Possible voting fraud in Illinois?

[rudder]

Voter fraud in Illinois? Say it isn't so!

Let me get this straight.... there is an organization who works to get democrats elected. They mail out hundreds of thousands of mail-in-ballots. Apparently this year people can for the first time vote by mail in Illinois. So rather than have these ballots go directly to the various county election commissions... they go to a PO box held by the Illinois Democratic Coordinated Campaign. On top of that they screw up the forms. One clerk office is reporting a shipment of ballots from the IDCC. They got them on Tuesday and have to have them processed by Thursday.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=7747590

I don't know but this reeks of third world voting procedures to me. What exactly happens to the ballot from the time it gets to the IDCC PO box to the time it is received by the local county clerks office? Do they prioritize ballots somehow? hmmmm.

Should we start some sort of 2010 voting fraud tracking thread. funny how people screamed about Diebold voting machines being owned by the republicans.

 

[PottedMeat]

isn't this just the democrats screwing themselves out of votes?

 

[rudder]

isn't this just the democrats screwing themselves out of votes?

1% of the ballots had a clerical error... I am more concerned with the fact that these ballots go first to an organization the works to get democrats elected. This organization is then tasked with sending ballots to the local county clerks office. Does something happen to the ballots between the PO box and the clerks office? Why didn't the ballots directly where they needed to go in the first place?

 

[waggy]

stupidity. this setup is going to get many votes disenfranchised. great job!

 

[piasabird]

Obviously someone is just putting a bunch of names on the ballots and just mailing them back in. Maybe they think if they get caught they can request all mail-in votes from the military not be counted also.

 

[PottedMeat]

1% of the ballots had a clerical error... I am more concerned with the fact that these ballots go first to an organization the works to get democrats elected. This organization is then tasked with sending ballots to the local county clerks office. Does something happen to the ballots between the PO box and the clerks office? Why didn't the ballots directly where they needed to go in the first place?

i thought these were 'ballot requests' - so this IDCC sends out request for ballot forms that get sent back to them and they're supposed to give that to the clerks office that then sends out the actual ballots.


voter registration is one thing, but i thought these things should be handled by neutral parties

 

[werepossum]

i thought these were 'ballot requests' - so this IDCC sends out request for ballot forms that get sent back to them and they're supposed to give that to the clerks office that then sends out the actual ballots.


voter registration is one thing, but i thought these things should be handled by neutral parties

I believe you are correct.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I haven't laughed this hard in long time . That was just reading the title . Your kidding . Voter fraud in ill. lol open your history book. LOL LOL

 

[Nemesis 1]

What did you think was going to happen after the fraud of gore bush election. Ya stood back as a nation and let an election get stolen . Your getting what you so rightfully deserve

 

[PeshakJang]

Obviously someone is just putting a bunch of names on the ballots and just mailing them back in. Maybe they think if they get caught they can request all mail-in votes from the military not be counted also.

They already put the wheels in motion to make that happen.

http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=1995035&spid=

The six counties comprised the most delinquent of the 35 Illinois jurisdictions found to be in violation of the 2009 Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act (MOVE). All six counties mailed their ballots at least 16 days past the Sept. 18 national deadline.

 

[Thump553]

In my state you put your absentee ballot in an envelope with the voter seals and signs across the seal (so it's obvious if it gets opened). That envelope is put in another envelope and delivered to the town clerk. Anyone can deliver it.

If you claim someone from that organization is filing out the ballots, signing the voter's name, etc. do you have any evidence to back that up? That sort of election fraud is treated very, very seriously by the Justice Department and is pretty much guaranteed jail time.

I'm as suspicious as the next guy about Illinois corruption but I think this is grasping at straws. Political parties help people (like the blind, shut-ins, etc.) absentee vote all the time-when my father was in a nursing home they had a special day where representatives visited each resident and asked if they wanted to absentee vote, and handled the paperwork right there if they did.

 

[rudder]

i thought these were 'ballot requests' - so this IDCC sends out request for ballot forms that get sent back to them and they're supposed to give that to the clerks office that then sends out the actual ballots.


voter registration is one thing, but i thought these things should be handled by neutral parties

Ahh I see said the blind man. Looks like a case of this group fubaring the handling of vote by mail.

 

[PeshakJang]

In my state you put your absentee ballot in an envelope with the voter seals and signs across the seal (so it's obvious if it gets opened). That envelope is put in another envelope and delivered to the town clerk. Anyone can deliver it.

The story is referring to absentee ballot *requests*, not the actual ballots. By law, ballots must be PERSONALLY mailed or returned the Election commission.

The IDCC sent out ballot request forms, which people then fill out and return in order to receive absentee ballot. The requests, however, are going to the IDCC, who then sends them on to the Election Commission which processes them and mails out ballots.

In the story, people are complaining that the IDCC isn't sending the requests on with enough time for them to be processes... meaning people won't be able to vote.

The IDCC says they are entering the request information into a computer.... I see absolutely no reason for this.