Possible Invasion of Pakistan aborted in 2005

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The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Before Pakistan went down, it would've made sure that most Israeli cities were nuked. The rest of the nukes would have been given away to Iran. Nuclear secrets would've leaked to groups around the world. Thousands of American soldiers would've been killed and I would've had a 1/100 chance of being one of America's innocent victims.

On the other hand, Pakistan might've just won with the help of China (considering how America has fared in recent wars) losing credibility and it's status as superpower.

Yet even though Israel had no play with this at all, you state the Pakistan would have attempted to nuke Israel.

That is the mind set that creates concern about the Muslims. And you do not even come across as a radical Muslim - yet you are willing to nuke a country that has no beef with yours.

This is the same attitude that Saddam had in Gulf War I. Launch missles at Israel just because, even if Israel was staying out of the conflict. And then you wonder why Israel does not trust the Arab/Muslim countries.

Also realize that even though Pakistan may be nuclear, the ability to launch a missle with a nuke warhead is a different story. Even a couintry that is famous for launching missles can not get a long range missle up in the air.

You must realize that once an American invasion would be launched it would not take much time for the masses to realize that this is an all out war against Islam itself. And it is no secret that America's blind favoritism towards Israel is interpreted as Israel's role in this war against Islam. Pakistan did send soldiers in the Arab Israeli war. In fact, Israel is the main problem hindering Muslim - American relations.

The Shaheen II missile has a range of 2500KM and ability to carry nuclear warheads. The Tipu Sultan with a range of 4000KM is under development.

As always been stated, the conflict is not against Islam but those that twist Islam to suit thier purpose of forcing Islam upon others.

If those that are Muslims are unable to determine the difference it again demonstrates why there is such a problem between the Mulims and the non-Muslim world.

Israel is an excuse by the Arab world for them to confront their own problems.

Israel is more than 2500Km from Pakistan.
Had there been a conflict, Pakistan wouild not have a chance to develp the Tipu Sultan.

You say an invasion of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan in one time period should not be considered as a war against Islam? You would have a hard time explaining it to any sane muslim.

The problem only lies between the muslims and America and a few of it's allies. Last time I checked the map, that does not account for the rest of the world.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Idontcare
the mission's planning said it grew to the point where "the whole thing turned into the invasion of Pakistan,"

Thank god somebody had the balls to stop this thing. Just what we could have done without - more data to support extremists claims that the US does what it wants, where it wants, when it wants.

if this would have successfully gone down there would have been no 9/11 nor the current situation in iraq. (its pure speculation what would have happened otherwise)

without 9/11 there would have been no 'war on terror'. good ol fashioned random terrorism would have occured just as it had the past 30 years.


Check your calendar

9/11 happened in 2001
Iraq went into play in 2003
These events are talked about in 2005

lol my thoughts exactly :)
 

The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: Fern
Misleading thread title FTL

And "Big Whoop" for another secret mission that never happend.

Fern

Yes, and we as humans should be thankful that sanity prevailed. Another WW could've been easily triggered. I can't believe someone wound not accept the that the combined occupation of Iraq, Iran Afghanistan would not be termed "imperialism" or a "war against Islam"

Everything is a war against Islam.

especially the western media's incorrect portrayal of Islam.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: Fern
Misleading thread title FTL

And "Big Whoop" for another secret mission that never happend.

Fern

Yes, and we as humans should be thankful that sanity prevailed. Another WW could've been easily triggered. I can't believe someone wound not accept the that the combined occupation of Iraq, Iran Afghanistan would not be termed "imperialism" or a "war against Islam"

Everything is a war against Islam.

especially the western media's incorrect portrayal of Islam.

Always a victim.

 

The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: Fern
Misleading thread title FTL

And "Big Whoop" for another secret mission that never happend.

Fern

Yes, and we as humans should be thankful that sanity prevailed. Another WW could've been easily triggered. I can't believe someone wound not accept the that the combined occupation of Iraq, Iran Afghanistan would not be termed "imperialism" or a "war against Islam"

Everything is a war against Islam.

especially the western media's incorrect portrayal of Islam.

Always a victim.

A victim of both sides.
 

firewall

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Is it not sad when country's wish to blow up each other on the basis of false evidence? I wouldn't trust anything coming from the CIA after their invasion of Iraq based on lies. I'm sure China doesn't want an American occupied country as a neighbor.

India also borders China and we will probably have presence there soon judging from the way Bush & Co. are promoting US-India relations. Dunno what happened to the nuke deal. Last I read, which was some time ago, it met a dead end due to some Indian demand which we refused to accept.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean


Is it not sad when country's wish to blow up each other on the basis of false evidence? I wouldn't trust anything coming from the CIA after their invasion of Iraq based on lies. I'm sure China doesn't want an American occupied country as a neighbor.

I find it amusing you think the Chinese would be so concerned. If we honored their resource contracts they could give a shit about the rest.

Hypothetically, who is the better neighbor? Your biggest trade partner that is willing to overlook almost everything you do in your own nation or a nation controlled by people looking to export their brand of radical religion anywhere possible through violent means if necessary. Something tells me that in a vote the Chinese politburo would lean our way.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: The Green Bean


Is it not sad when country's wish to blow up each other on the basis of false evidence? I wouldn't trust anything coming from the CIA after their invasion of Iraq based on lies. I'm sure China doesn't want an American occupied country as a neighbor.

I find it amusing you think the Chinese would be so concerned. If we honored their resource contracts they could give a shit about the rest.

Hypothetically, who is the better neighbor? Your biggest trade partner that is willing to overlook almost everything you do in your own nation or a nation controlled by people looking to export their brand of radical religion anywhere possible through violent means if necessary. Something tells me that in a vote the Chinese politburo would lean our way.

They might only lean our way with compromise.
Ex: Taiwan.