Poor 9600gt performance

[TigerMonsoonDragon]

my friend recently got a MSI 9600gt and installed it but performance is far under par.

socket am2 4000+ x2
2gb ram
some ecs mobo
9600gt


in games it seems to perform just a little bit above my similar system cept with 7900gtx and x2 3800+

both of us are running Xp pro

 

[AzN]

depends what games he is running. Clean driver install should be his priority.

 

[happy medium]

If he had a 6000+ cpu his system would smoke yours.
He needs more cpu for that 9600gt.

 

[KBTuning]

yep, run 3dmark06 and see what the score is... im cpu limited with two 9600GT's in SLi and an overclocked Q6600...

he did what most do and bought more video card than he can use.

 

[mentalcrisis00]

I've been running a socket 939 system with an X2 4400+, 2GB DDR333 ram, and a 7800GT for 2 years now and my friend just got a new system running an 8600GT and he actually gets a lower score than I do in 3dmark06 by about 200 points. He has comparable hardware to my own and it seems the 8600 isn't much better than my 2 year old geforce 7 card. Of course the 8600 is lower end but looking at the specs for the 9600 it's lacking in pixel pipelines and mediocre clocks compared to the 8800GS and 8800GT's so I figure it's not much better than those cards for the same price.

Anyhow I can see how the 9600 might compare to your 7900GTX, I haven't been impressed with nvidias "new technology" thus far and I don't think I'm alone. Given the choice in terms of performance to price ratio I would buy the 8800GS. I also don't overclock so diddling around with voltages and memory timings doesn't seem to be worth it IMO.

 

[cubeless]

in shader heavy games the newer card will perrform better... in older games the older cards are still fast... and a 7800gt has a bigger bus than the 8600gt... 8600gt is a low end card from the gaming perspective...

 

[TigerMonsoonDragon]

in 3dmark06 he gets 7400 and my system gets 5700

something is definately wrong i'm thinking it is drivercleaner friend doesn't agree

 

[Piuc2020]

Originally posted by: mentalcrisis00
I've been running a socket 939 system with an X2 4400+, 2GB DDR333 ram, and a 7800GT for 2 years now and my friend just got a new system running an 8600GT and he actually gets a lower score than I do in 3dmark06 by about 200 points. He has comparable hardware to my own and it seems the 8600 isn't much better than my 2 year old geforce 7 card. Of course the 8600 is lower end but looking at the specs for the 9600 it's lacking in pixel pipelines and mediocre clocks compared to the 8800GS and 8800GT's so I figure it's not much better than those cards for the same price.

Anyhow I can see how the 9600 might compare to your 7900GTX, I haven't been impressed with nvidias "new technology" thus far and I don't think I'm alone. Given the choice in terms of performance to price ratio I would buy the 8800GS. I also don't overclock so diddling around with voltages and memory timings doesn't seem to be worth it IMO.

You are obviously not very well informed, the 9600GT is a better card than the 8800GS in most cases due to the higher memory bandwidth and higher clocks, it's only limiting factor is shader units but those aren't as much a limiting factor as memory bandwidth.

3DMark is useless not only because it's not a representative of real world performance but because the CPU score is very important so it's not for card to card comparisons (unless both systems are identical) but rather system to system comparison.

The 9600GT is leaps and bounds and then some more above the 7900GTX, they just don't compare at ALL, a 9600GT is only a bit slower than a 8800GT and definitely better than the 8800GTS based on the G80 core.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020

The 9600GT is leaps and bounds and then some more above the 7900GTX, they just don't compare at ALL, a 9600GT is only a bit slower than a 8800GT and definitely better than the 8800GTS based on the G80 core.

I don't know about that, I'd think they would be pretty comparable, and would personally rather own the 8800GTS 640 than a 9600GT.

9600GT owns bang per buck, but the GTS has more memory bandwidth/memory/shaders.

 

[TigerMonsoonDragon]

is there anything besides a driver cleaner run to get this working like it should?