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Porsche with problems from oil change Outcome was a $10,767 motor replacement

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
9.2 quarts in a Boxster?

Dayamn.

Viper GTS

Yeah, they claim their cars are air cooled but in reality they are oil cooled.

Back in the cage, Nissan boy, Porsches are water cooled.

I know they are now...I was referring to the older ones that do not have radiators. Still, they don't use the big capacity cooling systems most water cooled engines use.
 
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: Literati
Originally posted by: FiLeZz
Anything I should do?

Yes, get a new Porchse, preferably one that's not a Boxster.

Now that I've been an a$$ about it:

Honestly, you are paying 12k for a new engine...now is your chance to do something special. I'm not sure if you are aware of this but the 99-2001 911' 3.4 ltr 911 engine can be put in a boxster as they are the same M96 motor. This swap adds about 100hp and makes for a car that's faster the the 911 with better handling characteristics. Maybe you should look into how much more that engine would cost you. I've ridden in a friend's vehicle who had the swap done and I was humbled. I believe it is less then a 4k difference and this is basically a one-time oppurtunity for you to do it.....
Do you really think his insurance would cover something like that???:disgust:


Yes, generally insurance writes you a check based on the repair shop estimate and what you do with it is up to you.......meaning of course they wont cover the difference but like I said...for around 4k or so (to the best of my knowledge) you'd be good to go....
 
According to a post from the owner of this company on rennlist- a porsche discussion forum...they do it for about 13.9k which includes a brand new 3.4ltr 911 engine...as well as a GHL stainless exhaust and final result is 340hp or about 120hp more then your current config 🙂 and for only 3k more 🙂 ......btw they said it takes 5 days....since I have no clue where you're located shipping is probably a factor as well....

http://www.racetek-engineering.com/

another place that does it:

www.fvd.us

also ruf and gemballa do it supposedly.....just searched on www.rennlist.com for that info...

If money isn't a factor and you took serious interest to having it done I would look into Ruf first...they are probably the best Porsche tuner...
 
I apologize ahead of time because I have not read every reply but....

I can't imagine your insurance company would cover this. You would have to be a very good customer of theirs and perhaps you are.

The oil change facility is negligent in this instance. I can guarantee they will deny any responsibility. You can see where this is heading. This is a legal matter.

From several of your replies, it appears that money means little to you. So, perhaps you're willing to eat this or put in more motor as another poster suggested.

If I had what it takes to own a car of the nature, I would be calling my lawyer. You shouldn't have to pay for this. I have a hard time believing your insurance company will either. And if they will, please post the name of the company. I may send my business their way next renewal.
 
I was saying I wonder if the oil change place insurance company will cut me a check.

They are the ones that have the insurance claim in not me.
As they are the ones that did the the bad oil change that put me here.

I already have a cliam number from their insurance company. Not that it means anything.

Does it make more sense?

 
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
9.2 quarts in a Boxster?

Dayamn.

Viper GTS
yeah, porsches are known as oil hogs.. a coworker of mine with a 911 says his takes 9 quarts as well.
The 911 takes that much oil because it's air-cooled. Air-cooled engines are actually cooled to a large amount by their oil, and a larger volume of oil can absorb more heat than a smaller volume.

That said, even the liqiud-cooled P-cars have large oil capacities. The regular 944 took about 6.5 quarts for a 2.5 litre 4-cylinder engine.

ZV
 
if you can afford a porsche, you can afford to take it to a proper mechanic to get the oil changed. hell, i drive an ancient honda and even i take it to a proper honda specialist for all maintenence.
 
You need to contact a lawyer immediately.

Liffy Lube or wherever is most certainly at fault.
 
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
9.2 quarts in a Boxster?

Dayamn.

Viper GTS
yeah, porsches are known as oil hogs.. a coworker of mine with a 911 says his takes 9 quarts as well.
The 911 takes that much oil because it's air-cooled. Air-cooled engines are actually cooled to a large amount by their oil, and a larger volume of oil can absorb more heat than a smaller volume.

That said, even the liqiud-cooled P-cars have large oil capacities. The regular 944 took about 6.5 quarts for a 2.5 litre 4-cylinder engine.

ZV
Precisely.

There's nothing wrong with having a large oil sump. It's just more mass to sink-heat, more marigin for error if you're a little low.

My brother's '88 Accord takes 3.7 quarts including the filter. Geez.
 
If you paid $100 at a quick lube place why wouldnt you just pay the dealer for the oil change? I know Porsche labour can be expensive, but i cant imagine it would be much more expensive.
 
IMO, it is bad design that the filter element can even be inserted in such a way as to cause a no oil-pressure condition.......
 
Originally posted by: Eli
IMO, it is bad design that the filter element can even be inserted in such a way as to cause a no oil-pressure condition.......


IMO it keeps people from going to idiots to have their cars worked on.....

Also you should really get your boxster's pollen filter changed often, I used to do it every oil change. A dealer oil change is probably only about $120.
 
I know it doesn't help you now but why didn't you just take it to Jim Ellis Porsche in Atlanta in the first place? I only paid $100 for oil change on my 2000 Boxster back when I owned it. I can't believe prices have gone up much if at all.

Now there's two Porsche dealership in Atlanta. In addition to Jim Ellis on Peachtree Industrial, there's Hennessy Porsche in Roswell.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
"Only" 100-120$ for an oil change?

You Porsche owners are insane. 😛

oil change on my BMW 540 was ~90.. but it was only about once per year.. i imagine something similar w/boxster.
 
Why do you have to pay any of it?

They should be bending over and kissing your ass.
 
Well over the past weeks, they were going to make me pay $2000 I told them hell no.. So we are setting on $1000 out of pocket..
They claim deminished value on the motor I had.
 
fvck that!! you should not be paying a SINGLE cent, let alone $1,000 out of pocket. it's not even the $$$, it's the principle - they fvcked it up. they should reimburse you in full.

if you were to damage their property, would they allow you to pay all but $1,000 claiming eqipment depreciation???? HELL NO!!
 
This is why I personally change my own oil...

1) I would consider consulting a lawyer. The Jiffy Lube should pay for its mistake.
2) I would have that Jiffy Lube post a notice, warning future Porsche drivers.
 
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