*POLL* Will Kobe do time?

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Zebo

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Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: josphII
Originally posted by: mpitts
It's hard to say right now. I know that the Prosecuting Attorney wouldn't have filed charges against him if he didn't have REALLY strong evidence against him.

your delusional

Whatever you say.

Again, Please rent "to Kill a mocking Bird" and come back. Many Many times in this countries history men and women have been falsely accused for political, racial as well mistaken indentity reasons.

I OWN To Kill A Mockingbird. I have seen it about 15 times. I fail to see the similarities between that movie and this case. Kobe Bryant doensn't have this problem because he is black. He has this problem because he made a stupid decision. Regardless of what he did, he put himself in a bad situation and now he is paying the price.

If you actually READ what I wrote, you would understand what I said. I am still on the fence. I don't know what he did or didn't do.

All I am saying is that the PA would not press charges against someone of such notoriety if he didn't think he had, in his mind, a solid case. You are talking about someone who, up until these charges, had a spectacular public image. I don't think the Eagle County PA is out to take that away from him.


How do you know the Da and cops ar'nt Clan Member?

How do you know the DA is'nt in this for the multimillion dollar book deal he will recieve win or loose like Ms. Clark did.

All this will be on the table. As I said I don't know but there could be a myrid of reasons he is being falsely accused. Wait and see.
 

josphII

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last week the person whos picture was wrongly associated with the accuser was on The Factor and OReilly talked with her for a good chunk of time about how is affecting her life and how she learned about it, yada yada, then he did a 180 and asked her if the accuser was a good person or not. The girl was a bit taken by the sudden tough question and you could litterally see her start to sweat. she was finally able to muster out something along the lines of "well lets just say she isnt exactly the type of person i would hang out with", OReilly presses "ok so you too didnt have a lot in common, but is she a good girl?" and the lady responds "im not gonna comment" and lemme tell you it doesnt take an expert psychologist to read that girls emotions and to see that she doesnt think very highly of the accuser.

and lemme say this. any reports of bruises or such have been so extremely vague you cant possibly extract any information from those reports. i really dont know how you, digitalsm, can say that if the reports are true then....(whatever). the reports have given such little information and been so vague you cant possibly draw any information from them, yet somehow when you read these reports you are able to gather all the facts!
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: josphII
last week the person whos picture was wrongly associated with the accuser was on The Factor and OReilly talked with her for a good chunk of time about how is affecting her life and how she learned about it, yada yada, then he did a 180 and asked her if the accuser was a good person or not. The girl was a bit taken by the sudden tough question and you could litterally see her start to sweat. she was finally able to muster out something along the lines of "well lets just say she isnt exactly the type of person i would hang out with", OReilly presses "ok so you too didnt have a lot in common, but is she a good girl?" and the lady responds "im not gonna comment" and lemme tell you it doesnt take an expert psychologist to read that girls emotions and to see that she doesnt think very highly of the accuser.

and lemme say this. any reports of bruises or such have been so extremely vague you cant possibly extract any information from those reports. i really dont know how you, digitalsm, can say that if the reports are true then....(whatever). the reports have given such little information and been so vague you cant possibly draw any information from them, yet somehow when you read these reports you are able to gather all the facts!

If they get a lot of women on this jury the prosecution is dead in the water. Women can see though another like no tomorrow.
 

ElFenix

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now they're saying kobe blocked the door when she tried to leave
 

classy

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He should hire JC. Why? Because Cochran is one of the great legal minds in this country. He happens to be black and used every trick in the book to defend OJ. Last time I checked every single lawyer white and black would do this. And its amazing how people forget it was also OJ's white lawyer who did serious damage to the prosecution's case. As for Kobe you have to wait and see.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: josphII
last week the person whos picture was wrongly associated with the accuser was on The Factor and OReilly talked with her for a good chunk of time about how is affecting her life and how she learned about it, yada yada, then he did a 180 and asked her if the accuser was a good person or not. The girl was a bit taken by the sudden tough question and you could litterally see her start to sweat. she was finally able to muster out something along the lines of "well lets just say she isnt exactly the type of person i would hang out with", OReilly presses "ok so you too didnt have a lot in common, but is she a good girl?" and the lady responds "im not gonna comment" and lemme tell you it doesnt take an expert psychologist to read that girls emotions and to see that she doesnt think very highly of the accuser.

and lemme say this. any reports of bruises or such have been so extremely vague you cant possibly extract any information from those reports. i really dont know how you, digitalsm, can say that if the reports are true then....(whatever). the reports have given such little information and been so vague you cant possibly draw any information from them, yet somehow when you read these reports you are able to gather all the facts!


I can bet if he gets convicted you will say he is innocent still. Vague? How is saying a bellhop saw red marks on her face and neck vague? Especially when said reports also state the DA has photographs of bruises on the womens face and neck(Ive heard also on the arms and back)?

Like I said, the womens past is not admissible in court. Shes not on trial, her sexual past is not admissible, and unless the defense can prove she was unstable the day of the event, her alleged oding wont be admissible either. Just because a women is sexually active doesnt mean she cant be raped. Just because she may or may not have attempted suicide doesnt mean she cant be raped.

If Kobe is convicted I can already see you saying he was railroaded. This case like I have said before, will not come down to he said she said, there is more than enough evidence for it to come down to that. His word isnt anymore credible than hers. To say it is. is stupid.

The DA has evidence, it will come out at trial. Plain and simple, this case will come down to expert witnesses, witnesses(such as the bellhop), and evidence. It wont come down to his word or her word. He will be aquitted or convicted because of those three things, not because of his word or her word.

You are biased. All along you said thats not Kobe, Kobe couldnt have done this etc. I dont care one way or the other. Im just saying the reports Ive read, paint a pretty clear picture and if it is indeed the case, and Ive said we should wait till trial several times in many different threads, it doesnt look good for him. If there is bruising on her face and neck, as well as vaginal/anal tearing, its going to be pretty tough time for Kobes defense. The DA doesnt have a smoking gun, but they allegedly have a lot of pieces of evidence that when pieced together, will present a compelling case.

You just flat out defending Kobe is just as wrong as those saying hes guilty. Ive never once said he was guilty nor have I said he was innocent. Ive said if the leaks are true, it doesnt look so good for him.
 

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At first I would have said no way. Now I feel that he probably will. No real reason, just a gut feeling. This doesn't mean that I think he's guilty (or innocent), I just feel he'll serve some time one way or the other.
 

Zebo

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As for Kobe you have to wait and see.

That about sums it up classy.

Of course I hope he did'nt do it...such a great player and seemed to be a good person by all accounts. But I hate when people assume guilt simply because of prosecution..Take a frecken government class again, and read the consititution too while you're at it...Geez.... and the media is'nt helping much...several people in this thread have already admitted they changed thier minds after all this "rumour" has been diseminated though the press.