Pootin and Obummer are going to get us all nuked.

[Vic Vega]

Nice work, boys. You're collectively rolling back almost 25 years of peace over a d*ck waving contest.

I'm a US citizen, born and raised. I have no hate or aggression towards your average Russian, and I am sure the average Russian has similar feelings with regards to average Americans. Our governments and leaders though, have a hard on for each other. :thumbsdown: They are both taking our countries down a road that the citizens will not benefit from and, could potentially cause us permanent harm.

At least we can get Obummer out of office relatively soon, Pootin seems to be staying put unfortunately - Russians should do something about that.

 

[AntonioHG]

So far, majority of what I've read that he's doing too little. You can't have it both ways.

 

[boomerang]

Palin told us this was going to happen. Romney told us this was going to happen. So did Boehner. http://americanthinker.com/2014/07/john_boehner_vindicated_on_foreign_policy.html

It’s nothing short of astounding how recent history has validated Republican foreign policy analysis where Russia is concerned. And it’s tragic how ineffective Republicans have been in translating their prescient analysis into tangible policies that serve America.

Sarah Palin correctly predicted Vladimir Putin’s current incursion into Ukraine. Mitt Romney correctly identified Russia as the biggest geopolitical threat to U.S. security. (Newsweek’s August 1 cover will call Vladimir Putin “the West’s public enemy #1,” while Time will announce Putin’s “dangerous game” and his “the new cold war.”)

But hindsight shows that the brightest star in the Republican ranks was quite likely House Speaker John Boehner.

Back in October 2011, Boehner gave a speech at the conservative think-tank the Heritage Foundation. He correctly predicted that if the U.S. did not turn away from the cowardly policy of appeasement pursued by Barack Obama and towards the values-oriented policies of Thatcher and Reagan, the U.S. would see neo-Soviet resurgence and aggression from Russia.

Obama heard about it in the news. When you put people in positions of great power that are out of their league, shit like this happens. Qualifications are important and voting 'present' isn't one of them.

Will anything be learned from the failed experiment called the Obama presidency?

 

[sao123]

Nice work, boys. You're collectively rolling back almost 25 years of peace over a d*ck waving contest.

I'm a US citizen, born and raised. I have no hate or aggression towards your average Russian, and I am sure the average Russian has similar feelings with regards to average Americans. Our governments and leaders though, have a hard on for each other. :thumbsdown: They are both taking our countries down a road that the citizens will not benefit from and, could potentially cause us permanent harm.

At least we can get Obummer out of office relatively soon, Pootin seems to be staying put unfortunately - Russians should do something about that.

apparently you never watched Rocky 4 as a child.

 

[werepossum]

Interesting - we have some people blaming Obama because of his policy of appeasement and some people blaming Obama because of his policy of overturning Ukraine's legitimately elected government. Personally I don't believe either is correct. I think Ukraine's recall is from the Ukrainian people, and Russia's reaction is 100% due to Putin not being willing to have Ukraine leave his sphere of control. I don't think Obama's perceived weakness really played into this; I think Putin would have reacted largely the same even if Reagan were still President. (Although it is arguable that Zombie Reagan might not have the same reverence for life.)

But this has all been said here before, so

Meh.

 

[brycejones]

Nice work, boys. You're collectively rolling back almost 25 years of peace over a d*ck waving contest.

I'm a US citizen, born and raised. I have no hate or aggression towards your average Russian, and I am sure the average Russian has similar feelings with regards to average Americans. Our governments and leaders though, have a hard on for each other. :thumbsdown: They are both taking our countries down a road that the citizens will not benefit from and, could potentially cause us permanent harm.

At least we can get Obummer out of office relatively soon, Pootin seems to be staying put unfortunately - Russians should do something about that.

Hold on...I though people were pissed that Obama wasn't doing enough.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Get us all naked??? Say it isn't so!!!

 

[SMOGZINN]

Hold on...I though people were pissed that Obama wasn't doing enough.

No, people are primarily pissed because Obama is black.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Get us all naked??? Say it isn't so!!!

This was foreseen.

 

[smackababy]

Dick waving contest? I am glad our president is black then! Take that Russian scum!

 

[Babbles]

Does that mean my wife and I wouldn't have to worry about our student loans anymore?

 

[Kadarin]

On one hand, Obama is going to get us nuked. On the other, we're not doing enough to oppose Russia.

I realize you hate Obama not matter what he does, but you can't have it both ways.

 

[zinfamous]

Dick waving contest? I am glad our president is black then! Take that Russian scum!

This presents an interesting rebuttal to the photo comparisons of Putin fake-riding a bear and Obama riding a bicycle.

:hmm:

 

[Nebor]

Our President isn't waving his dick enough, and I'm sick of it.

 

[Angry Irishman]

You can't bargain and concede to things while gaining nothing in return with bullies and that's what's happened from day one of this presidency. Now Obama is damned if he does or damned if he doesn't do anything as a result. Look what happens to the world when america comes off as weak and backs up being weak at every turn.

Send Hillary with a reset button (even that useless diplomacy gesture was fucked up)....that should help.

 

[alcoholbob]

Isn't the usual liberal response to a conservative being right that a broken clock is right twice a day?

 

[Spungo]

Hold on...I though people were pissed that Obama wasn't doing enough.

We've learned absolutely nothing from 1962. What happened ~50 years ago? Russia extended itself into our sphere of influence by putting nuclear warheads in Cuba, which is right next to Florida. We didn't like that. President Kennedy took a hard stand and demanded the missiles be removed. USA and Russia eventually worked out a deal so Russia would remove missiles from Cuba, and USA would remove missiles from Turkey.

Today, it's the same basic thing, but reversed. Instead of Russia expanding its influence into Cuba, this is NATO trying to expand into Ukraine. Ukraine borders Russia, so this makes Russia a little uneasy. Like Kennedy, Putin is putting his foot down and saying he won't let this happen. Sevastopol in Crimea is like Russia's version of Guam, so Russia quickly moved into Crimea and dug in their heels so it could not be taken by NATO. The people in Crimea are ethnic Russians who speak Russian, so making Crimea part of Russia makes sense. Similar to how the US gave stingers missiles to Afghans to fight Russians, Russia is giving weapons to rebels in east Ukraine who see themselves as defenders against a NATO invasion.

What makes Obama dangerous is that he doesn't seem to understand the seriousness of the situation. Not understanding history or culture seems to be a recurring theme in the things Obama says and does. He was talking about bringing democracy to Afghanistan or Iraq or something like that, and McCain correctly pointed out that Obama is talking about bringing democracy to people who have no concept of democracy; these are people who are living the same way people lived when Alexander The Great was alive. Another screwup was sending paratroopers to Poland. In America, paratroopers are just paratroopers. In Russia and other parts of Europe, saying the word "paratrooper" is like saying "storm trooper" or "blitzkrieg". They don't think of friendly soldiers. They remember German paratroopers invading their country. Saying that you're sending American paratroopers to Poland (which borders Russia) sets off alarm bells. First Russians hear that NATO is taking over Ukraine, then they hear NATO paratroopers are in Poland. They've heard this before, and it was followed by ~10 million Russian soldiers being killed in the largest war in history. Naturally, Putin responds by test firing nuclear delivery systems, tightening relations with China and India, dumping US treasuries, stockpiling gold, and talking softly on the world stage so nobody can justify a preemptive strike against him. Russia is playing the "good guy" at this time to weaken Obama's public support. Russia was the one that leaked the "fuck the EU" phone conversation. Russia gave asylum to Edward Snowden after he blew the whistle on NSA spying. Russia is the one uncovering all of the NSA spying against America's European allies.

My hat goes off to Putin for doing his best to avoid WW3. He managed to defuse the Syria situation even though Obama and the media were pushing for war. Now Putin is doing his best to turn Europe against the US, which might prevent Obama and his neocon buddies from starting a war.

 

[Texashiker]

Nice work, boys. You're collectively rolling back almost 25 years of peace over a d*ck waving contest.

What is Putin doing wrong? He is just doing what Russians do and have been doing for a long time.

obama on the other hand, he is acting like a bully.

So what if Russia is causing some conflict, it does not affect us. Unless it directly affects you, it is none of your business.

All this stuff with the Ukraine that is like cousins fighting. Let them fight it out.

If the world goes to Russia, it will be over stuff that is none of our business.

 

[sportage]

No. No Obama nuked.
The fact is Palin and McCain and Romney would have gotten us nuked.
Besides, how the hell would anyone know what Romney would actually have done?
Its easy to sit on the side lines and gripe, but Mitten's has no record nor history with being some master mind concerning global affairs.
Palin is insane and thats where it starts and stops. The only people dumber than Palin are the people that think she has a brain.

If Romney were president, his knee jerk reaction would be with following the Bush agenda.
Hire all the same old war hawks, same bull crap, and you know how they all went down.
The only answer they ever have for any problem would be a war.

Obama is hitting Putin where it hurts most, his pocket book.
So when Obama's policy proves the correct route, I doubt anyone in the media nor from the right wing will give any credit.
Or admit Obama was right.
That is not in their nature.

Economic sanctions are a little subtle way to piss off Putin.
And it works.
In todays world, war is useless. We kill them, they kill us, and on and on it goes.
But $$$ money?
Money hits their soft spot hard where no bomb or droid could never reach.
Like a swift kick in the old money-balls.
Putin isn't just mad, Putin is steaming.
And Putin will quietly fold, quietly, as to not appear weak.
Right not the real challenge is to give Putin a way out, while saving face, but some way out.
We all know how it feels when the old credit card comes up DECLINED.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Obama mentions the word nuclear; AAAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!! It is a full out Muslim Communist assault on 'Murica!!!!!

Putin takes off his shirt and threatens to beat the steaming shit out of Obama; *glug* *glug* Oh my,... *glug* *glug* you are SO strong Putin,.. *glug*glug* so powerful,..

 

[Texashiker]

Obama is hitting Putin where it hurts most, his pocket book.
So when Obama's policy proves the correct route, I doubt anyone in the media nor from the right wing will give any credit.
Or admit Obama was right.
That is not in their nature.

You realize economic sanctions against Germany contributed to WW II?

For the most part, economic sanctions only isolate people. In this case Russia will be driven to ally with China.

 

[Spungo]

Obama is hitting Putin where it hurts most, his pocket book.

So.... you're saying Obama is destroying America because it would hurt Russia? Strangely, that's what Putin said. Putin said America would cut its nose off to spite its face.

Obama said he would kick Putin out of the dollar system. What do you think happens to the value of the US dollar when the world's #1 or #2 oil producer, and source of most of Europe's natural gas, is forced to stop selling oil in dollars? On top of that, what do you think happens when Obama and Kerry (mostly Kerry) back themselves into a corner and force Europe to pick sides between America and Russia? Russia is their source of natural gas and oil. America is their source of nothing. They don't buy American products (because there are none), and all we pay them is dollars that we create out of thin air. If those dollars cannot be used to buy oil (due to Obama's sanctions), why would they accept US dollars for anything? Why would China want our dollars? Remember that Russia and China are right next to each other. China gets a lot of oil from Russia. Not being able to buy oil with dollars means China wouldn't want dollars.
This is how a country loses its status as the world's reserve currency, and that single event would drastically lower the average American's standard of living. Imagine the cost of everything immediately going up 10-20%. Instead of printing dollars to buy oil, we would need to print dollars to buy euros to buy oil
Not being able to buy oil with dollars would also mean investors would demand loans be paid in a different currency; one that can be used to buy oil. US government debt might be counted in yuan instead of dollars.

The Obama administration is also working on destroying the US banking system by destroying the credibility of American rating agencies. What happened when S&P downgraded the rating of US government debt? The Obama administration sued the hell out of them. How dare they give accurate bond ratings?! Then the Obama administration pressured them into slashing Russia's bond rating after the Ukraine coup even though Russia's financial situation is light years ahead of states like Illinois or California. This is how you destroy a banking system.

 

[werepossum]

What is Putin doing wrong? He is just doing what Russians do and have been doing for a long time.

obama on the other hand, he is acting like a bully.

So what if Russia is causing some conflict, it does not affect us. Unless it directly affects you, it is none of your business.

All this stuff with the Ukraine that is like cousins fighting. Let them fight it out.

If the world goes to Russia, it will be over stuff that is none of our business.

Hmm. Putin is occupying and annexing part of another sovereign nation, massing his military openly on the border, openly sending elite Russian troops (albeit without insignia) into Ukraine, and shooting down Ukrainian planes (and perhaps a civilian airliner) inside Ukraine, and OBAMA is acting like a bully?

That's some original logic, dude.

 

[Texashiker]

Hmm. Putin is occupying and annexing part of another sovereign nation, massing his military openly on the border, openly sending elite Russian troops (albeit without insignia) into Ukraine, and shooting down Ukrainian planes (and perhaps a civilian airliner) inside Ukraine, and OBAMA is acting like a bully?

That's some original logic, dude.

Iraq and Afghanistan.

Where are the sanctions against the USA?

Not only did we invade a sovereign nation, we overthrew its government, put the president on trial and helped execute him.

Not like we have a lot of room to talk.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Putin is threatening the EU with higher gas prices.
Russia is blocking the import of fruit and vegetables from Poland because of a so called contamination. But of course it is because of the EU sanctions against Russia.

When the exploitation of the Aphrodite gas field near Cyprus is ready in 2015, it could become interesting. Then the EU would be less dependent on gas from Russia.
I think the gas field is the primary reason why Greece has been helped so much financially in the past. I bet that in 2015 Greece will start making money and start paying off their debts very quickly.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_gas_field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Triangle