Pope's Astronomer: Creationism/Intelligent Design are "Bad Theology"

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Paratus

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Well PFJ, you've successfully retained your ignorance, oops I mean "faith", in the face of reason. Do we need to sign a form for you to take back to your church?
 

Leros

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Most of your arguments are strawberries.

See how meaningless baseless assertions are?


You are invited to show that the string of words "non-naturalistic cause" is at all coherent. Not every concatenation of English letters is a sensible concept.


As demonstrated above, you rule out the very same "potential causes" every second of your waking life, so making the same behavior the crux of your criticism reveals you to be a hypocrite... like it surprises any of us at this point.

Here's a little exercise for you: how do you rule out the possibility that your mind is actually in the Matrix? How do you rule out the idea that the real cause for the totality of your sense experience is a magical and impenetrable illusion perpetrated on you by a powerful wizard while your body actually rests imprisoned in his chambers? After all, it is your assertion that you do not rule out "non-naturalistic casuses" a priori. How is it, then, that you can deduce the falsity of these scenarios from your sense experience?

What does it mean to be "in the Matrix". I'm not big on Sci-fi.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
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What does it mean to be "in the Matrix". I'm not big on Sci-fi.
Not material to the answer, actually. Answer the subsequent question, if you don't like the first. The point is the same. The fact that you didn't even bother to address it is pretty telling.
 

Gibsons

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What does it mean to be "in the Matrix". I'm not big on Sci-fi.

I'll humor you.

"in the matrix" refers to a movie, in which the 'reality' that most people think they know, is in fact a computer simulation. Everyone walks and talks and thinks like they are in the 'real world,' but they are not. They have no means, no evidence, to tell them they are not in the real world.

The point being, you or I or anyone can't prove in any way that we are not simply a part of a gigantic computer simulation. How could you prove that we are not? Any possible outcome of any experience can be explained with "that's how the simulation program works." So, is everything we see and hear and taste a computer simulation? You can't prove it isn't.
 
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