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[John P]

How many posts does it take Anandtecher's to not really answer a question that could be answered in 2 sentences.

 

[DocDoo]

Legally, what you are wanting to do was never acceptable. In Windows XP (and Office) they are now enforcing that through its WPA (Windows Product Activation).

I am not saying its not "possible" but that would be illegal!!

FWIW: I think it one should be allowed to install XP on at least (1) desktop and (1) laptop, legally. Since most people that have both rarely use both at the same time.

 

[John P]

Ummm, hi.

 

[Nothinman]

I am totally against software "sharing" but I don't think Microsoft really cares all that much if you are installing it more than once on your own machines

If they didn't care they wouldn't have gone through the trouble to implement WPA. If you made your money off of software, I think you'd have a different view of people "sharing" it.

 

[crapyking]

cant do it unless you have a copy of the corp. version w/ license.I got a copy & was not required to register it.

 

[Psychoholic]

<< I know it's really not "legal", but will the software actually let you do it? I am totally against software "sharing" >>


Of course you're against software "sharing"... <rolleyes>



<< Will I be able to buy just one copy and legally install in on all 5 machines or not?? >>


Yes you can. It's called the corporate copy, and you'll get a minimum of 5 licenses.

If you have the money to have 5 computers with good enough hardware to run XP why not do the right thing and pay for the hardware??? What if you had to work for free??? If you don't want to pay for the OS there are free alternatives out there.

 

[John P]

You guys rock.

 

[IBuyUFO]

I think the FBI will bust down your door and take your away in handcuffs. Or maybe microsoft will give you a prize for having the balls to activate 1 copy of windows xp in 5 computers.

 

[John P]

Hope the bowl games on tv today are good.

 

[KnickNut3]

I think when Microsoft gets to that lovely part of the installation when it requires you to log your stuff in (isn't that wonderful, an OS that requires internet access?) it will tell you that code has already been used, and stop the installation and leave you with a formatted machine with a half installed OS on it.

Bottom line - MS decides for you that you need to give them a $1000 payday when you want to upgrade .

Heh. Good luck. I wouldn't do it, but MS doesn't give you many options. They wonder why many do it illegally.

 

[Psychoholic]

<< I did not realize there was a "corporate version", how much more does it cost? >>


The licenses were around 160.00 each last time I made a purchase. Minimum of 5. The media was 20.00.



<< Sorry, but I'm none of those. So, by rule of exclusivity I should be able to install one copy on all my own "personal" machines according to Microsoft >>



Maybe you need to read the EULA then, I've provided it below.



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So no, you don't have a rule of exclusivity.

 

[Psychoholic]

KnickNut3


<< I think when Microsoft gets to that lovely part of the installation when it requires you to log your stuff in (isn't that wonderful, an OS that requires internet access?) it will tell you that code has already been used, and stop the installation and leave you with a formatted machine with a half installed OS on it. >>


Since when does XP require internet access??? You don't have to activate over the internet. Stop spreading FUD, you have absolutely no idea what you're even talking about.



<< Bottom line - MS decides for you that you need to give them a $1000 payday when you want to upgrade >>


Time to spread more FUD and worthless drivel, right??? <rolleyes>

 

[uhohibrokeit]

<< Like I said, I am against sharing software with other people. However, I think I should be able to use software I purchase on all the machines I own and personally use. Let's not start a flame war here, I'm no angel but I'm a pretty dang honest person, so let's just discuss the software part here. Ya'll get off your high horses
I'm not asking for an "illegal" workaround to activation, I am just curious what actually happens if you try to activate it on more than one machine. Does anyone actually have an answer to that?

I did not realize there was a "corporate version", how much more does it cost? >>



you think you should be able to do that... thats fine, but microsoft is not selling you any software, you didnt not buy the software, you prolly couldnt afford it.... all your paying for is a license to USE their software the way they say you can use it.

 

[John P]

OK, since nobody is going to answer the actual question I had, I have decided to just delete my posts and figure it our myself. Thanks for the help. I hope you all have a nice day.

 

[Psychoholic]

<< How many posts does it take Anandtecher's to not really answer a question that could be answered in 2 sentences. >>


Depends on if the AT'er is asking to do something that's illegal or not.

 

[bozo1]

Knicknut3 answered your question in his first paragraph.

When you get to your 2nd install, XP will require you to 'activate' within 30 days. When you try to activate the 2nd machine, it will tell you that your product key code has already been activated on another machine. At that point, your 2nd installation of XP will be unusable.

 

[John P]

bozo1,

Thanks.