I'm not going to read the article. I don't care about paper launches at all and I think we should all boycott them.
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Paper launch with the AT team benchmarking the card in question?
- M4H
Maybe he meant paperweight launch?
I definately think it's impressive.
It is what the NV30 should have been, and some more.
Won't be buying one though, I never buy the highest end.
It is what the NV30 should have been, and some more.
Won't be buying one though, I never buy the highest end.
a DX9 game will make it cry.
On the other hand, it is the fastest card out for DX8.1 titles, and the only DX9 test there is (albeit a crappy test, mother nature)
On the other hand, it is the fastest card out for DX8.1 titles, and the only DX9 test there is (albeit a crappy test, mother nature)
Agreed. Too rich for my blood. But if you're willing to pay that much, then have fun with it. Quite impressive.
Why do you all bash the price when the 9800Pro 256MB costs the same and there are $300 and $400 versions of it coming out?
I some how knew that nvidia would be able to make an awsome product this time around. I cant wait for this sucker to come out then ill be upgrading my gf3 with it. The wait is killing me.
Also, if you always wait for the next best thing you'll always be waiting and playing on a poor performing computer. Not fun.
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Looking forward to fanless NV35 cards for under $200 (that perform more or less like a 9700 non-Pro) to put in my main system.
Is this a confirmed product, or is it just a dream?
No, he's right. It's a paper launch. The card that they were benchmarking is not the finalized card. That hasn't even been designed yet. They won't be ramping up production of NV35 until mid june. That's just for the GPU. Then they have to be sent to the board makers who will then produce boards for them and put them into the market place. So we should see them in stores in a couple of months. Yes, that's a paperlaunch.
The 256MB Radeon 9800, on the other hand, you can buy right now from ati.com
Is it even "fair" to compare the 256MB 9800 Pro to the 256MB 5900 Ultra?
As far as availability goes...
128 MB 9800 Pros are VERY hard to find in the store. 256MB cards will be limited for a while I'm sure. Heck, I even found a 128MB R9800 Pro on ebay that fetched over $455! :Q :Q :Q
What are they using to measure this? I've been in the DVI realm for two years so I couldn't even tell how good an anlogue signal is. Heck I thought these issues were cleared up with the GF3! :Q
-DAK-
Back in September I picked up a 9700 pro. It was a gamble at that time with the NV30 due out before Christmas. I was concerned I'd drop fat cash on a card that would be mediocre in 6 months. Well here it is 8 months later and I've never been happier about purchasing a card in my life. The NV35 is impressive and I'm kinda glad too see nVidia pull it together again. I seriously doubt I'll buy one. Holding the performance crown today doesn't really mean anything. Anything above a GF4 is more than sufficient for any game out there. You might get me to buy a $500 video card after doom comes out but you're just wasting your time until then.
I guess my overall impression is one of awe and *yawn*.
Yeah...I was just trying to get a feel if this was a bad card or a trend across the chip/cards in general. I read 3 or 4 reviews and I only recall seeing it mentioned in Anand's. Gonna go back to the other reviews to look for the issue to see if it was noted.
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The NV35 benchmarks look good but what good are they since they won't be shipping cards till July/August. By that time, ATI will be either shipping or announcing their answer to the NV35. Probably a Radeon 9900 Pro with a higher clocked core, DDRII and perhaps some more architecture enhancements. Just a little something to wet our appetites more before R400. Of course Nvidia could possibly be working on another refresh for NV35. I doubt we'll see R400 or NV40 till next year.
You sir, are an idiot.
He never said that the 9800Pro was better value than the 5900Pro.
Best value != cheapest top of the range product.
Most people would say that the 9500/9700 pro cards are the best value, what seemed to be suggested was that the 9700Pro was the best value, and I woul dagree it probably is.
It's about 66% of the price, and offers perfarmance that isn't too bad, and will keep up in the near future.
nVidia hold the top end, but they need to get moving with the lower end NV35 cards, the 9700 is approaching (slowly) competition in general with the 9500Pro and 5600 Ultra.
Even though my view is subject to bias since I own one, I'd say the best value in the top end cards is definately the 9700pro. The best card is clearly the nv35, but the 9700pro has much greater value.
However, the absolute biggest bang for your buck is probably the GF4 Ti4200. It runs anything you need it to and is cheap as dirt. I'd also say that given the current release from nVidia, the 9800 is NOT a good value (slightly outperformed at the same price).
Just my opinions and all of them are easily arguable.
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