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Poll: With HD prices falling which Drive to choose?

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I agree with both CyberZer0 and Shippy. Make sure you get something with a warenty...lol...3 years...no kidding...very worth it...very! Anyway I love my IBM 60GXP's they haven't given me a problem yet, running 150fsb in raid0. I also have had the pleasure of owning WD 7200rpm drives which functioned very well. When one got screwed up the WD utilities fixed everything (because of some bad ram....not the drives fualt...this was 2 years ago and the drive is still flawless to this day). The only other drive I would consider out of those would be the Segate Cuda...just because noone seems to have problems with them and everyone loves them.
 


<< And my take on bad sectors is, if a disk ever gets bad sectors I am gonna replace it ASAP. My experience with bad sectors is that they have a nasty habit of multiplying and I would never trust a disk which has developed a fault. >>

The problem is, bad sectors of most kinds will not simply show themselves, and a normal software utility will not help. I had a WD RAID w/ IBM boot drive system running at my friend's LAN party when my other friend knocked my PC over while moving a table. First thing I did, was run Scandisk on the RAIDed drives (Where all my stuff was), and sure enough the computer would do a hard-lock and restart (If you left it locked for ~5 mins). If you run DOS Scandisk, same thing. Norton Utilities? Same. SpinRite? Guess. No matter what, with regular software utilities, you've got the same problem. It took days to copy the thousands of MP3s off it because about 1 in 10 (of 6,967 total) would lock up the computer for 5 mins and you had to be there to start copying the next in the list. I've run into Seagate and especially Toshiba drives with the EXACT same symptoms. In fact, EVERY Seagate and Toshiba drive that I've personally casually encountered (Involving repartitioning or formatting) that's 2 or more years old has had this unfixable problem (That totals to around 8 drives). To most people, that translates into having no idea why FDISK keeps "Recovering Allocation Units" or Format can't format a partition unless it's size is under the percentage it keeps locking up at (My friend's Toshiba laptop had to be in 4 partitions, and Windows is installed on a 500MB one!). So you see, with no real diag utility, you don't really know if you can trust a drive of not! Another issue I ran into: You can't fix the drives when they're on a RAID card, and when you connect to a regular IDE channel FDISK won't let you delete the corrupted partition without being an ASCII genius (The partition label is corrupted from striped RAID data). But the diag utilities always have a "write zeros to disk" option that really helps!
So I offer this advice to everyone: NEVER EVER EVER BUY ANYTHING BUT IBM OR WESTERN DIGITAL
I don't care how unreliable IBM is, because you know if it's bad unlike the others and you can just buy an older and more reliable model (They have an excelent history, if not the best)
I don't care how loud, or hot Western Digital's are. Just get a slower one, pad your case, or add extra cooling.
If we don't start buying what's really important, the Toshiba and the others will never shape up. What do you think they do when you RMA them? They run the same diagnostic/repair utility that they won't let you have.

Oh yeah, on don't ever ever EVER buy Samsung: Maximum PC makes a good point in a recent issue
Plus, WinNT, 2K, XP's built-in Dynamic Disk RAID isn't slower than High-Point and Promise's RAID controllers, because they aren't true hardware cards anyway. So for safety reasons, use XP's.
 
>>Oh yeah, on don't ever ever EVER buy Samsung: Maximum PC makes a good point in a recent issue<<

too late...
but I went to maximum PC and the site was kaput. Perhaps they had a HD failure? hehe

Arthur
 


<< ... just recently my 2 year old IBM 20g 7200rpm ATA66 went bad. >>


You too? A couple of months ago my two year old Deckstar 34Gxp died, blew a chip it seems (a chip on the controller has a burnt place at least). The bad thing is that my mom threw out the waranty 🙁 Still, have had no problems with my current two 60Gxp's so I hope it was a single case.

The experience I've had with Western Digital is good, have had a 10Gb WD drive running at 41pci (83Mhz fsb, Celeron 333 @ 416) for 3 years now and never having a problem.

Anyway, I'll soon need a new hd (damn anim&eacute; fansubs 🙂) and I think I'll get an IBM again but make sure that this time I keep the warranty.
 
If it's just the controller, you could risk another drive by swapping it. Data recovery experts have long used odd techniques such as swapping platters into a new identical drive, but this is much easier and does not require a clean-room and bunny suit. You'll probably need a Torx(tm) driver (I got a great set at Wal-Mart) or a Hex driver, and it probably won't involve breaking any seals or in anyway "noticably" voiding the warantee. Not only that, but IBM does warantee work without papers. The majority (ALL?) of their drives are sold OEM with NO papers, and the warantee is serviced by the manufacturer date + serial number.
 
CyberZer0, thanks, didn't know that. When I asked the shop they said that nothing could be done unless I had the warranty/paper I got when I bought the drive, they said that they couldn't even contact IBM with it (I thought that it worked like you said). But they might just have been trying to make me buy a new drive...
As it's an old model I cannot buy a new similar drive and swap the controller, it has to be from a similar drive right?
The drive is from november 1999 so the 3 year warranty still works. Now I just need to find out where to contact 'em, I'm lucky that they have a branch here in Denmark.
 
fry's has the 80GB barracuda for $89 ($50 rebate involved). man, these suckers are so quiet and reliable, i love it. i have gone through 4 maxtors in the life span of this one seagate. the seagate is ATA/66 and is still kicking ass!
 
I abhor Maxtor. Once they sold me a new hard drive that was broken and had a Hewlett Packard sticker on it. Do you know how hard it was to convince Best Buy that it was the hard drive I bought!
 
cyberZer0:
about the Samsung Drives: do you have the direct link to the MaximumPC
article? There are two sites (.com and .co.uk) and anyway I couldn't find
any related article there.
What was the problem with Samsung drives?
I am interested because I have bought one.

Arthur
 
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