porn company has new approach to anti-piracy

[Skel]

Beats paying lawyers I guess...

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February 23, 2011 3:00 PM PST
"I'm not of the mind that someone who pirates one piece of content is never going to purchase another piece of content."
That statement was made a couple of months ago by Quentin Boyer, a spokesman for Pink Visual, an adult-film company. Los Angeles-based Pink Visual has eschewed filing copyright suits against alleged film pirates in the hope that it can strike some kind of balance in a world where unauthorized digital photos, books, movies and music are so easily passed around the Internet.
This year, a growing number of porn studios, including such top triple-x filmmakers as Vivid Entertainment and Larry Flynt Publications, have accused thousands of suspected film pirates from across the country of violating their copyrights. These legal efforts have suffered several setbacks but they continue to wind through the courts. Managers at Pink Visual are skeptical that lawsuits are the right approach.
I interviewed Boyer recently about Pink Visual's plans to soon launch a cloud-video service that enables users to store movie clips they buy from Pink Visual on the company's servers. This is one of the ways that the company wants to fight piracy. Pink Visual hopes to out market, out promote, out innovate illegal file-sharing services. The plan is to make content so easily available at such a fair price that piracy is less attractive to the company's audience.
Boyer wanted to make it clear that Pink Visual managers aren't fans of illegal file sharing and he argued that piracy has cut deeply into the porn sector's revenue. The company doesn't criticize other companies for taking a different approach to piracy, and added "who knows, we could be wrong."
But Boyer made some intriguing points about his company's approach to piracy, which set against a backdrop of increasing litigation at porn and indie film studios, seemed important enough to pass along.
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• You've had a lot of companies both in mainstream and adult entertainment who've been kind of stubborn on the question of access and convenience. They want people consuming their content the way the companies want it consumed. They want to monetize it the way they want to. About two years ago we began to see that as a losing battle.
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• In November, we actively began to engage user communities. Some people would identify them as pirate communities. Certainly, that's not the term we would use. For sure, there are content pirates among them too, but there are a lot of fans and a lot of potential customers. We started asking them 'What would make you more likely to purchase?' 'What do you want to see and what don't you want to see?'
• A consumer who will come onto the Internet and buy adult content is someone who wants access and convenience. At the end of the day, lots of people provide the same kind of content. So, how do I differentiate myself as an adult content producer? I give them better technology, better user experience and better price point.
• Part of our thinking is that you don't really benefit from bickering and sort of by pointing fingers at the large user base that's out there. Setting aside for a second the question of whether some of them are ripping your content from a DVD and uploading it to the torrents, what do I have gain by ostracizing this huge group of people which is a mixed bag of people who might be willing to purchase and people who will never purchase.
I don't want to paint them all with the same brush. I think that's the mistake that some in mainstream entertainment have made and I think that mistake's being replicated in the adult industry. I certainly understand the frustration that rights holders feel. We experience the same frustration. But at some point you have to be pragmatic and say 'Okay piracy is a fact of life. It's been there for a long time. Now what?'
•The important question is can you make your appeal more effective? Can you make your marketing more effective and draw the people who are willing to purchase from you out from that population and get them to buy what you're selling.​

 

[techs]

porn company has new approach to anti-piracy



Whew. For a minute I thought they were going to ugly up the porn stars.

 

[KaOTiK]

So Steam for porn?

 

[NFS4]

Mmmm, Lexi Belle. That's the only one I recognize from that banner pic 🙂

 

[shortylickens]

porn company has new approach to anti-piracy



Whew. For a minute I thought they were going to ugly up the porn stars.

You never saw Bubzidia did you?

 

[her209]

My prediction: This anti-piracy measure will fail badly.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

"The plan is to make content so easily available at such a fair price that piracy is less attractive to the company's audience."

Ding ding ding! Yet another innovation from porn. Jesus, finally people figure this shit out.

 

[Tsavo]

So Steam for porn?

Yes.

It'll be called....Steamy.

:hmm:

 

[Kadarin]

They're competing with free, so they're going to have to add value somehow. Maybe make better quality porn?

 

[Gigantopithecus]

"The plan is to make content so easily available at such a fair price that piracy is less attractive to the company's audience."

Ding ding ding! Yet another innovation from porn. Jesus, finally people figure this shit out.

LOL. Not really the porn industry's innovation, though. For years, non-major label musicians have made mp3s purchasable through their websites. I'm not interested in paying $15 for a CD but I am interested in paying $5 for an mp3 album.

 

[NFS4]

They're competing with free, so they're going to have to add value somehow. Maybe make better quality porn?

That would mean going back to have real plots and storylines. Today's porn amounts to:

Chick walks into room
Chick does sexy little dance
Dude walks up and says some cheesy lines
Chick takes off panties/bra
Dude starts suckin' on tit-tays
Dude goes down south
Chick sucks on Mr. Peeper
**Insert various sexual positions with fake moaning -- bonus points for DP**
Dude ends by "finishing" in 1) front door, 2) pooper, 3) on stomach, 4) in mouth (if in mouth, camera has to zoom in to show woman "enjoying it" as it dribbles down her mouth)

Yeah, I think that covers about 99% of mainstream porn

 

[drebo]

I somehow don't believe that peer-to-peer sites are the biggest issue threatening porn companies.

I suspect that websites like Red Tube and xvideos and Porn Hub are far more damaging. Shut those down before going after individual people who just use those types of services.

 

[Kadarin]

That would mean going back to have real plots and storylines. Today's porn amounts to:

Chick walks into room
Chick does sexy little dance
Dude walks up and says some cheesy lines
Chick takes off panties/bra
Dude starts suckin' on tit-tays
Dude goes down south
Chick sucks on Mr. Peeper
**Insert various sexual positions with fake moaning -- bonus points for DP**
Dude ends by "finishing" in 1) front door, 2) pooper, 3) on stomach, 4) in mouth (if in mouth, camera has to zoom in to show woman "enjoying it" as it dribbles down her mouth)

Yeah, I think that covers about 99% of mainstream porn

You forgot the fact that the camera almost always has to zoom in on the guy's face just as he's about to pop... FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. Nobody wants to see that.

Other than that, you're exactly right about why mainstream porn sucks. Don't forget also piss poor camera work: Too many quick edits, tilting cameras, quick zoom in an out, too many extreme close ups that last too long, cameraman focusing on parts that don't matter.

 

[her209]

That would mean going back to have real plots and storylines. Today's porn amounts to:

Chick walks into room
Chick does sexy little dance
Dude walks up and says some cheesy lines
Chick takes off panties/bra
Dude starts suckin' on tit-tays
Dude goes down south
Chick sucks on Mr. Peeper
**Insert various sexual positions with fake moaning -- bonus points for DP**
Dude ends by "finishing" in 1) front door, 2) pooper, 3) on stomach, 4) in mouth (if in mouth, camera has to zoom in to show woman "enjoying it" as it dribbles down her mouth)

Yeah, I think that covers about 99% of mainstream porn

What's the other 1%? She straps it on and the dude bends over for doggy, lies on his back for missionary, or rides it cowboy? After he finishes, he licks it off of her?

 

[NFS4]

You forgot the fact that the camera almost always has to zoom in on the guy's face just as he's about to pop... FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. Nobody wants to see that.

Other than that, you're exactly right about why mainstream porn sucks. Don't forget also piss poor camera work: Too many quick edits, tilting cameras, quick zoom in an out, too many extreme close ups that last too long, cameraman focusing on parts that don't matter.

The best porn out there (I can't believe I'm actually saying this) is the kind that is aimed at a female audience. The "actors" appear to be more intimate and actually into their craft instead of just showing up to get a check. It also usually has much better camera work/angles.

I'm guessing it's likely women that direct that stuff too, because they know what the ladies like.

 

[surfsatwerk]

The best porn out there (I can't believe I'm actually saying this) is the kind that is aimed at a female audience. The "actors" appear to be more intimate and actually into their craft instead of just showing up to get a check. It also usually has much better camera work/angles.

I'm guessing it's likely women that direct that stuff too, because they know what the ladies like.

I've come across straight porn made for gay dudes. The camera angles are... off putting to say the least.

 

[NFS4]

straight porn made for gay dudes.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

This

 

[surfsatwerk]

This

I'm fairly certain the actor was pulled from the stable of gay porn actors because I'd never seen him before in my life, and I consider my face recognition of mainstream porn actors to be staggering. The chick was familiar to me, Vanessa Leon iirc.

The frustration caused by the cameraman constantly focusing on the male actor, when I knew god damn well there was such a choice little hottie right there, I just stopped fapping and walked away.

 

[joesmoke]

heres the main flaw i find with their current business model: once a woman becomes a "porn star" i find the idea of paying to watch her fuck laughable.

"oh yes, this is obviously her 'first time', which is why she already has a bleached, gaping, blown out butthole...".

"how odd this average poor college girl whos JUST short of her rent is wearing no panties, has fake tits, is fully shaved, and has pieced hips and a fully tatted left thigh... makes sense"

i barely find it amusing enough for a good tug, but to think of paying my hard earned money to watch some smashed out ho be bored while getting drilled? please...

 

[Lifted]

They're competing with free, so they're going to have to add value somehow. Maybe make better quality porn?

Online multiplayer worked for games.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

LOL. Not really the porn industry's innovation, though. For years, non-major label musicians have made mp3s purchasable through their websites. I'm not interested in paying $15 for a CD but I am interested in paying $5 for an mp3 album.

Hell, even mainstream albums off iTunes at $8-10 a pop are a reasonable deal.

The point remains the same though - provide the content people want at a fair and reasonable price, and deliver it how they want it delivered. And as far as video content goes, we're not quite there yet.

 

[Pardus]

piracy has cut deeply into the porn sector's revenue.

most porn dvd's are crap to begin with, the porn industry makes tons of money selling monthly subscriptions to there sicko websites, i don't feel sorry for them at all.

 

[epidemis]

Who in their right mind pays for porn? I'd never ever grant a fraction of a cent, you pimp.

 

[GundamW]

So Steam for porn?

You know what. That might not be a bad idea.
If the prices are low enough, people will buy them instead of pirating them.
Then add in the multiple weekend, mid-week, summer, and XXX-mas porn sale event.....