. You can do it. There are only 7 posts to look through. Please back up your statement, or retract it.

Yes, the drool is making the floor slippery. Codec brought this to a new thread because he couldn't make it stick in a different one.

CkG

AHAHAHAHAHA: Drool, floor -- that's pretty darn witty, CAD!

Still, new thread or no, what's NOT to make stick, and what, in your opinion has anyone in this thread said about it that's overblown.

"It turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading," Mr Powell said . . ."

The above seems a straightforward and damning admission, CAD. Would you please now address the quote? Try not to sidestep it, please.

Well, for one the anti-bush people here are trying to herald this as some sort of "gotcha" which it clearly isn't. It is nothing more than a public statement that a source gave misleading(and in Powell's opinion "deliberately misleading") information to our intelligence agencies. The anti-bush folks seem to be reading this as the Administration gave "deliberately misleading" info - but that wasn't the case. The info may have been wrong but the the deliberately misleading portion is about the source - not the Admin.
So yes, this statement by Powell is being twisted by the left here to mean something more than it was.

Find a new stance yet Perk?

CkG

So instead of being deceitful they were just incompetent?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I think you cheerleaders are overblowing what was said. But sure, whatever, support a Republican. Both McCain and Powell are supporting Bush. Heck, McCain is even campaigning for him.

It's fun to see you all latch on when it's politically convenient though

CkG

Who's latching on to anything?

Many of us long respected Powell before he became a lap-dog of Bush, a facade of diplomacy. And, I wanted McCain to get the nomination in 2000. I'd love to see the GOP toss Bush aside and nominate McCain at the convention!

 

[Perknose]

Well, for one the anti-bush people here are trying to herald this as some sort of "gotcha" which it clearly isn't. It is nothing more than a public statement that a source gave misleading(and in Powell's opinion "deliberately misleading") information to our intelligence agencies. The anti-bush folks seem to be reading this as the Administration gave "deliberately misleading" info - but that wasn't the case. The info may have been wrong but the the deliberately misleading portion is about the source - not the Admin.
So yes, this statement by Powell is being twisted by the left here to mean something more than it was.

WHO in this thread said the Administration gave deliberately misleading info? No one, that I can see.

Please show us the quote that backs up your claim, CAD. If you cannot, then please admit you were wrong. There is no shame in admitting you were wrong, only honor. If you can prove me wrong, I will gladly admit it here. Will you?

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Well, for one the anti-bush people here are trying to herald this as some sort of "gotcha" which it clearly isn't. It is nothing more than a public statement that a source gave misleading(and in Powell's opinion "deliberately misleading") information to our intelligence agencies. The anti-bush folks seem to be reading this as the Administration gave "deliberately misleading" info - but that wasn't the case. The info may have been wrong but the the deliberately misleading portion is about the source - not the Admin.
So yes, this statement by Powell is being twisted by the left here to mean something more than it was.

WHO in this thread said the Administration gave deliberately misleading info? No one, that I can see.

Please show us the quote that backs up your claim, CAD. If you cannot, then please admit you were wrong. There is no shame in admitting you were wrong, only honor. If you can prove me wrong, I will gladly admit it here. Will you?

The shame is that he slipped that part out because it is what he secretly fears?

Zephyr

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Well, for one the anti-bush people here are trying to herald this as some sort of "gotcha" which it clearly isn't. It is nothing more than a public statement that a source gave misleading(and in Powell's opinion "deliberately misleading") information to our intelligence agencies. The anti-bush folks seem to be reading this as the Administration gave "deliberately misleading" info - but that wasn't the case. The info may have been wrong but the the deliberately misleading portion is about the source - not the Admin.
So yes, this statement by Powell is being twisted by the left here to mean something more than it was.

Find a new stance yet Perk?

CkG

It's funny Cad, how nobody except for yourself made that leap. Interesting. Yes, very interesting. Perhaps you only hear what you want to hear?

Your homework for today is to go back and re-read those posts prior to your own and tell us all how Powell's statement was connected to the administration "deliberately misleading" the American people.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I did NOT say people in this thread were the ones who led to that conclusion and who prompted my post. The other thread that had some discussion on this topic had replies that seemed to take Powell's statements for more than they were - and then this thread popped up - posted by the one who seemed to take it out of context in the other thread. It seems he was trying to make a bigger point out of this than what was there. With all the context problems people seem to be having lately this wouldn't be being discussed right now. Putting Powells comments in the correct context is essential - otherwise people will take them and run like I said.

If you all don't read that "as the Administration gave "deliberately misleading" info" - then I will recind the accusation but for some reason I think some here were trying to led people to that So as you wish, I will apologize to those who did not attempt to do as I suggested.

Is everyone happy yet?

CkG