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Pope John Paul II has died...RIP

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You know what's funny? the CNN is saying that the Vaticans are saying "god will take pope tonight or tomorrow".

does that mean they're going to remove the feeding tube?
 
Originally posted by: Pepsei
You know what's funny? the CNN is saying that the Vaticans are saying "god will take pope tonight or tomorrow".

does that mean they're going to remove the feeding tube?
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It would seem to mean that his vitals are so weak that he is not expected to make it util Sunday.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
I doubt removing the feeding tube is what will kill him. He sounds like everything is failing.
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Sounds like it. Doubt he'll last the weekend.

Who are the top candidates for a replacement?
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Who are the top candidates for a replacement?
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it's hard to even guess. it's not something the cardinals talk about.

there's a chance they'll go back to a traditional Italian pope, or they could pick one of the African or South American cardinals.

I wouldn't be suprised if it was a black or hispanic cardinal. that's where most of the church's base is these days.
 
Looks like a toxic shock to the blood stream, from the onset of uremic poisoning resulting from kidney failure . .

good a guess as any . .
 
//puts on tin foil hat

i say its a conspiracy by the vatican....keep the pope alive till sunday...its a miracle he would survive that long and dying on the "sabath" so to speak would be holy or something...thus giving us a new "saint" at some point down the line

that or the aliens that created catholisism in the first place will beam him up....
 
The pope died. Meh.
Originally posted by: preCRT
At least it won't be that scumbag Cardinal Law, protector of child molesters
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Yeah and who protected Cardinal Law and all hence the other pedophiles within the church?

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Looks like a toxic shock to the blood stream, from the onset of uremic poisoning resulting from kidney failure . .

good a guess as any . .
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How about, he was really old and died? People do that.
 
Originally posted by: arsbanned
The pope died. Meh.
Originally posted by: preCRT
At least it won't be that scumbag Cardinal Law, protector of child molesters
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Yeah and who protected Cardinal Law and all hence the other pedophiles within the church?
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Omnes viae Romam ducunt.

 
Originally posted by: preCRT
Originally posted by: arsbanned
The pope died. Meh.
Originally posted by: preCRT
At least it won't be that scumbag Cardinal Law, protector of child molesters
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Yeah and who protected Cardinal Law and all hence the other pedophiles within the church?
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Omnes viae Romam ducunt.
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Exactly.

As for my attitude toward the pope and the church in general, as they say, there's nothing worse than an "Ex" anything, and I'm an Ex Catholic. 😀

Originally posted by: magomago
How does pope selection occur? A bunch of bishops/cardinals meet and vote on a new person?
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I think they flip a coin. Or do they throw darts. Draw straws?
 
Originally posted by: magomago
How does pope selection occur? A bunch of bishops/cardinals meet and vote on a new person?
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Something like that, and there's black smoke when they haven't made a decision, and white smoke when they have, or maybe it's vice versa, I don't know. I think they keep voting until it's unanimous, then they get to burn stuff.
 
from Wikipedia

The election of the Pope almost always takes place in the Sistine Chapel, in a meeting called a "conclave" (so called because twenty days after the Pope's death, the present cardinal electors are theoretically locked in, cum clavi, until they elect a new Pope). Three cardinals are chosen by lot to collect the votes of absent cardinal electors (by reason of illness), three are chosen by lot to count the votes, and three are chosen by lot to review the count of the votes. The ballots are distributed and each cardinal elector writes the name of his choice on it and pledges aloud that he is voting for "one whom under God I think ought to be elected" before depositing his vote in a large chalice placed on the altar. Each ballot is read aloud by the presiding Cardinal, who then pierces the ballot with a needle and thread, stringing all the ballots together and tying the ends of the thread to ensure accuracy and honesty. Balloting continues until a Pope is elected by a two-thirds majority (since the promulgation of Universi Dominici Gregis the rules allow for a simple majority after a deadlock of twelve days).

One of the most famous parts of the conclave is the means by which the results of a ballot are announced to the world. Once the ballots are counted and bound together, they are burned in a special oven erected in the Sistine Chapel, with the smoke escaping through a small chimney visible from St Peter's Square. The ballots from an unsuccessful vote are burned along with a chemical compound in order to produce black smoke, or "fumata nera." (Traditionally wet straw was used to help create the black smoke, but a number of "false alarms" in past conclaves have brought about this concession to modern chemistry.) When a vote is successful, the ballots are burned alone, sending white smoke ("fumata bianca") through the chimney and announcing to the world the election of a new Pope.

The Dean of the College of Cardinals then asks the successfully elected Cardinal two solemn questions. First he asks, "Do you freely accept your election?" If he replies with the word "Accepto," his reign as Pope begins at that instant, not at the coronation ceremony several days afterward. The Dean then asks, "By what name shall you be called?" The new Pope then announces the name he has chosen for himself (starting in 535, the Pope has customarily chosen a new name for himself during his Pontificate; the names are not based on any system other than general honorifics, and have been based on immediate predecessors, mentors, and political similarity).

The new Pope is led through the "Door of Tears" to a dressing room in which three sets of white Papal vestments ("immantatio") await: literally small, medium, and large. Donning the appropriate vestments and re-emerging into the Sistine Chapel, the new Pope is given the "Fisherman's Ring" by the Cardinal Camerlengo, whom he either reconfirms or reappoints. The Pope then assumes a place of honor as the rest of the Cardinals wait in turn to offer their first "obedience" ("adoratio"), and to receive his blessing.

The senior cardinal deacon then announces from a balcony over St. Peter's Square the following proclamation: Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum! Habemus Papam! ("I announce to you a great joy! We have a Pope!")
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edit: random interesting fact -- the Pope's full title is "Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Patriarch of the West, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the State of the Vatican City, Servant of the Servants of God."
 
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