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Pope Benedict to step down on February 28

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On Netflix check out "The Borgias", to see how different today's Popes are from when they began. Actually he lasted longer than these Popes:

  1. Urban VII (15–27 September 1590): reigned for 13 calendar days, died before coronation.
  2. Boniface VI (April 896): reigned for 16 calendar days
  3. Celestine IV (25 October – 10 November 1241): reigned for 17 calendar days, died before consecration.
  4. Theodore II (December 897): reigned for 20 calendar days
  5. Sisinnius (15 January – 4 February 708): reigned for 21 calendar days
  6. Marcellus II (9 April – 1 May 1555): reigned for 22 calendar days
  7. Damasus II (17 July – 9 August 1048): reigned for 24 calendar days
  8. Pius III (22 September – 18 October 1503): reigned for 27 calendar days
  9. Leo XI (1–27 April 1605): reigned for 27 calendar days
  10. Benedict V (22 May – 23 June 964): reigned for 33 calendar days
  11. John Paul I (26 August – 28 September 1978): reigned for 33 calendar days.
 
Bah, I should be pope. Between my progressive thinking, open mindedness and empathy towards others I think I would be just the one to bring the church into the 20th century.

Um, you do realize that the 20th century was the period between January 1, 1901 and December 31, 2000 right? 😛
 
One of the mormon guys I work with downs Mountain Dew like water. Apparently the 'no caffeine' thing is somewhat discretionary :hmm:

Which makes it like every belief of every religion. Adherents of any faith pick and choose the stuff they want to pretend to believe in and the stuff they want to ignore.
 
You know its time to retire when Altar boys don't give you a hard on anymore.

Like a faithful Catholic he pulled out early
 
Which makes it like every belief of every religion. Adherents of any faith pick and choose the stuff they want to pretend to believe in and the stuff they want to ignore.

That could relate to society in general. For the most part, we pick and choose which laws to abide by. Examples could be speeding in your car, pirating music/software, recreational drug-use, etc.
 
That could relate to society in general. For the most part, we pick and choose which laws to abide by. Examples could be speeding in your car, pirating music/software, recreational drug-use, etc.

Yeah, but there are no repercussions to not following an arbitrary religious tenet. If you choose to disobey the law, you could face fines and/or jail time. If you choose to drink caffeine...nothing really happens.

KT
 
You know its time to retire when Altar boys don't give you a hard on anymore.

Like a faithful Catholic he pulled out early

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Yeah, but there are no repercussions to not following an arbitrary religious tenet. If you choose to disobey the law, you could face fines and/or jail time. If you choose to drink caffeine...nothing really happens.

KT

I suppose. Not sure what kind of 'repercussions' there could be for that kind of offense. I would assume a more serious lack of adherance could have kicked out of the church. I'm not too certain about that though.
 
if he resigns does he revert to his original name?

So where does he go on Feb 28, to the old popes' home?


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...nedict_still_infallible_does_the_ex_pope.html


Pope Benedict XVI stunned the world today by announcing his resignation from the papacy, effective Feb. 28. He will be the first pope to step down since Gregory XII in 1415. His resignation raises several questions that the Explainer will endeavor to answer—even though the near-unprecedented nature of Benedict’s decision means that in several cases, we’ll just have to wait and see.



Should I still call him Benedict XVI, or does he go back to being Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger?


We don’t know yet what name he’ll go by. Pope Gregory XII (born Angelo Correr) continued to be known as Gregory until his death in 1417.

We also don’t know whether Benedict will become a cardinal again. He won’t automatically revert to being cardinal—he would have to be reappointed cardinal by his successor. There is some precedent for this to happen; Pope Gregory XII was appointed cardinal upon his abdication.

Benedict will definitely remain a bishop until his death, since becoming a bishop is a sacrament, and even bishops who are removed from office aren’t stripped of that title.

Where will he live?


He’ll move to the Apostolic Palace of Castel Gandolfo, the pope’s summer residence. Castel Gandolfo is a resort town on Lake Albano near Rome. Afterward, he’ll move to a monastery of nuns in the Vatican. (At the moment, he’s waiting on renovation work at the monastery to be completed.) It’s unclear whether he’ll remain in the Vatican or move elsewhere (perhaps in his native Bavaria) once he’s concluded “a period of prayer and reflection” at the monastery.



What kind of retirement benefits does the pope have? Does he get a pension?


Since no pope has retired in almost 600 years, there is no formal retirement plan for popes. However, as a bishop (and possibly a cardinal), Benedict will continue to have access to the Vatican’s lavish healthcare plan and probably also to the private doctors who currently manage his medical treatment. The pope does not officially receive a salary, though his needs are seen to by the Holy See. Canon law requires each diocese to provide support and housing for its priests after they retire, though the details of priests’ and bishops’ pension plans vary from country to country.



Will he have any say in choosing his successor?


Officially, no. Pope Benedict XVI will not participate in the papal conclave to elect the next pope. (For one thing, as previously mentioned, he may not revert to being a cardinal. For another thing, he’s too old to take part in the papal enclave—only cardinals under the age of 80 may vote.) However, Pope Benedict appointed 67 of the 118 members of the College of Cardinals who are currently eligible to participate in the election of the next pope. This means that Benedict will have had at least an indirect influence over the election.



Will he still be infallible?


No—and in fact, he’s never been infallible. In accordance with the First Vatican Council of 1870, the pope is infallible only when he makes an ex cathedra statement—that is, a statement concerning “a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.” Most popes never make ex cathedra statements during their papacy; only one infallible statement (regarding the Assumption of Mary) has been made since the First Vatican Council of 1870. Pope John XXIII was quoted as saying, “I am only infallible if I speak infallibly but I shall never do that, so I am not infallible.” Pope Benedict XVI has never spoken ex cathedra, and he will lose the ability to do so once he resigns from the papacy.



Will he maintain control of the @pontifex Twitter account, or will his successor inherit it?


It’s unclear at the moment. However, when the Vatican was choosing a handle for the pope, @benedictusppxvi was considered and rejected in favor of the more general, less personal @pontifex. This would seem to indicate the Twitter handle is attached to the office, not the man. Additionally, though Benedict personally composed his first tweet on an iPad on Dec. 12 (not without technical difficulty), most of the tweets from his account have been composed by aides. Therefore, it’s likely that control of the Twitter account will remain with the Vatican rather than with Benedict.

Thank you for your service, Pope Benedict. ()🙂

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I suppose. Not sure what kind of 'repercussions' there could be for that kind of offense. I would assume a more serious lack of adherance could have kicked out of the church. I'm not too certain about that though.

True. I have no idea where the line is drawn either, but I suppose that could be one of the possible ramifications.

KT
 
Anyway, good riddance to that creepy fuck. Dude gave me nightmares and I'm not even in his preferred demographic.

KT
 
That could relate to society in general. For the most part, we pick and choose which laws to abide by. Examples could be speeding in your car, pirating music/software, recreational drug-use, etc.

No, we really don't. Most people obey most of the laws. And unlike religion, people do not get to exempt themselves from laws they don't like. I've never once been able to stand up and say: "Bullshit!! I'm allowed to speed and park anyplace I damn well please!" Yet in religion that's exactly what happens. All the sects and sub-sects and sub-sub-sects are people formalizing which tenets of the old religion they want to follow and which they don't. In Christianity alone you've got about 10 Major branches and 1000 minor ones started just because somebody threw a hissy fit about having to obey "god's laws" and instead invented a whole new set of "god's laws" that they wanted to use while tossing aside all of "god's laws" that were inconvenient to follow. And none of the followers of any of those 10 major religions and 1000+ minor religions ever questions why or how they all claim to follow the same god based on the same book and do it in completely contradictory ways without wondering why god doesn't bother to inform the others that they're full of shit. And none of the millions upon millions of believers in any of those offshoots really follows the religion they claim, not 100% anyway. They just self-invent new versions of those religions that suit themselves and follow away merrily whistling that that's what the invisible man in the sky really wants. The Catholic Church claims to have 1.2 billion followers. BULLSHIT!! They have no followers. They have 1.2 billion people following whatever version of the faith that suits them and god can go piss up a rope if he doesn't like it.
 
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