POLLs: Israel vs Lebanon justified? and more questions

[Doboji]

Answer away.....

 

[RichardE]

I voted first

 

[Doboji]

any other questions I should add?

 

[RichardE]

Does the state of Israel have a right to exist?

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: RichardE
Does the state of Israel have a right to exist?

added

 

[novon]

The US is already involved. They are to Israel what Iran is to Hezbollah.

 

[lozina]

Should the US get involved... how?

Diplomatically? Applying pressure on Israel to stop their vicious attacks on innocent civilians and reign in their war dogs? YES!

Militarily? Supporitng Israel with continued arms hipments or even sending torops to aid Israel? NO!

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: lozina
Should the US get involved... how?

Diplomatically? Applying pressure on Israel to stop their vicious attacks on innocent civilians and reign in their war dogs? YES!

Militarily? Supporitng Israel with continued arms hipments or even sending torops to aid Israel? NO!

Militarily? Yes. So should Canada and England. Time to take the trash out

 

[Meuge]

I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.

Well not everyone who disagrees with Israel is an anti-semite... I think we have to be really really careful using that term, because it loses it's potency when used too freely.

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.

Well not everyone who disagrees with Israel is an anti-semite... I think we have to be really really careful using that term, because it loses it's potency when used too freely.

exactly, i'm not an antisemite, but i think that israel has gone too far. i can understand 'an eye for an eye' but once they started hitting the airport and other civilian targets i believe they made a mistake.

israel is supposed to have one of the best special forces on the planet. use them against hezbollah in southern lebanon and use guided munitions against the leadership in the north. don't make the entire population pay for something they can't get rid of due to syria and iran.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.

Well not everyone who disagrees with Israel is an anti-semite... I think we have to be really really careful using that term, because it loses it's potency when used too freely.

exactly, i'm not an antisemite, but i think that israel has gone too far. i can understand 'an eye for an eye' but once they started hitting the airport and other civilian targets i believe they made a mistake.

israel is supposed to have one of the best special forces on the planet. use them against hezbollah in southern lebanon and use guided munitions against the leadership in the north. don't make the entire population pay for something they can't get rid of due to syria and iran.

:thumbsup: If it was just Hezbollah or those who attacked Israel who were getting rubbed out I wouldn't have any problem with what Israel was doing.

 

[blackllotus]

Alright, what idiots voted "yes" for "Was Hezbollah Justified in attacking, and abducting Israeli soldiers?"?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.

Well not everyone who disagrees with Israel is an anti-semite... I think we have to be really really careful using that term, because it loses it's potency when used too freely.

exactly, i'm not an antisemite, but i think that israel has gone too far. i can understand 'an eye for an eye' but once they started hitting the airport and other civilian targets i believe they made a mistake.

israel is supposed to have one of the best special forces on the planet. use them against hezbollah in southern lebanon and use guided munitions against the leadership in the north. don't make the entire population pay for something they can't get rid of due to syria and iran.

Maybe the entire population needs to feel the heat before they will turn on these people. Making it easy on the population makes it easy on the terrorists to work. The population tolerates them because it doesnt directly affect them. When you start disrupting their lives maybe they will start to disrupt the terrorists lives.

Knocking out the airport was done to keep them from flying the two israeli soldiers out.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

Typical BS from people with nothing to stand on. Using the RACIAL/ETHICAL/RELIGIOUS Card.

I don't agree with the US giving those backstabbers any amount of money or support. I guess telling the truth is antisemitic.

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: Genx87

<SNIP>

Maybe the entire population needs to feel the heat before they will turn on these people. Making it easy on the population makes it easy on the terrorists to work. The population tolerates them because it doesnt directly affect them. When you start disrupting their lives maybe they will start to disrupt the terrorists lives.

Knocking out the airport was done to keep them from flying the two israeli soldiers out.

did you pay any attention to the hariri incident. the lebanese threw out anything syrian. unfortunately hezbollah is entrenched and is still well funded by the syrians. the lebanese can't seem to get rid of hezbollah since they are officially part of the government, especially in the south.

what they need to do is alienate hezbollah. make it so hard for them to operate and survive that nobody would be near them. right now they are losing the "hearts and minds" of the lebanese. without that it will be more difficult than it should be.

hezbollah are a bunch of thugs in the south that belive they are the ones in control. because of that they push people around threaten violence. i would call that affecting the lebanese directly, you?

bombing the airport is a disgrace. what would they fly the soldiers out on? does hezbollah even have an airplane? then i heard that they bombed the airport again so that hezbollah wouldn't receive weapons. syria is just on the other side of the bekka valley. why not just drive weapons over like they always have. just because the main road is down doesn't mean there isn't another way through.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

Most of my friends are Jewish (I live in New York City) and a VAST majority of them disagree with much of what Israel has done. Are they anti-semites?

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

When did she go bat $hit insane? Too much stress from school? The month off should help.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: Genx87

<SNIP>

Maybe the entire population needs to feel the heat before they will turn on these people. Making it easy on the population makes it easy on the terrorists to work. The population tolerates them because it doesnt directly affect them. When you start disrupting their lives maybe they will start to disrupt the terrorists lives.

Knocking out the airport was done to keep them from flying the two israeli soldiers out.

did you pay any attention to the hariri incident. the lebanese threw out anything syrian. unfortunately hezbollah is entrenched and is still well funded by the syrians. the lebanese can't seem to get rid of hezbollah since they are officially part of the government, especially in the south.

what they need to do is alienate hezbollah. make it so hard for them to operate and survive that nobody would be near them. right now they are losing the "hearts and minds" of the lebanese. without that it will be more difficult than it should be.

hezbollah are a bunch of thugs in the south that belive they are the ones in control. because of that they push people around threaten violence. i would call that affecting the lebanese directly, you?

bombing the airport is a disgrace. what would they fly the soldiers out on? does hezbollah even have an airplane? then i heard that they bombed the airport again so that hezbollah wouldn't receive weapons. syria is just on the other side of the bekka valley. why not just drive weapons over like they always have. just because the main road is down doesn't mean there isn't another way through.

I dont know, you think if the democrats or republicans setup bases in our south and attacked Mexico we as a nation would cry "they are part of our govt, we cant do anything about it"?

The excuse they are a legit part of the Lebonese govt is pathetic. If Lebanon was serious about dealing with the situation they would drive them out. Putting pressure on the people will force the govt to deal with them, as the govt should have long ago.

I dont like civilian casualties anymore than the next guy. But I am also growing tired of the terrorists living freely among the civilian population, the civilian population knows about it, but dont want to deal with it because they dont have to.

One thing about WWII that fascinates me. The lack of an after war fight by the fanatics in Japan and Germany, who are just as die hard as these guys. I have a suspicion the msg we sent before the war ended through brute force on the civilian populations helped us keep the peace during our occupations. The people turned on the fanatics to save their own ass.

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

Most of my friends are Jewish (I live in New York City) and a VAST majority of them disagree with much of what Israel has done. Are they anti-semites?

O'RLY?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

When did she go bat $hit insane? Too much stress from school? The month off should help.

Not everybody has had a loved one die from a bullet to the brain shot by people who know they are right. Not everyone wants or is ready to die to the violence they contain. Not everyone knows that the enlightened soul suffers all the worlds pain in anguished silence. Not everyone will die on the cross. Not everyone knows that all that is is exactly as it has to be and that not one single thing that has ever been can ever be changed. Not everyone knows that there is only love buried deep beneath all the hate. Not everyone has a living heart that still feels. Not everyone knows that only the fool is wise.

 

[Siwy]

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

Wow, finally, the psycho zealot is gone ~ long overdue.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

When did she go bat $hit insane? Too much stress from school? The month off should help.

For some people including myself this is an incredibly emotional issue... it's very easy to get pissed off, and step over the line.

I for one don't really agree with the ban... but I see where the mod was coming from...

-Max

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Meuge
I don't know why you started this thread Doboji... I've learned long ago that you can't change antisemites... the only way to convince them is to but a bullet through the base of their brains.


That's way overboard. See you in a month!

When did she go bat $hit insane? Too much stress from school? The month off should help.

Not everybody has had a loved one die from a bullet to the brain shot by people who know they are right. Not everyone wants or is ready to die to the violence they contain. Not everyone knows that the enlightened soul suffers all the worlds pain in anguished silence. Not everyone will die on the cross. Not everyone knows that all that is is exactly as it has to be and that not one single thing that has ever been can ever be changed. Not everyone knows that there is only love buried deep beneath all the hate. Not everyone has a living heart that still feels. Not everyone knows that only the fool is wise.

wha?

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: Genx87

One thing about WWII that fascinates me. The lack of an after war fight by the fanatics in Japan and Germany, who are just as die hard as these guys. I have a suspicion the msg we sent before the war ended through brute force on the civilian populations helped us keep the peace during our occupations. The people turned on the fanatics to save their own ass.

You missing the point that by the end of WWII the civilian populations of Germany and Japan were tired of the war and their war leaders. Even that section of the population that had initially supported the government had turned against their policies. Plus the countries were broke and their spirit broken. Which is why you didn't see an after war fight. Brute force played it's part but was not the whole story.