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Possible move to MemphisTn or Alabama

I may be offered a new job in either Alabama or TN.

I currently live in Princeton NJ and have never been to either state. If possible, can anyone give me an idea of housing costs, cost of living, etc. Obviously I have googled this info, but really need some "real life" info.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
 
I've never been to Alabama (Mill and Skoorb both live there so they can tell you more about it).

Memphis - Memphis as a whole is predominantly black, and kind of old. I don't feel uncomfortable driving around in Memphis - it isn't rampant with gang activity or anything, but its old as a city on the whole. It is home to FedEx and International Paper, two large companies.

If you're going to move to the Memphis area, definitely look into moving to Germantown or Cordova, or maybe even Collierville. Germantown and Cordova are pretty nice areas - everything over there is pretty new/recent/updated. There's lot of shopping areas all over the place, restaurants, nice 3-4 lane wide streets, a lot of housing and trees and such. A great place to raise kids.

Memphis isn't that hip in terms of places to hang out though - you have Beale street (hope I spelled that correct) where there's a lot of great live music (Justin Timberlake played a set there a few months ago b/c he grew up in Memphis), a few clubs, but nothing overly exciting.

If you have any specific details about it, let me know and I'll try to answer it. (BTW, I don't live there, but I go there at least once a year)
 
Well, I've lived here in Memphis for about two years now and I hate it. While I agree with RB mostly, I have to disagree and say that this city is a crime infested slum. It was the #1 most dangerous city in America last year. The downtown area is filled with nothing but bums and crackheads. However, Cordova and Germantown arnt that bad. I live in Gtown right now and it's almost like a completely different city out here, much better than when I lived downtown.

As far as rent goes, I pay 539$ for a small (600 sq. feet) 1 bedroom in Germantown. It's a pretty nice complex but there are better around. The cost of living is low, but the sales tax gets you in the rear, that's becasue we dont have state income tax.

I love TN, but there are a lot better places to live than in Memphis. Too bad you dont have the option of Nashville, it's a great city.
 
Regarding living in Alabama, housing prices here (at least in the northern part of the state) are very affordable and the property tax is among the lowest in the nation. The big employer in this area is Redstone Arsenal which is part Army and part NASA.

Education is probably average and there are three main colleges in this part of the state (University of North Alabama, University of Alabama Huntsville, and Alabama A&M). Schools can range from very good to horrible, but I think that's the case almost anywhere. There are sufficient shopping areas and restaurants, but little to no "nightlife". If you are looking for clubs and such, there are few. Occasionally there will be concerts here, but few major acts (those tend to go to Birmingham).

There are plenty of minor league sports (Huntsville Stars baseball, Tennessee Valley Vipers Arena Football, Huntsville Flight -- NBDL team, and a hockey team that is in a new league this year and has changed names).

There is an income tax in Alabama (5%) which Tennessee does not have.

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head. Skoorb can help you with the B'ham area (not my favorite of places, but more to do there for "fun").
 
Originally posted by: Baltazar325
Well, I've lived here in Memphis for about two years now and I hate it. While I agree with RB mostly, I have to disagree and say that this city is a crime infested slum. It was the #1 most dangerous city in America last year. The downtown area is filled with nothing but bums and crackheads. However, Cordova and Germantown arnt that bad. I live in Gtown right now and it's almost like a completely different city out here, much better than when I lived downtown.

As far as rent goes, I pay 539$ for a small (600 sq. feet) 1 bedroom in Germantown. It's a pretty nice complex but there are better around. The cost of living is low, but the sales tax gets you in the rear, that's becasue we dont have state income tax.

I love TN, but there are a lot better places to live than in Memphis. Too bad you dont have the option of Nashville, it's a great city.

Ahh. My grandmother lives near Elvis Presley Blvd right across the st from an elementary school - never had any problems with neighbors, crime, etc. The downtown area without a doubt is quite dangerous though - I'm sure you're right about the crime down there.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Baltazar325
Well, I've lived here in Memphis for about two years now and I hate it. While I agree with RB mostly, I have to disagree and say that this city is a crime infested slum. It was the #1 most dangerous city in America last year. The downtown area is filled with nothing but bums and crackheads. However, Cordova and Germantown arnt that bad. I live in Gtown right now and it's almost like a completely different city out here, much better than when I lived downtown.

As far as rent goes, I pay 539$ for a small (600 sq. feet) 1 bedroom in Germantown. It's a pretty nice complex but there are better around. The cost of living is low, but the sales tax gets you in the rear, that's becasue we dont have state income tax.

I love TN, but there are a lot better places to live than in Memphis. Too bad you dont have the option of Nashville, it's a great city.

Ahh. My grandmother lives near Elvis Presley Blvd right across the st from an elementary school - never had any problems with neighbors, crime, etc. The downtown area without a doubt is quite dangerous though - I'm sure you're right about the crime down there.

I've just had so much happen to me since I moved here that it's left a bitter taste in my mouth. I watched this thing on the news last night about Elvis Week though, and they were complaining about the amount of crime on EP Blvd. It's a good thing though that your grandmother is ok downthere though. The only time I go to south memphis is when I'm going to Olive Branch or Tunica.
 
I agree that if you move to Memphis, look in East Memphis for housing. Most of the areas east of Memphis have grown the last 5-10 years and are pretty darn nice. This would be Germantown and the other cities listed above.

As for Memphis, I've always thought it was a dump. But, there are 3 things that make it cool. #1. It's only 20 minutes from Tunica. #2. It's home to the Rondezvous, the world's best ribs. Finally, #3, it's home to the Platinum Plus, America's best gentleman's club.
 
Originally posted by: royaldank
I agree that if you move to Memphis, look in East Memphis for housing. Most of the areas east of Memphis have grown the last 5-10 years and are pretty darn nice. This would be Germantown and the other cities listed above.

As for Memphis, I've always thought it was a dump. But, there are 3 things that make it cool. #1. It's only 20 minutes from Tunica. #2. It's home to the Rondezvous, the world's best ribs. Finally, #3, it's home to the Platinum Plus, America's best gentleman's club.

PP is something to behold...
 
So wait, is PP really as good as they say? Theres only one of my cousins who live down there old enough to go there, I might have him take me down there. If there are details that can't be shared on the forums, um, PM me then 🙂

And wtf is Tunica?

Oh - one more good thing about Memphis is that it's relatively close to the casinos in MS (like an hour drive away, but it takes 5 hours to get to any casinos here in TX) 🙁
 
Lived in a suburb of Birmingham (Hoover, south of the metro area) for 3+ years approximately 4 years ago.

Purchased housing generally runs $150,000 - $250,000+ for a three bedroom/two bath - less as one progresses away from the city, and more in certain areas (a great deal more costly in areas of Hoover, Vestavia, Homewood, etc).

Rentals are quite affordable. Had a 1,200 sqare foot two bedroom/two full bath with a sunroom and fireplace, full amenities (multiple tennis courts, racquetball, club house, several pools, etc) for roughly $700 per month.

Alabama, as mentioned, does have a state income tax, as well as a local income tax as well (in some areas). Property taxes are reasonable. Transportation costs are average. Utilities are slightly below average (recall $50 electric bills, and $8 gas bills). Sales tax varies by municipality, and ranged from 3% to 11% when last I looked.

May be somewhat a culture shock for someone from the North, but this is true of many relocations. By and large, the Birmingham area is good location - a bit of culture and history, relatively close to Atlanta (two hours, by car), etc. One note: if airline travel is important or a necessity, be forwarned Birmingham's airport is rather small-time, and chances are one will be making a short flight to a more major hub (Atlanta, etc) for a connection.

Good luck.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

And wtf is Tunica?

Oh - one more good thing about Memphis is that it's relatively close to the casinos in MS (like an hour drive away, but it takes 5 hours to get to any casinos here in TX) 🙁

Tunica is where the casinos are located
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So wait, is PP really as good as they say? Theres only one of my cousins who live down there old enough to go there, I might have him take me down there. If there are details that can't be shared on the forums, um, PM me then 🙂

And wtf is Tunica?

Oh - one more good thing about Memphis is that it's relatively close to the casinos in MS (like an hour drive away, but it takes 5 hours to get to any casinos here in TX) 🙁

Tunica is where the casinos are in Northern MS.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
So wait, is PP really as good as they say? Theres only one of my cousins who live down there old enough to go there, I might have him take me down there. If there are details that can't be shared on the forums, um, PM me then 🙂

And wtf is Tunica?

Oh - one more good thing about Memphis is that it's relatively close to the casinos in MS (like an hour drive away, but it takes 5 hours to get to any casinos here in TX) 🙁

Hah, yes PP is a really fun club. A lot different than any other one I've been to. I'm sure much of what they do there is illegal. As far as Tunica. It's a city in MS that has all of the casinos. It's a 30-40 min drive from Memphis.
 
Originally posted by: Goth
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

And wtf is Tunica?

Oh - one more good thing about Memphis is that it's relatively close to the casinos in MS (like an hour drive away, but it takes 5 hours to get to any casinos here in TX) 🙁

Tunica is where the casinos are located

Ahh ok, that's why it sounds familiar 🙂 Which one is the best in your opinion? I went to the Horseshoe during Christmas, that was pretty decent. (Damn I have a bad memory - I've been to Tunica and I didn't even know it) 🙁
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Goth
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

And wtf is Tunica?

Oh - one more good thing about Memphis is that it's relatively close to the casinos in MS (like an hour drive away, but it takes 5 hours to get to any casinos here in TX) 🙁

Tunica is where the casinos are located

Ahh ok, that's why it sounds familiar 🙂 Which one is the best in your opinion? I went to the Horseshoe during Christmas, that was pretty decent. (Damn I have a bad memory - I've been to Tunica and I didn't even know it) 🙁

I've been to Goldstrike and Horseshoe, and I like Goldstrike better. That's prolly just becasue I won money when I was there..
 
Thanks for the info so far guys.

One possibility I am thinking about, at least for a short while, is flying to Memphis on Sunday night and back to Princeton on Friday night.

I think my main concerns are as follows: (some may be considered silly by you guys, but they are concerns none the less)

A) My gf is Korean. I am a Brit. In Princeton, the "liberal" capital of USA, nobody thinks twice about it. Is that likely to change?

B) Are there any towns in either state similar to Princeton (and Oxbridge in UK). IE Small "old" university towns, or even just old " "high class" towns. Don't mean to sound snobbish, but if any of you know Princeton, you will understand my meaning.

C) Trying to get intelligent cost of living comparisons is not easy. I currently earn +100k with a 25 minute drive to work. Will. say, 85-90k give me a comparable lifestyle?

D) What are the main cultural centres in either Tn or Alabama.

Thanks again guys.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Ahh ok, that's why it sounds familiar 🙂 Which one is the best in your opinion? I went to the Horseshoe during Christmas, that was pretty decent. (Damn I have a bad memory - I've been to Tunica and I didn't even know it) 🙁

I've only been one time and it was more of a sight-seeing tour for me at the time. We had free hotel passes and Mrs. Goth and I wanted to get away for a weekend. I remember enjoying the atmosphere of Hollywood, but nothing really grabbed my attention at any of the casinos.
 
What part of AL & TN are you talking about?

Housing in Huntsville, AL (mentioned above) is pretty affordable and it is a NASA town. But it's boring, most people are fat and ugly, and there's not much to do. I wouldn't go to Huntsville if I was in my 20's or younger.

Nashville, TN is OK, more to do than Huntsville and most of AL, but it does have a heavy country music environment.
 
Originally posted by: Minchenden
Thanks for the info so far guys.

One possibility I am thinking about, at least for a short while, is flying to Memphis on Sunday night and back to Princeton on Friday night.

I think my main concerns are as follows: (some may be considered silly by you guys, but they are concerns none the less)

A) My gf is Korean. I am a Brit. In Princeton, the "liberal" capital of USA, nobody thinks twice about it. Is that likely to change?

B) Are there any towns in either state similar to Princeton (and Oxbridge in UK). IE Small "old" university towns, or even just old " "high class" towns. Don't mean to sound snobbish, but if any of you know Princeton, you will understand my meaning.

C) Trying to get intelligent cost of living comparisons is not easy. I currently earn +100k with a 25 minute drive to work. Will. say, 85-90k give me a comparable lifestyle?

D) What are the main cultural centres in either Tn or Alabama.

Thanks again guys.

A) No issue there. Majority of Germantown/Cordova is white, that's all pretty common.

B) Can't say on that one really, you have the U of M, U of T, CBU for colleges, but none of them are "prep" like that though.

C) Like others said - sales tax is high because no state income tax. It's relatively inexpensive to live in G-town. I don't know what you're spending your money on but 85-90k will definitely leave you with a nice, relaxed life.

D) Can't say on that one either, hopefully the TN peeps can chime in.
 
Originally posted by: Minchenden
Thanks for the info so far guys.

One possibility I am thinking about, at least for a short while, is flying to Memphis on Sunday night and back to Princeton on Friday night.

I think my main concerns are as follows: (some may be considered silly by you guys, but they are concerns none the less)

A) My gf is Korean. I am a Brit. In Princeton, the "liberal" capital of USA, nobody thinks twice about it. Is that likely to change?

B) Are there any towns in either state similar to Princeton (and Oxbridge in UK). IE Small "old" university towns, or even just old " "high class" towns. Don't mean to sound snobbish, but if any of you know Princeton, you will understand my meaning.

C) Trying to get intelligent cost of living comparisons is not easy. I currently earn +100k with a 25 minute drive to work. Will. say, 85-90k give me a comparable lifestyle?

D) What are the main cultural centres in either Tn or Alabama.

Thanks again guys.

Well, Memphis and Bham are both fairly old American cities, but I wouldnt call them high class. Memphis is a dirty city, and to some extent so is Bham. As far as being liberal, this is the most liberal city in TN. About 70% of the population in the city is african american and I dont think this city has elected a republican in years.

The cultural center in TN is more than likely Nashville. It's a fine city, and I love it there. I plan on moving there as soon as I finish law school here in Memphis.

85-90k a year here in Memphis should be plenty of money. Just remember, we drink ICE TEA down here 😛
 
A) My gf is Korean. I am a Brit. In Princeton, the "liberal" capital of USA, nobody thinks twice about it. Is that likely to change?

As a whole, the state is more conservative (remember, it's the heart of the Bible Belt). At least in the northern part of the state, your nationality should have no bearing on the way you are viewed/treated.

B) Are there any towns in either state similar to Princeton (and Oxbridge in UK). IE Small "old" university towns, or even just old " "high class" towns. Don't mean to sound snobbish, but if any of you know Princeton, you will understand my meaning.

Not in the northen part, as far as I know.

C) Trying to get intelligent cost of living comparisons is not easy. I currently earn +100k with a 25 minute drive to work. Will. say, 85-90k give me a comparable lifestyle?

85-90K will more more than comparable, in my opinion.

D) What are the main cultural centres in either Tn or Alabama.

None in northern Alabama. Birmingham, as stated earlier, has some. Montgomery is somewhat big on culture as it played a big role in the Civil War.
 
Originally posted by: Minchenden
Thanks for the info so far guys.

One possibility I am thinking about, at least for a short while, is flying to Memphis on Sunday night and back to Princeton on Friday night.

I think my main concerns are as follows: (some may be considered silly by you guys, but they are concerns none the less)

A) My gf is Korean. I am a Brit. In Princeton, the "liberal" capital of USA, nobody thinks twice about it. Is that likely to change?

B) Are there any towns in either state similar to Princeton (and Oxbridge in UK). IE Small "old" university towns, or even just old " "high class" towns. Don't mean to sound snobbish, but if any of you know Princeton, you will understand my meaning.

C) Trying to get intelligent cost of living comparisons is not easy. I currently earn +100k with a 25 minute drive to work. Will. say, 85-90k give me a comparable lifestyle?

D) What are the main cultural centres in either Tn or Alabama.

Thanks again guys.

A. Well AL/TN area lot more conservative, but I don't think that will be a problem. I never had any problems in my entire time in AL/TN.

B. Not really, but maybe I'm missing some. Vanderbilt University is in Nashville, TN so if you stay around that school you can have all of the snobs that you want 😉

C. Sure.

D. Ummm...I wouldn't say that AL/TN have a lot culture, but it depends on what you mean. Huntsville, AL and the north wouldn't have much. Nashville has a lot of country music culture and there's also Memphis in TN.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Housing in Huntsville, AL (mentioned above) is pretty affordable and it is a NASA town. But it's boring, most people are fat and ugly, and there's not much to do. I wouldn't go to Huntsville if I was in my 20's or younger.

Nashville, TN is OK, more to do than Huntsville and most of AL, but it does have a heavy country music environment.

Agreed on the Nashville statement as I lived in that area for 10+ years.

Huntsville can be boring for college age students as it's not a college town. However, why do you say "people are fat and ugly"? That's a general statement and is not indicative of the population as a whole. Granted, you won't see a plethora of California hardbodies, but most are not fat and ugly. For the most part, people are friendly as well.
 
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