Post-Coakley Lib Crack-up: Matthews, Dean Call Each Other Crazy

[Specop 007]

It could be a very good year if the in fighting continues. It really goes to show just how out of touch with reality some liberals are when they can say the Brown/Coakley results prove that voters want more aggressive liberal policies.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-f...-matthews-dean-call-each-other-crazy#comments

Post-Coakley Lib Crack-up: Matthews, Dean Call Each Other Crazy

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-f...-call-each-other-crazy#comments#ixzz0dFs4zRL7

The super-sized, take-out-a-second-mortgage-to-pay-for-it bushel basket of movie popcorn just might not be big enough. War is breaking out among liberals, and the entertainment value could make Casablanca look like a test signal.

Just make yourself comfortable, sit back, and watch Chris Matthews and Howard Dean go after each other on this evening's Hardball. Dean was advancing the absurd argument that by choosing Scott Brown over Martha Coakley, voters were sending a secret coded message that they really wanted a health care bill . . . more liberal than the current Obamacare version.

Matthews calls Dean out on his lack of logic, and the pair wind up trading accusations of craziness.

That's Dean-o holding up an imaginary mirror to Matthews, advising him to look at the true crazy-man on the set. Oh, yeah: this is going to be fun!

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-f...-call-each-other-crazy#comments#ixzz0dFsfD4pq

 

[Craig234]

It could be a very good year if the in fighting continues. It really goes to show just how out of touch with reality some liberals are when they can say the Brown/Coakley results prove that voters want more aggressive liberal policies.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-f...-matthews-dean-call-each-other-crazy#comments

Post-Coakley Lib Crack-up: Matthews, Dean Call Each Other Crazy

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-f...-call-each-other-crazy#comments#ixzz0dFs4zRL7

The super-sized, take-out-a-second-mortgage-to-pay-for-it bushel basket of movie popcorn just might not be big enough. War is breaking out among liberals, and the entertainment value could make Casablanca look like a test signal.

Just make yourself comfortable, sit back, and watch Chris Matthews and Howard Dean go after each other on this evening's Hardball. Dean was advancing the absurd argument that by choosing Scott Brown over Martha Coakley, voters were sending a secret coded message that they really wanted a health care bill . . . more liberal than the current Obamacare version.

Matthews calls Dean out on his lack of logic, and the pair wind up trading accusations of craziness.

That's Dean-o holding up an imaginary mirror to Matthews, advising him to look at the true crazy-man on the set. Oh, yeah: this is going to be fun!

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-f...-call-each-other-crazy#comments#ixzz0dFsfD4pq

No, it proves you are an uninformed person who posts wrong things recklessly. See my thread for a poll showing the voters were exactly as Dean said, and not as you said.

 

[StageLeft]

Some want more, some want less. Most don't want what was being put forth, though.

EDIT: Wow, Matthews is a douche, he needs to shut up. He's quite insufferable to watch.

 

[Robor]

The bill in the Senate doesn't provided what was promised.

 

[Craig234]

The bill in the Senate doesn't provided what was promised.

Nope. Simple history:

People want good reform.

Majority of Dems want good reform.

Repubs say you need 60, we can abuse the rules.

Rahm Imannuel says "the healthcare industry is strong, they kicked our butt with Clinton, let's get them on our side". Obama says "Make it so". Healthcare price is making the bill much worse.

A few corporatist dems say "it'll cost you big."

Repubs say "no, period." Dems struggle to get 60 with the shredded tatters of a bill.

Lose election to voters who want the stronger bill changing the winner.

Conclusion: Return the Republicans to power.

 

[nick1985]

The bill in the Senate doesn't provided what was promised.

lol, the voters DONT WANT IT.

Lets say you wanted an ice cream sundae with a cherry on top. You are offered 2 choices: an ice cream sundae with no cherry, or nothing at all. According to your logic, you would choose to have nothing instead?

Get real, the message sent by MA isnt that hard to understand

 

[EagleKeeper]

Nope. Simple history:

People want good reform.

Majority of Dems want good reform.

Repubs say you need 60, we can abuse the rules.

Rahm Imannuel says "the healthcare industry is strong, they kicked our butt with Clinton, let's get them on our side". Obama says "Make it so". Healthcare price is making the bill much worse.

A few corporatist dems say "it'll cost you big."

Repubs say "no, period." Dems struggle to get 60 with the shredded tatters of a bill.

Lose election to voters who want the stronger bill changing the winner.

Conclusion: Return the Republicans to power.

What reform was in the bill.

Nothing to do with control health care costs.

It was all about robbing Peter to pay for Paul's needs (usualy Dem mantra).

Forcing people to purchase something that they did nto want to.
Penalizing people for not going in lockstep with the government.

 

[Slick5150]

lol, the voters DONT WANT IT.

Lets say you wanted an ice cream sundae with a cherry on top. You are offered 2 choices: an ice cream sundae with no cherry, or nothing at all. According to your logic, you would choose to have nothing instead?

Get real, the message sent by MA isnt that hard to understand

That Coakley was a terrible candidate?

The rest of the message is fabricated by people looking to prove a point.

 

[nick1985]

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That Coakley was a terrible candidate?

The rest of the message is fabricated by people looking to prove a point.

I hope all democrats believe the way you do. More (R) seats in congress this fall if you guys keep it up.

 

[wwswimming]

it's always fun to watch a cat-fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CezNIRYYGY

 

[cubby1223]

No, it proves you are an uninformed person who posts wrong things recklessly. See my thread for a poll showing the voters were exactly as Dean said, and not as you said.

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!

Just give up while you can and move to Venezuela.

 

[cubeless]

you are all idiots. craig has a poll that is obviously the complete and total truth... everyone knows that people always answer the unbiased, direct questions in polls truthfully...

 

[Fern]

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That Coakley was a terrible candidate?

The rest of the message is fabricated by people looking to prove a point.

After watching all this go on and seeing her speak several times, I don't think she was a bad candidate.

Sure, she made a few gaffes; who doesn't? Obama made quite a few, nobody calls him a bad candidate.

She's has experience, she's articulate, intellegent, attractive and has some charisma. Maybe she could have campaigned more actively after the primary, but to fault her for a Christmas vacation? Who heck pays attention to campaigning at Christmas time? While you're running around in frenzy trying to finish Christmas shopping you really want some @sshole shoving thier hand into you and asking for a vote?

IMO, the loss wasn't her fault, but a 'perfect storm' mostly caused by Washington. Some really bad timing, such as the christmas bomber and revelations of buyouts to senators to get their vote for the HC bill. Before those came out she was way ahead in polling.

Fern

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

By the time the Dems shoot each other over this there won't be anyone remaining but Reps.

 

[cubeless]

bo put the last nail in her coffin quite convincingly with his pathetic off the cuff remarks on sunday...

the teleprompter - don't leave home without it...

 

[Patranus]

Some want more, some want less. Most don't want what was being put forth, though.

And that is why you leave it up to the state....like MA did....

 

[Patranus]

Nope. Simple history:

People want good reform.

Majority of Dems want good reform.

Repubs say you need 60, we can abuse the rules.

Rahm Imannuel says "the healthcare industry is strong, they kicked our butt with Clinton, let's get them on our side". Obama says "Make it so". Healthcare price is making the bill much worse.

A few corporatist dems say "it'll cost you big."

Repubs say "no, period." Dems struggle to get 60 with the shredded tatters of a bill.

Lose election to voters who want the stronger bill changing the winner.

Conclusion: Return the Republicans to power.

The flaw in your logic is that

People want good reform

is the same "good reform" as

Majority of Dems want good reform.

 

[Zebo]

I would cut Mathews throat way he interrupts.

 

[Craig234]

The flaw in your logic is that

is the same "good reform" as

No, the reform I called 'good reform' is the kind progressives suggest, popular with the public.

The Senate bill is 'not as good' that the public isn't so crazy about.

 

[Craig234]

I would cut Mathews throat way he interrupts.

Yup. Charlie Rose interrups way too much, too.

 

[Patranus]

No, the reform I called 'good reform' is the kind progressives suggest, popular with the public.

The Senate bill is 'not as good' that the public isn't so crazy about.

Ya.....

Thirty-two percent (32&#37 of voters nationwide favor a single-payer health care system where the federal government provides coverage for everyone. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% are opposed to a single-payer plan.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...9/32_favor_single_payer_health_care_57_oppose

...very popular

 

[palehorse]

Some want more, some want less. Most don't want what was being put forth, though.

EDIT: Wow, Matthews is a douche, he needs to shut up. He's quite insufferable to watch.

wow, did we watch the same video? How the heck can you watch that brilliant segment and choose Matthews as the douche!?

Dean sounded like a bumbling, stuttering, moronic, double-speak politician when even he, himself, realized that his position makes no fucking sense at all. All I saw from Dean in that video was one gigantic game of dodgeball... and he lost bigtime. The beauty of it was when you saw the light blink on in Dean's eyes for just a moment -- that exact moment being the one when he realized that his own theory makes no fucking sense.

Kudos to Matthews. That was fucking great!

 

[Craig234]

Ya.....

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...9/32_favor_single_payer_health_care_57_oppose

...very popular

See my previous posts or look up your own for polls on 'Medicare for all' and other progressive provisions.

Care to look up public ratings on progressive Dorgan's Cana drug importation amendment?