Originally posted by: binister
Let's say you found out your 60's era home contained it.
Would you worry about doing work on your house?
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I ripped up a bunch of very old linoleum flooring without any regard for asbestos until someone mentioned it to me. Oh well, I don't think a single exposure is going to significantly shorten my life.
Friable asbestos is a term used to describe any asbestos-containing material that when dry, can be easily crumbled or pulverized to powder by hand. Material that contains more than just 1% asbestos and is friable is considered to be Regulated Asbestos-Containing Material (RACM).
Some common examples of friable asbestos are acoustic ceilings and tiles, many types of plasters, wallboard, joint compound or "mud" and thermal insulation for water heaters and pipes. Although use of asbestos in these products was banned by 1978 those already in the marketplace remained on the shelves and were used in construction for many years after. They are still commonly found in homes today.
Non-friable asbestos-containing material (ACM) is not regulated because it contains a binder or hardening agent such as cement, asphalt or vinyl. Examples of ACM are asphalt roofing shingles, vinyl asbestos floor tiles and transite siding made with cement. ACM products are still being manufactured today. The danger with this type of material is that it can pose the same hazard as friable asbestos during remodeling, repairs or other construction. Burning ACM also creates friable asbestos.
When asbestos is crushed it disperses a dusting of microscopic fibers in the air that can remain for very long periods of time. These fibers can be unknowingly inhaled and permanently lodged in lung and other body tissues, yet symptoms might not appear for 20 years or more. Inhaling the fibers has been linked to cancer and asbestosis, a chronic lung disease similar in symptoms to emphysema. Unfortunately there is no known safe level of exposure, which is why asbestos remains a concern today.
If you suspect your home might contain friable asbestos or ACM you can consult a licensed asbestos expert to conduct a survey of your home and take samples for analysis. If asbestos is found but your home is in good shape, the Air Pollution Control District (APCD) recommends leaving it while being cognizant of avoiding damage that might cause release of fibers. If you want to remodel or perform other repairs, then a licensed asbestos contractor should be hired to remove the material legally and safely. Unfortunately this is rather costly due to the hazard involved and the care that must be taken to do it properly. Materials must be wet to eliminate fiber release, and anti-dust emission controls like large specialty vacuums are used. The removed material is treated as hazardous waste, must be double-bagged and disposed of properly.
Sweeping, dusting, or using a household vacuum will only make fibers airborne. They will pass through household filters and are not visible to the naked eye.
If a home or building is being demolished for any reason, the law requires a licensed asbestos contractor remove all ACM and friable asbestos prior to demolition.
Asbestos, is a term that covers many types of naturally-occuring fibrous materials that are long-lasting, lightweight and fire-resistant, making them a popular choice for construction until the dangers were discovered in the 1970s.
Originally posted by: chrisms
My high school had it, I survived.
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: mchammer
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: mchammer
Originally posted by: marincounty
They used asbestos in brake lininings for years, still used in oem replacement brakes.
This stuff was and is in the air everywhere. Mechanics were exposed to this stuff all of the time. I don't recall a huge epidemic of lung disease.
IMHO this has been totally overblown by junk science and the media.
If you need to get rid of it, just put on a disposable suit, a mask, and glasses.
Don't pay the extortionate costs of an "official" asbestos abatement crew.
Are you a doctor? Do you know anything about how asbestos harms the body? Cite medical studies or don't post this BS.
What BS? Are you a doctor? Prove with a link that anything I posted is untrue.
You're breathing asbestos all of the time. It's still in lots of brakes, not to mention tiles, pipe insulation, ceiling tiles, etc...
You can buy all of the protective equipment the asbestos "professionals" use.
lol. You are the one that made the claims here... The asbesos doesn't come out until it is disturbed. I don't see where you would buy the stuff these people use, plus you would not have the same training. The masks and filters they have are $$$ plus they test before and after. What is your problem with this issue? I think some people on here just want to seem like they can do everything themselves and don't need help ever.
No, I'm telling you this stuff is everywhere, in the air, and is not as dangerous as the govt and media have told you. Otherwise there would be epidemics of lung disease.
The training these workers have? Are you kidding me, these are mainly high-school dropouts doing the actual work.
This is not rocket science.
Originally posted by: binister
One of our contractors was worried about it based on some things he saw in our attic/walls. Now he wants to have everything tested first, at an insane cost.
I personally think the whole asbestos scare is BS unless you are working with it on a daily basis for many many years. So now I have to decide whether to tear out the walls/tile/insulation myself or pay for the test and the inevitable "cleanup" which I am guessing will double the bill.
EDIT: I will likely be cutting/grinding the tiles to get them off of the wall fwiw.
Originally posted by: IGBT
..depending on the age of your home and work history and where you went to school most people have been exposed. Fiberglass insulation is now suspected to cause similar problems when inhaled because..like asbestos the fibers don't break down and cause chronic tissue inflamation which over time results in cancer.
Originally posted by: bctbct
As long as you dont disturb it there is no danger.