Poor people food: Lobster

[ponyo]

there's a restaurant on the beach down here with all you can eat lobster (wednesdays) and king crab (fridays). not terribly expensive... maybe $55/pp for maine lobster.

I think I maxed out one night at 9 lobsters. That was an... interesting... drive home.

My max is 6 chicken lobsters. After the 3rd or 4th one, it just start tasting like you’re eating rubber. Same with king crab. I get sick of the stuff and can’t eat more than 5 pounds at one sitting.

 

[zinfamous]

This gets repeated a lot. I don't think they were prepared & cooked properly like we eat 'em today. It was all ground up and gross.

You get sick of anything if that's all you have to eat, every single day. That, and there was this stigma, mostly religion-based, that certain foods were considered "base" or even evil. ...and that kind of thinking clings on today.

 

[Zeze]

You get sick of anything if that's all you have to eat, every single day. That, and there was this stigma, mostly religion-based, that certain foods were considered "base" or even evil. ...and that kind of thinking clings on today.

Thanks.. not sure why you replied to me with that.

 

[rh71]

My max is 6 chicken lobsters. After the 3rd or 4th one, it just start tasting like you’re eating rubber. Same with king crab. I get sick of the stuff and can’t eat more than 5 pounds at one sitting.

Rubber is a good way to put it. Some people will just eat something (usually seafood) because it's considered a high cost food. Like abalone or escargot. It's usually texture or taste for favorable food and none of those are either. In my opinion of course. Eat what you want, I just don't see the draw.

 

[ponyo]

Rubber is a good way to put it. Some people will just eat something (usually seafood) because it's considered a high cost food. Like abalone or escargot. It's usually texture or taste for favorable food and none of those are either. In my opinion of course. Eat what you want, I just don't see the draw.

Anything will taste bad when you're extremely full and overindulge. The first bite is always the best. Abalone and escargot are awesome. Sea snails and conchs are awesome too. I love the taste and texture of abalone, escargot, sea snails, and conchs. I ate lot of conchs when I was in Turks and Caicos. I ate conch salad, cracked conch, and conch fritters.

You don't see the draw because you don't love food, especially seafood. Me, I LOVE seafood and am willing to travel to get it. I'm flying halfway around the world in couple weeks to the port city of Busan, South Korea, just to eat fresh seafood. That's the whole purpose of the trip. Live stuff I can't get here. I booked my hotel next to the biggest wholesale seafood market in Korea. The seafood market is 5 minute walk from the hotel I will be staying at.

 

[Exterous]

not a fan of sea cockroaches

It seems a lot of people just treat them as over priced butter delivery devices.

I love Lobster!

Are you sure it's not just the 5lbs of butter you put on it?

 

[whm1974]

It seems a lot of people just treat them as over priced butter delivery devices.



Are you sure it's not just the 5lbs of butter you put on it?

Isn't that a special kind of butter infused with garlic?

 

[CurrentlyPissed]

I want to know who came up with the idea to cook insects of the ocean to eat.

I mean, people eat cockroaches, crickets, and many other things. It's not that hard of a concept.

 

[JEDI]

Rubber is a good way to put it. Some people will just eat something (usually seafood) because it's considered a high cost food. Like abalone or escargot.
It's usually texture or taste for favorable food and none of those are either. In my opinion of course. Eat what you want, I just don't see the draw.

I love the taste of abalone but never ate a whole lot at a time because it wasn't all you can eat buffet.
1 dish shared by immediate family.

also, I've seen lobster at high end all you can eat seafood buffets but I've never seen abalone offered

 

[JEDI]

I'm flying halfway around the world in couple weeks to the port city of Busan, South Korea, just to eat fresh seafood. That's the whole purpose of the trip.
Live stuff I can't get here.
I booked my hotel next to the biggest wholesale seafood market in Korea. The seafood market is 5 minute walk from the hotel I will be staying at.

what can you get there fresh that you cant get in the US?

 

[rh71]

I love the taste of abalone but never ate a whole lot at a time because it wasn't all you can eat buffet.
1 dish shared by immediate family.

also, I've seen lobster at high end all you can eat seafood buffets but I've never seen abalone offered

We're asian so every special occasion large family dinner they order the abalone for every table. Because you know, it's expensive - like the shark fin soup. Not all of it gets eaten and only the older generation folks usually touch it.

 

[zinfamous]

Thanks.. not sure why you replied to me with that.

because you were assuming that people hated it because of the way they prepared it, without any knowledge of how they prepared it, rather than because it was the primary food source that they consumed every single day.

 

[Jimzz]

Why in hell would anyone want to ban potatoes from being brought with EBT? First time I've heard of that.

Thought it sounded like BS but its not...

Wisconsin Republicans Don’t Want Food Stamp Recipients Buying Beans, Potatoes, Pasta Sauce
"The law would restrict access to a whole range of commonplace ingredients. Some of the things that would be harder to buy for poor families who cook include “herbs, spices, or seasonings,” all nuts, red and yellow potatoes, smoothies, spaghetti sauce, “soups, salsas, ketchup,” sauerkraut, pickles, dried beans sold in bulk, and white or albacore tuna."

https://thinkprogress.org/wisconsin...ying-beans-potatoes-pasta-sauce-d9407864cef0/

 

[whm1974]

Thought it sounded like BS but its not...

Wisconsin Republicans Don’t Want Food Stamp Recipients Buying Beans, Potatoes, Pasta Sauce
"The law would restrict access to a whole range of commonplace ingredients. Some of the things that would be harder to buy for poor families who cook include “herbs, spices, or seasonings,” all nuts, red and yellow potatoes, smoothies, spaghetti sauce, “soups, salsas, ketchup,” sauerkraut, pickles, dried beans sold in bulk, and white or albacore tuna."

https://thinkprogress.org/wisconsin...ying-beans-potatoes-pasta-sauce-d9407864cef0/

And did they expect poor people to eat? Potatoes, dried beans, and tuna has been stables of poor folks since I was going up.

 

[ponyo]

what can you get there fresh that you cant get in the US?

Everything. If it's found in the ocean, they sell it there. And if it's local catch, it will be alive when you buy it. I still dream about the live seafood stew I ate in Jeju island , South Korea, 19 years ago. I ate that on my honeymoon trip and that's still the best seafood stew I've had in my life. I'm hoping the seafood stew in Busan is just as good. Busan is super close to Jeju island and supposed to have really good seafood so that's why I'm going there. It'll be my first visit to Busan which is the second largest city in Korea after Seoul.

 

[BUTCH1]

ocean cockroaches

Why would anyone make that comparison?, just because it lives on the bottom and is an opportunistic scavenger does not equate it to a "cockroach", those live in swill and filth and their presence is associated with carrying disease, none of which applies to a lobster. Crabs often also live on the bottom and scavenge and are also extremely expensive and quite tasty. I'd bet you like chicken despite them being raised in a cage so small they cannot even turn around, if you got near a chicken processing plant the smell would not be nice at all.

 

[BUTCH1]

Anything will taste bad when you're extremely full and overindulge. The first bite is always the best. Abalone and escargot are awesome. Sea snails and conchs are awesome too. I love the taste and texture of abalone, escargot, sea snails, and conchs. I ate lot of conchs when I was in Turks and Caicos. I ate conch salad, cracked conch, and conch fritters.

You don't see the draw because you don't love food, especially seafood. Me, I LOVE seafood and am willing to travel to get it. I'm flying halfway around the world in couple weeks to the port city of Busan, South Korea, just to eat fresh seafood. That's the whole purpose of the trip. Live stuff I can't get here. I booked my hotel next to the biggest wholesale seafood market in Korea. The seafood market is 5 minute walk from the hotel I will be staying at.

So you plan on buying fresh seafood and cook it at your hotel room?, probably cool in Korea but here in the states the "seafood pussies" would run you out. I hate seafood pussies with a passion, "oh, I'll eat fish that isn't fishy", huh?, would these idiots like a steak that taste's like fake meat?.

 

[ponyo]

So you plan on buying fresh seafood and cook it at your hotel room?, probably cool in Korea but here in the states the "seafood pussies" would run you out. I hate seafood pussies with a passion, "oh, I'll eat fish that isn't fishy", huh?, would these idiots like a steak that taste's like fake meat?.

No, I'm not going to be doing any cooking at the hotel. I would've stayed in Airbnb rental if I was going to cook. The way these seafood markets work is that you select the seafood you want and the vendor prepares it all for you right there on the spot. Say there's live fish you want swimming in the tank. You tell them you want to buy that fish and how you want prepared. If you want it raw and sashimi style, they will kill the fish right in front of you, filet it, and slice it for you. You can eat it on the spot or you can take the raw fish slices upstairs where the entire floor is restaurants you can go in and sit and eat your fish. You pay the restaurant around $4 per person. What that $4 buys you is table for you to sit and eat. They provide you with free side dishes and vegetables to eat with your fish and free condiments and sauces. And they will take the leftover fish head, bones, and tail from the fish you purchased and make you spicy fish soup to finish out your meal. It's really great system. So it's like going to the restaurant and ordering the food except you pick out the exact seafood you want and how you want it prepared.

Here's video how it works. That guy in the video doesn't eat raw fish so he had the fish grilled and also got some shellfish steamed. He didn't get the spicy fish soup at the end of the meal because he had his fish grilled whole instead of eating it raw. He did get some ramen though.

There are several large seafood markets in Busan. The above video is the one I'm staying next to. There's also one market that specializes in crab which I'll probably visit as well. http://boundforbusan.com/2015/07/gijang-crab-marke.html

 

[grimham]

The worst lobster I ever had was "African Lobster" I believe. Actually it was the only bad lobster I've ever had, all the rest were Maine lobsters.

 

[Jeeebus]

[QUOTE="ponyo, post: 39765670, member: 81873"You tell them you want to buy that fish and how you want prepared. If you want it raw and sashimi style, they will kill the fish right in front of you, filet it, and slice it for you. You can eat it on the spot or you can take the raw fish slices upstairs where the entire floor is restaurants you can go in and sit and eat your fish.[/QUOTE]

As with everything in life, the Simpsons did it first and better.

 

[WelshBloke]

No, I'm not going to be doing any cooking at the hotel. I would've stayed in Airbnb rental if I was going to cook. The way these seafood markets work is that you select the seafood you want and the vendor prepares it all for you right there on the spot. Say there's live fish you want swimming in the tank. You tell them you want to buy that fish and how you want prepared. If you want it raw and sashimi style, they will kill the fish right in front of you, filet it, and slice it for you. You can eat it on the spot or you can take the raw fish slices upstairs where the entire floor is restaurants you can go in and sit and eat your fish. You pay the restaurant around $4 per person. What that $4 buys you is table for you to sit and eat. They provide you with free side dishes and vegetables to eat with your fish and free condiments and sauces. And they will take the leftover fish head, bones, and tail from the fish you purchased and make you spicy fish soup to finish out your meal. It's really great system. So it's like going to the restaurant and ordering the food except you pick out the exact seafood you want and how you want it prepared.

Here's video how it works. That guy in the video doesn't eat raw fish so he had the fish grilled and also got some shellfish steamed. He didn't get the spicy fish soup at the end of the meal because he had his fish grilled whole instead of eating it raw. He did get some ramen though.

There are several large seafood markets in Busan. The above video is the one I'm staying next to. There's also one market that specializes in crab which I'll probably visit as well. http://boundforbusan.com/2015/07/gijang-crab-marke.html

That is pretty great! I'd love to do that.

 

[JEDI]

No, I'm not going to be doing any cooking at the hotel. I would've stayed in Airbnb rental if I was going to cook. The way these seafood markets work is that you select the seafood you want and the vendor prepares it all for you right there on the spot. Say there's live fish you want swimming in the tank. You tell them you want to buy that fish and how you want prepared. If you want it raw and sashimi style, they will kill the fish right in front of you, filet it, and slice it for you. You can eat it on the spot or you can take the raw fish slices upstairs where the entire floor is restaurants you can go in and sit and eat your fish. You pay the restaurant around $4 per person. What that $4 buys you is table for you to sit and eat. They provide you with free side dishes and vegetables to eat with your fish and free condiments and sauces. And they will take the leftover fish head, bones, and tail from the fish you purchased and make you spicy fish soup to finish out your meal. It's really great system. So it's like going to the restaurant and ordering the food except you pick out the exact seafood you want and how you want it prepared.

Here's video how it works. That guy in the video doesn't eat raw fish so he had the fish grilled and also got some shellfish steamed. He didn't get the spicy fish soup at the end of the meal because he had his fish grilled whole instead of eating it raw. He did get some ramen though.

There are several large seafood markets in Busan. The above video is the one I'm staying next to. There's also one market that specializes in crab which I'll probably visit as well. http://boundforbusan.com/2015/07/gijang-crab-marke.html

interesting.. each vendor is also the chef that cooks your meal?
so you're basically picking by the cooking skills since im assuming every vendor has the same fresh seafood?

 

[ponyo]

interesting.. each vendor is also the chef that cooks your meal?
so you're basically picking by the cooking skills since im assuming every vendor has the same fresh seafood?

Yes and no. There are hundreds of vendors and not everyone sells the same thing. Usually these large markets are divided in sections and certain sections of the market specializes and sell particular kind seafood. The vendors in that section will sell similar seafood. So yes, they sell the same fresh seafood but only in that section of the market. Prices will be similar as well but can vary slightly from vendor to vendor. Same with the quality of the seafood. Depending on how much you buy, how good you're at haggling, and if they like you, you can score cheaper prices or bonus free items. And they do prepare your food but most people eat the fish raw sashimi style so there's really no cooking involved. All the vendors there are masters at cutting fish sashimi style. It's what they do everyday. Very few people ask for their fish to be grilled and cooked like the guy in the video. There are much better places and restaurants in the city to eat grilled fish than at this type of seafood market. At market like this, you should eat the fish raw and shellfish raw or steamed.

In Korea, there are streets/alleyways where every restaurant in that alley/street just serves grilled mackerel. Another alleyway that just serves grilled beltfish. Another alleyway where they just serve grilled eels. So on. Those are the places to go eat grilled fish and not at giant general seafood market like above. And no one should eat cold water Maine lobster in Korea. You can get the same or better cold water lobsters here in the US. It killed me when the guy in the video said he doesn't eat raw seafood and when I saw he had ordered Maine lobster. That's just wasted opportunity.

 

[whm1974]

@ponyo I wouldn't eat raw seafood either, but I certianly wouldn't be eating Maine lobster in Korea. I thought that eating a another culture's foods was one of the points of visiting other countries?

 

[ponyo]

@ponyo I wouldn't eat raw seafood either, but I certianly wouldn't be eating Maine lobster in Korea. I thought that eating a another culture's foods was one of the points of visiting other countries?

Well to be fair, his videos did help me in choosing where to eat Korean BBQ in Busan. My daughter doesn't really eat seafood so I wanted to find great Korean BBQ restaurant to go to in Busan for her. Then I saw this video of his where he went to BBQ restaurant and waited almost 90 minutes for a table. That kind of long wait for restaurant in Korea is unheard of so I did some research on the BBQ restaurant he went to in the video below. It turns out that BBQ restaurant is really good and considered having the best BBQ beef in all of Korea outside of Seoul. So of course I'm 100% going there when I visit Busan. But he ate marinated beef ribs in the video because the plain beef ribs were sold out. Through research I found out the plain beef ribs are always sold out and must be reserved like 2 days in advance if you want to order it at the restaurant. You can't order on the spot at the restaurant as they will always tell you it's completely sold out. The plain beef ribs served at the restaurant are from number 5,6, and 7 plate ribs of the cow. The marinated beef ribs are from chuck short ribs and thus cheaper. So I understand now why the plain beef ribs are more expensive at $42 per singe serving and always sold out and the marinated beef ribs are $36 per serving and always available. I'm going to place order for 10 servings of the plain beef ribs in advance as soon as I land in Busan. If I'm still hungry after 10 servings, I'll just order some marinated beef ribs to finish out the meal. And the noodles they give are actually noodles made from potatoes. So you can't eat it like regular flour noodles like he did in the video. Since it's potato noodles he needed to wait until the noodles absorbed all the liquid broth and overcooked to the point the noodles start sticking to the metal cooking grate. That's when the potato noodles are done and ready to eat. He ate it way too early before it's cooked with all the broth still remaining. Of course the noodle is not going to be good.