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UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
GOP already has majorities in both houses, presidency, and one can argue the supreme court. Noone left to blame.

I would say that the lack of a "loyal opposition" is almost as much to blame for the situation we are now in as the party that is in power. Where are all the Democrats? Where's Tom Daschle? Where's the party that fought the Prez over every issue for the first nine months of his term and were really still a force to reckoned with all the way through the '02 elections? Our government is in a sad state right now but what is even sadder is that there is no viable alternative that even gives a glimmer of hope for improvement.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Perknose
As I have stated before - the guy who is the head of the finance commitee (Chuck Grassely) has told me to my face that IF we can deliver Bush and more Congress seats you will "be amazed"(his words) at the fiscal changes. And no - that doesn't mean spending more - it was in response to my questioning him on the continual gov't over spending.(see any budget thread here- you'll see my position on spending) Now I've also said that if Bush and the seats are delivered and we don't see change - I will be their harshest critic - bar none. It's one thing to be politiced to during campaigns but it's quite another to be personally taken for granted and given lip service to. If they don't get thier s#!t together I'm done. I'll join and independent movement or the libertarians and try to work for change that way but currently those options don't look workable due to other "issues" I have with them but will work to change if I join them. You see - I have a set of principles and ideals - I don't change them just because of party affiliation - so any group I join has to hold many of the same ones as I - and if not I work to change them.

So yes - this looks to be the stage for one last chance for the establishment from me and I'm going to hold up my end of the bargain.
Four years without a glint or a hint of any fiscal restraint whatsoever. Then Chuck Grassely say you'll "be amazed", gives no details, and on this basis he gets your active support.

I know you're not naive, <STRONG>CAD</STRONG>, by any country mile. Care to flesh this scenario out any?

I've already addressed this in other threads and has stated what Grassley told me(us). Like I said - I'm going to do my part - it's up to them to do theirs. There needs to be an attitude change in Washington and they have one more opportunity to do it - from me anyway. They need more than a slim majority to enact legislation and pass bills that aren't loaded with tear-jerk politics and pork riddled BS. Yes - Grassely and the rest have ALL been a part of pork and such and it seems to me from our conversation that he understands that people are fed up with the BS fiscal policy that has been in place for YEARS. So yes - inspite of the last 4 years of spending they get one more chance to fix things. The alternatives currently are? Yeah - thought so.;) The GOP knows that it's base is pissed about the spending that has gone on and aren't pleased with the drug bill entitlement. They best act on this or they will lose - and lose big from alot of people. It's too soon to jump ship - IMO.

Now again - back to the poll.

CkG
 

bigdog1218

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Mar 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I have volunteered to work for the Bush-Cheney campaign.(Ankeny Precinct 3 coordinator- not much but you have to start somewhere;))
Not because I think kerry would be bad for the US.
Not because I don't like democrats or their tactics.
Not because I don't like kerry's stances on the ISSUES.

It's because I believe Bush is the correct choice for America and I feel that working from within for change is the only way things will get progress here in the US. There is much to be done and re-electing Bush-Cheney and helping elect more Republican Senators and Representatives will help to speed reform and according to Grassely our fiscal policy and funding will change with enough seats and with Bush in the Whitehouse.

So, you see, I'm FOR the candidate and their cause and ISSUES- not just doing this because I'm "against" the other guy.

Seems that since no one has spoken up saying that they will work FOR kerry except for the reasons you posted says alot - which I was expecting.:)

CkG

Sounds like you're for Republicans only, not their causes and issues, good job.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Sounds like you're for Republicans only, not their causes and issues, good job.

Sounds like you have joined the clueless...or maybe have always been with them. Thanks for playing - now back to the poll...or don't you have anything to ad?

CkG
 

bigdog1218

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Sounds like you're for Republicans only, not their causes and issues, good job.

Sounds like you have joined the clueless...or maybe have always been with them. Thanks for playing - now back to the poll...or don't you have anything to ad?

CkG

just saying thats what you sound like, but i guess i can stay on topic and say i won't be working for any of these creatures and will be voting for the lesser of evils come election day, whoever that may be.