Pontiac has complete Solstice specifications up on their web site

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
LoL. 2.4 liter's and GM can only get 177 hp and 166 torque out of it?? That is sad.

Honda can get 240 Hp out of their 2.0 Liter VTEC motor in the S2000, and 156 torque. And this is supposed to compete. I just think its sad how much power GM is getting from these "Ecotec" motors.

You can't buy an S2k for $20-21K...

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
LoL. 2.4 liter's and GM can only get 177 hp and 166 torque out of it?? That is sad.

Honda can get 240 Hp out of their 2.0 Liter VTEC motor in the S2000, and 156 torque. And this is supposed to compete. I just think its sad how much power GM is getting from these "Ecotec" motors.

1. it probably runs on regular
2. the honda motor is a 2.2 liter
3. the honda costs 60% more! (hint: they don't really compete)
4. you're a dumbass

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
LoL. 2.4 liter's and GM can only get 177 hp and 166 torque out of it?? That is sad.

Honda can get 240 Hp out of their 2.0 Liter VTEC motor in the S2000, and 156 torque. And this is supposed to compete. I just think its sad how much power GM is getting from these "Ecotec" motors.

because um... GM doesn NEED to put more power out of that engine?

what is the base cost of an S2000? and thats EXACTLY why the S2000 is not a direct competitor in terms of pricing.

edit: OMG that car is sexy with the top up from this view

MIKE

 

[Papagayo]

The car weighs 2800lb, that's heavy for a small car..

My GTI weighs 2900lb and has 180 hp 174 torque stock.. seats 4..

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: AMDZen
LoL. 2.4 liter's and GM can only get 177 hp and 166 torque out of it?? That is sad.

Honda can get 240 Hp out of their 2.0 Liter VTEC motor in the S2000, and 156 torque. And this is supposed to compete. I just think its sad how much power GM is getting from these "Ecotec" motors.

1. it probably runs on regular
2. the honda motor is a 2.2 liter
3. the honda costs 60% more! (hint: they don't really compete)
4. you're a dumbass

QFT:beer:

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
That and the Pontiac makes 41lb-ft of torque and 35Hp more then a miata does not hurt either

Also both get 28mpg on the highway, so no Diff. there.

The 2006 Miata has 170hp and 140lb-ft of torque.

OK so their NEW engine still makes less then the "old" eco-tec motor setup.

The next gen Miata also weighs 300-400 pounds less than the Solstice.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
That and the Pontiac makes 41lb-ft of torque and 35Hp more then a miata does not hurt either

Also both get 28mpg on the highway, so no Diff. there.

The 2006 Miata has 170hp and 140lb-ft of torque.

OK so their NEW engine still makes less then the "old" eco-tec motor setup.

The next gen Miata also weighs 300-400 pounds less than the Solstice.

So you are saying its ok to make a crappy car/motor if you just keep its weight low???
First its look the new one makes more power, but still less then the OLD eco-tec. Nows its weight? Sorry but the miata is going to lose a PILE of sales when the pontiac comes out.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
LoL. 2.4 liter's and GM can only get 177 hp and 166 torque out of it?? That is sad.

Honda can get 240 Hp out of their 2.0 Liter VTEC motor in the S2000, and 156 torque. And this is supposed to compete. I just think its sad how much power GM is getting from these "Ecotec" motors.

Doesn't the S2000 engine have 240 hp at 1000000000 rpms?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
That and the Pontiac makes 41lb-ft of torque and 35Hp more then a miata does not hurt either

Also both get 28mpg on the highway, so no Diff. there.

The 2006 Miata has 170hp and 140lb-ft of torque.

OK so their NEW engine still makes less then the "old" eco-tec motor setup.

The next gen Miata also weighs 300-400 pounds less than the Solstice.

So you are saying its ok to make a crappy car/motor if you just keep its weight low???
First its look the new one makes more power, but still less then the OLD eco-tec. Nows its weight? Sorry but the miata is going to lose a PILE of sales when the pontiac comes out.

this car
looks like crap compared to this car

(im hoping i picked the new Miata btw, i searched MX5, not sure if thats the actual one or not)

MIKE

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Papagayo
The car weighs 2800lb, that's heavy for a small car..

My GTI weighs 2900lb and has 180 hp 174 torque stock.. seats 4..

Being a soft top adds a significant amount of weight to a vehicle...

Sorry but the miata is going to lose a PILE of sales when the pontiac comes out.

I think the miata is a nice buy (in part because of brand), and it's going to be cheap for a base price but I agree that the solstice will rape its sales. The miata is the ONLY cheap convertible roadster right now, and it carries with it a very effeminate notoriety. The solstice looks a lot better.

(im hoping i picked the new Miata btw, i searched MX5, not sure if thats the actual one or not)

Miata has changed so little since its inception that it doesn't really matter which one you picked.

 

[V00DOO]

Looks like a fun car to drive.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
So you are saying its ok to make a crappy car/motor if you just keep its weight low???
First its look the new one makes more power, but still less then the OLD eco-tec. Nows its weight? Sorry but the miata is going to lose a PILE of sales when the pontiac comes out.

What the hell are you on?

You stated incorrect specs earlier in the thread. I simply corrected your misinformation. I'm sure there will be plenty of comparison reviews between this two cars this summer. We'll see which is better then.

 

[desteffy]

::runs to store::

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Nice, but I think the Saturn Sky version is a little more aesthetically pleasing. What's it weigh?

I don't know...the rounded hood makes me think of a '60's Cobra. No powered roof though Nothing's cooler than the Mini Cooper's fully automatic remote control top. Ah well.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

(im hoping i picked the new Miata btw, i searched MX5, not sure if thats the actual one or not)

Miata has changed so little since its inception that it doesn't really matter which one you picked.

True, it's been a slow evolution. Here are a couple pics of all three generations side-by-side.

Front view
Rear view

Mike, the pic you posted was from current Mazdaspeed Miata, which is not the new generation.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
That and the Pontiac makes 41lb-ft of torque and 35Hp more then a miata does not hurt either

Also both get 28mpg on the highway, so no Diff. there.

The 2006 Miata has 170hp and 140lb-ft of torque.

OK so their NEW engine still makes less then the "old" eco-tec motor setup.

That's a retarded comparison, the power to weight ratio on the miata is probably better.

 

[SuperSix]

Saw a Pontiac commercial last night - says they will be in the showroom Summer '05.

It will only be amatter of time before they slap a supercharger on it, like the same motor in the Saturn Red Line, they also have a turbo model of that motor in the Saab 93 (I think that;s the model) It's a 2,3T that puts out 230HP

 

[MikeMike]

16.1 for the Solstice (weight/HP)
17.2 for the Solstice (weight/ftlb)
14.7 for the Miata (weight(2500)/HP)
17.9 for the Miata (weight(2500)/ftlb)

MIKE

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: Skoorb

(im hoping i picked the new Miata btw, i searched MX5, not sure if thats the actual one or not)

Miata has changed so little since its inception that it doesn't really matter which one you picked.

True, it's been a slow evolution. Here are a couple pics of all three generations side-by-side.

Front view
Rear view

Mike, the pic you posted was from current Mazdaspeed Miata, which is not the new generation.

Cool! Tampa Stadium! Now all we need is a competent coach. :|

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
So you are saying its ok to make a crappy car/motor if you just keep its weight low???
First its look the new one makes more power, but still less then the OLD eco-tec. Nows its weight? Sorry but the miata is going to lose a PILE of sales when the pontiac comes out.

What the hell are you on?

You stated incorrect specs earlier in the thread. I simply corrected your misinformation. I'm sure there will be plenty of comparison reviews between this two cars this summer. We'll see which is better then.

Ah no check again. ALL the specs I gave were from the makers site. Also we know how Mazda likes to overrate everything they own, sometimes so much they have to give away free stuff or offer to buy cars back.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: SuperSix
Saw a Pontiac commercial last night - says they will be in the showroom Summer '05.

It will only be amatter of time before they slap a supercharger on it, like the same motor in the Saturn Red Line, they also have a turbo model of that motor in the Saab 93 (I think that;s the model) It's a 2,3T that puts out 230HP

Read somewhere that they're going to be working on turbo 265hp versions of the Sky and Solstice.

 

[GTaudiophile]

After having seen both the Sky and Solstice in person, I would prefer the Sky.

The Sky vs. Miata debate remains to be settled. I'd probably have to get behind the wheel of both to determine that.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: SuperSix
Saw a Pontiac commercial last night - says they will be in the showroom Summer '05.

It will only be amatter of time before they slap a supercharger on it, like the same motor in the Saturn Red Line, they also have a turbo model of that motor in the Saab 93 (I think that;s the model) It's a 2,3T that puts out 230HP

Read somewhere that they're going to be working on turbo 265hp versions of the Sky and Solstice.

265hp in that small car would be insanely fun to drive. jesus... that thing would be powerful.

MIKE

 

[andylawcc]

ooh.. too heavy man, but it sure is beautiful... much better looking than Miata, but I would still go for the latter.

 

[shilala]

It looks like a short, fat chick.