Pope John Paul II fears Bush is the antichrist

[kage69]

. It was vanity

It was greed. Little bits of land nothing, it was done for control of the trade routes of the area. As is the case today, the leaders then took advantage of their followers in order to orchestrate an adventure into the East.

 

[CycloWizard]

I'm glad kage is aware of the true motivation for every historical event. Equally glad that he is all-knowing about things in general. Almost as glad that pisabird has ever thought about what he's talking about before saying such things. Easier to throw ignorant insults than know what you're talking about, I suppose.

 

[RobCur]

there is nothing to fear but his own fear of death.

 

[kage69]

I'm glad kage is aware of the true motivation for every historical event. Equally glad that he is all-knowing about things in general. Almost as glad that pisabird has ever thought about what he's talking about before saying such things. Easier to throw ignorant insults than know what you're talking about, I suppose.

Going on past experience with your normal "input," I'm not the least bit surprised you were not aware and/or disagree. Your thinly veiled insults also fall right into character for someone who has been proven wrong many times yet lacks the maturity and integrity to see it, let alone admit it. Remember that other abortion thread awhile back? All you did was make yourself look like a complete ass, and when it was brought to your attention repeatedly, not a word from you. And true to CW form, you don't make an attempt to address the issue, but instead make insulting hyperbole and act high and mighty. How depressing typical.

You really need to grow up.

I can back up my claims; can you say the same?

Why am I even wasting my time? You are a hopelessly ignorant idealogue, almost totally devoid of mature rational thought. I've seen enough of your thoughts to know that is unlikely to change anytime soon.

 

[kage69]

Many here know exactly what I'm refering to, for those who don't, I offer this as a glimpse into CW's pompous jackassery.

 

[CycloWizard]

If you vote against it, then you're for it. Why? Because this procedure simply isn't done to protect the life of the mother. If the reason were that the life of the mother were in danger due to pregnancy, simple induction of labor and subsequent delivery would solve the problem. If the delivery itself is the problem, then this procedure can't help, since it involves delivering the baby.

Is that what you're referring to? I missed the part where anyone said anything close to a refutation of that statement. If you're going to point out my ignorance, I suggest you look somewhere other than an abortion thread, or I at least suggest you read some books on the subject before calling me ignorant.

Of course, I should be thanking you. You try to assassinate my character right after you do the same for the pope, of all people. That puts me in pretty good company.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

If you vote against it, then you're for it. Why? Because this procedure simply isn't done to protect the life of the mother. If the reason were that the life of the mother were in danger due to pregnancy, simple induction of labor and subsequent delivery would solve the problem. If the delivery itself is the problem, then this procedure can't help, since it involves delivering the baby.

Is that what you're referring to? I missed the part where anyone said anything close to a refutation of that statement. If you're going to point out my ignorance, I suggest you look somewhere other than an abortion thread, or I at least suggest you read some books on the subject before calling me ignorant.

Of course, I should be thanking you. You try to assassinate my character right after you do the same for the pope, of all people. That puts me in pretty good company.

i doubt the Pope would be writing things like:

And you continue to spew your ignorant tripe at an amazing rate. Congratulations - your parents must be so proud.

 

[AcidicFury]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: RealityTime

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Sounds about right. GWB has a lot of people proud of attacking a people who did us no harm. They don't even care that they were tricked.

Of course, nevermind that Saddam and sons did plenty of damage to the Iraqi people, I mean who needs to pay attention to that, right? I mean they were HIS people, he had every right to gas them and toss their corpses into mass graves!

Jason

So I guess there ought to be a regime change in the usa than ? Bush should be ousted for his responsibility for the deaths of young us soldiers who he sent to an illegal and unjustified war. I mean they were HIS people, he had every right to send them to a warzone to make his cronies happy.

Actually the war is ENTIRELY legal, and there are plenty of Constitutional Attorneys who will tell you so. I happen to know a Constitutional Attorney with PLF who's studied the issue in depth: It's legal.

And as for unjustified, I'm afraid you're just WRONG there. Anytime there is a dictator who abuses his citizens as Saddam did, a third party is ALWAYS justified in interceding on behalf of the victims, whether asked or not.

Nice way to get the thread off topic though.

Jason

I'm not sure you really understand what the difference between "legal" and "right" is. Is it legal to create the Patriot Act? Sure. Is it right? No. How about those torture memos that this new guy Gonzalez was supporting? Sure, they might be legal to most Bush supporters, but are they right? I guess we can bypass Geneva Conventions, because according to Bush & Co., these terrorists are not real people. Geneva Conventions exist in order to protect humanity as a whole in war, and they are not meant to be taken for granted.

Also, your constitutional attorney argument is a load of bull, as lawyers can skew things whichever way they want. Thomas Jefferson originally said this, that the wording of the Constitution makes it open to a lot of false interpretations.

Finally, about your dictator abusing citizens, well, we didn't go into Rwanda did we? When there were almost a million people being killed in a genocide? Guess not. Doesn't have oil.

 

[AcidicFury]

Originally posted by: piasabird
The Pope is a joke.

The Pope is an Anti-Christ.

It is wrong telling priests they can not marry. It is unnatural.

The Catholic church sent people to the crusade to kill jews and syrians and anyone else that opposed them over some little bit of land. It was vanity.

You are a tard who doesn't understand the Catholic Church. Sure, they get a bad rap for things they have done, but now, with the exception of the child abuse scandal, we are a lot more loving than most religions. And BTW, take a theology class or a history of the Church class before you just say that priests marrying is unnatural. Your arguments hold no water.

 

[kage69]

And BTW, take a theology class or a history of the Church class before you just say that priests marrying is unnatural.

I think he was saying the church preventing the pair-bond is unnatural. Seeing as how it relates more to the issue of property and wealth than it does spirituality, I'm inclined to agree with him.

 

[AcidicFury]

The reason that priests historically were not allowed to marry is because the Church wanted all the property that they held back once the priest died. Since even to this day, the Church pays for the lodging, food, health insurance, and all of these little necessities for the priest, they would like to at least know they are getting property back after they died.

Also, the spiritual reason why they cannot marry is that they should not be held back by certain "worldly chores." They are supposed to love God first and foremost.

 

[kage69]

Grubby lil Romans, ain't they?

Oh, and it's not a spiritual reason, it's a religious reason. Spirituality is an intrinsic human facet, as is the pair-bond. If a decree of sorts goes contrary to something natural, it is by definition unnatural. Other religious establishments don't withhold the right of marriage from their clergy, doesn't seem to affect their 'spiritual duties' at all (seems to keep the lawsuits down too).

 

[AcidicFury]

Originally posted by: kage69
Grubby lil Romans, ain't they?

Oh, and it's not a spiritual reason, it's a religious reason. Spirituality is an intrinsic human facet, as is the pair-bond. If a decree of sorts goes contrary to something natural, it is be definition unnatural[i/]. Other religious establishments don't withhold the right of marriage from their clergy, doesn't seem to affect their 'spiritual duties' at all (seems to keep the lawsuits down too).

Eh, they're Protestants, and thus, wrong. I'm feeling a bit close-minded tonight...😛

 

[kage69]

Eh, they're Protestants, and thus, wrong. I'm feeling a bit close-minded tonight..

Silly Protestants, I guess they just didn't see that part in the bible that forbids priests to take wives.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: kage69

Eh, they're Protestants, and thus, wrong. I'm feeling a bit close-minded tonight..

Silly Protestants, I guess they just didn't see that part in the bible that forbids priests to take wives.

Obviously you have no idea regarding the role of priests in Catholicism nor the reasons for why they do not marry. Almost every priest I know works more than 16 hours a day. They also get paid a grand total of $14,000 a year. They must be doing it for the financial perks. :roll:

 

[Mo0o]

You know you're in trouble when the pope thinks you're too rightwing

 

[kage69]

Obviously you have no idea regarding the role of priests in Catholicism nor the reasons for why they do not marry. Almost every priest I know works more than 16 hours a day. They also get paid a grand total of $14,000 a year. They must be doing it for the financial perks.

Obviously you should save it for someone who gives a damn what your retarded ass thinks.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: kage69

Obviously you have no idea regarding the role of priests in Catholicism nor the reasons for why they do not marry. Almost every priest I know works more than 16 hours a day. They also get paid a grand total of $14,000 a year. They must be doing it for the financial perks.

Obviously you should save it for someone who gives a damn what your retarded ass thinks.

ROFL.