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Poll: Would you still play games like the old-school Final Fantasy?
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coloumb
Diamond Member
Alas - I think I've become impatient in my old age - I tried to play FFIV on the DS and became very annoyed with the constant random battles that would interrupt my adventuring. 🙂
However - I might overlook those random battles if the storyline was similar in style to Anachronox. 🙂
However - I might overlook those random battles if the storyline was similar in style to Anachronox. 🙂
shortylickens
No Lifer
I'm so glad Zenoth corrected him, because I thought about it then realized I dont have the patience.
JoshGuru7
Golden Member
It all depends on the quality of the game and the story. I'd definitely pay for a turn based 2D rpg with the plot line from Hyperion, but at this point you'd need to pay me the $50 to get me to play yet another JRPG with a FF-style story. On the other hand, I'd play any RPG in 2D with a great story over a 3D RPG with a poor story (Fallout 3).
I don't think the price is really a factor based on 2D or 3D rendering outside of a few cases like Crysis where it's used as a tech demo. Graphics may influence the amount of fun people get from a game, but they will still make their decisions and recommendations to others based ultimately on whether it's fun. That includes things like quality, story, imaginative gameplay, mature content, etc.
I don't think the price is really a factor based on 2D or 3D rendering outside of a few cases like Crysis where it's used as a tech demo. Graphics may influence the amount of fun people get from a game, but they will still make their decisions and recommendations to others based ultimately on whether it's fun. That includes things like quality, story, imaginative gameplay, mature content, etc.
PhatoseAlpha
Platinum Member
You know, I wouldn't, but not because of 2-d or anything like that.
It's because Console style RPGs have always, always been really bad about wasting time. Not quite as bad as the PS1 console RPGs with their 30 second spell animations, but all the same.
Playing through an old-school SNES rpg on an emulator with a 'Hurry Up Already!' button really drove home just how much time you spend in those games doing nothing at all.
Now, talk to me about a SotN style sidescroller action-RPG, and then we're talking.
It's because Console style RPGs have always, always been really bad about wasting time. Not quite as bad as the PS1 console RPGs with their 30 second spell animations, but all the same.
Playing through an old-school SNES rpg on an emulator with a 'Hurry Up Already!' button really drove home just how much time you spend in those games doing nothing at all.
Now, talk to me about a SotN style sidescroller action-RPG, and then we're talking.
Qbah
Diamond Member
Well, I misunderstood then. The fact that it's 2D doesn't really bother me that much. As long as it has a beautiful execution - for example with hand-drawn high resolution art, I can see myself playing it. Games like Braid still show that it doesn't need to be 3D to be perfect (though you do control 3 dimensions here to be fair 😛 vertical, horizontal and time 😛).
Then again since it's in the PC Section I'm guessing the OP means PC games 😉 So I will still say no 😛 - unless it's called Diablo 3 😛 😀 I ain't getting the shaft with DLC stuff again. And by that I mean DLC being released for the consoles and not for the PC.
ed21x
Diamond Member
2D isn't necessarily equate to lower production value/cost due to the fact that new games have such high frame rates that you'll have to do a TON of hand drawn animation just to get everything to look smooth and buttery. Check out a 2D game like BlazBlue. If they extrapolate that level of detail and fluidity into an RPG, that would probably be one expensive but beautiful game to develop!
I would pay full price for such a game. I have yet to see any game match the overall quality of Chrono Trigger or Super Mario RPG. Even today, almost 15 years later, I still play those two games every now and then. Both of those are 2D turn based games, and they are both excellent games.
Do we even have turn based RPGs these days? Most games I would think of as being role playing games are first person perspective such as Fallout 3 or Grand Theft Auto 4.
Do we even have turn based RPGs these days? Most games I would think of as being role playing games are first person perspective such as Fallout 3 or Grand Theft Auto 4.
zerocool84
Lifer
Fallout 3 is a watered down RPG for the masses. It wouldn't have sold well if it was a more true RPG so they made it easier for casual people to play it. Sad excuse for an RPG though. GTA games are not RPG's at all.
I would love for more sprite based RPG's to come out. I still play Dragon Warrior IV on an emulator when I am bored. Final Fantasy 3 for the SNES is still my favorite RPG that I have ever played (although Oblivion was pretty darn fun too).
I really wouldn't want it to be a Final Fantasy game though, as each subsequent FF release is stranger than the previous one. If a game had similar gameplay but a normal story line (like Dragon Warrior; which actually came first anyway) I would be more interested.
I really wouldn't want it to be a Final Fantasy game though, as each subsequent FF release is stranger than the previous one. If a game had similar gameplay but a normal story line (like Dragon Warrior; which actually came first anyway) I would be more interested.
HamburgerBoy
Lifer
No, JRPGs are usually terrible. Now, old-school 2D turn-based RPGs like Fallout on the other hand...
Frodolives
Platinum Member
I had fun with Fallout 3, but man do I wish the Van Buren Project could be completed!
alcoholbob
Diamond Member
Man Neverwinter Nights 2 was such a bad game. I guess they made a token effort graphically (for their non-existent budget) but you can't hide that fact that the Aurora engine just sucks. It's circa 1999-2000 3D engine trying to run 2007 graphics.
And the Obsidian crew is the same group that made the Icewind Dale series. NWN2 just reeks of it...it's like they had no idea how to not make the game into a melee grind fest. They failed epic levels by sending waves of low level monsters like gnolls or wolves at you, except they were running with about 35x the hitpoints (400-500 instead of 15).
And the Obsidian crew is the same group that made the Icewind Dale series. NWN2 just reeks of it...it's like they had no idea how to not make the game into a melee grind fest. They failed epic levels by sending waves of low level monsters like gnolls or wolves at you, except they were running with about 35x the hitpoints (400-500 instead of 15).
The amount i would pay would depend on the quality and length of the game. I never played FF series but if the game was like wizardry 8 with updated graphics and of similar (or longer) length; or if the game was similar to bg2 with updated graphics (and of similar length and quality) I would pay full price 🙂
Even escholeon book 1(sp) with updated graphics would be nice 🙂
Even escholeon book 1(sp) with updated graphics would be nice 🙂
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