You forgot Fujitsu. I just bought a Lifebook S6120. I haven't received it yet, but from what I've heard it's very solid.
hmmm with reference to KRK's post, temme somethin... what does the ODM provide, for eg: dell, with???? the case without the proc / mobo / ram ,etc,etc???????
oh btw which ODM supplies to toshiba?
oh btw which ODM supplies to toshiba?
Um wrong. If there is any question about price then eMachines makes the best laptops for the money hands down. I'm typing on a $1400 M6809 and for that money no one even comes close. Only thing Dell is good for is that 2001FP I've been slobbering over for about 2 months now. Even then they really suck for prices. eMachines all the way!!!
Hmm... seems kind of high priced actually. I don't really feel that 'best' ever relates to price. Pricing is relative- I can usually get items from the big 4 laptop makers at very low costs- doesn't mean any are better or worse.
It is also strange none have said Toshiba, who have the best glass of any laptop maker hands down (most of their technology is licensed by other manufacturers). IBM has the best innovation when it comes to onboard components (security has been their #1 priority for the last 2-3 years now). Dell does make a nice system and a lower than most price. HP is just finally getting over the merger 'blues', where they aren't just using the old Compaq 'crap', rather developing their own stuff. Give them 1 more year- then they'll be really strong at both product and price.
Emachine, Gateway, and others are very nice products- especially when realizing their market- very small biz and consumers. Would I buy 10k of them a year- nope, their long-term quality just isn't there; even for a product category that only has a ~3 years lifecycle.
Also keep in mind- Sanyo, Cannon, and couple of other laptop manufacturers, while 98% of the people will never own one of their self-name-branded systems, you might by purchasing a larger company's system. These guys usually end up making systems that get rebranded (much like the Tablet PC market).
Oh and the Dell 2001FP 20" LCD you are raving over- that's just a BENQ monitor. While being a great product for the price, there are better performing and looking monitors from Samsung and NEC- both for a few bucks more.
Originally posted by: thraxes
ECS lost Apples contract to make Notebooks due to "quality concerns"
hrm I wonder if that hapend around the time of the G3 ibooks. So many of those have been plaged with faulty logic boards. I know from first hand experience that ECS makes low quality stuff because I have an ECS mobo in my desktop. I had nothing but troubles with it being flaky after I have done a lot of fixing like replacing the heatsink, etc I finaly got it working stable.
I think I'll refer to laptop lines than the companies themselves
1. T/R series Thinkpads (Pros: unmatched in longterm livelihood, speed, portability and battery life. Cons: Initial ask price, incredibly too high)
2. Powerboooks (Pros: OS-X, longevity, portability even on 17" screen, more competitively priced than Thinkpad. Cons: Short battery life, some level of proprietor components, low screen resolution, longer cycle of upgrades)
3. nc/nw8000 (Pros: three bay spindle, portability, built-well, decent pricing. Cons: newer to the market so long-term life is questionable)
I think these are the best machines considering performance, build quality, long-term use, weight, and ammenities. There are other great machines both more expensive or cheaper but I think these three stand above the rest.
1. T/R series Thinkpads (Pros: unmatched in longterm livelihood, speed, portability and battery life. Cons: Initial ask price, incredibly too high)
2. Powerboooks (Pros: OS-X, longevity, portability even on 17" screen, more competitively priced than Thinkpad. Cons: Short battery life, some level of proprietor components, low screen resolution, longer cycle of upgrades)
3. nc/nw8000 (Pros: three bay spindle, portability, built-well, decent pricing. Cons: newer to the market so long-term life is questionable)
I think these are the best machines considering performance, build quality, long-term use, weight, and ammenities. There are other great machines both more expensive or cheaper but I think these three stand above the rest.
High priced?!?!? What, are you freaking nuts? I would like to see you come up with a comparible model from another manufacturer that doesn't cost at least $1000 more. On second thought don't waste your time because rest assured it can't be done. I was just making the point that if price alone is what you are basing this "best laptop" then there is no question. You chose to bring up a bunch of other factors that 1. I don't care about 2. Never mentioned in my previous post was the reason eMachines was the best for laptops. 3. You have no idea what you are talking about. Rebranded does not mean jack.
Like I stated in my post- $1400 seems kind of high. Without going into a crying war of Intel vs. AMD, all I'll say is a similarly configured Dell/HP/IBM I can buy for $1397 (shipping varies from vendor; with Dell raping you for the most).
Your post was only how great the eMachine was for the price- I just said price has nothing to do with price.
And I don't know what I'm talking about; I just get paid for holding my chair to the floor.
[Like I stated in my post- $1400 seems kind of high. Without going into a crying war of Intel vs. AMD, all I'll say is a similarly configured Dell/HP/IBM I can buy for $1397 (shipping varies from vendor; with Dell raping you for the most).
Your post was only how great the eMachine was for the price- I just said price has nothing to do with price.
And I don't know what I'm talking about; I just get paid for holding my chair to the floor.[/quote]
You must get paid to jack $#!^. For $1397 from Dell I can't even come close to what the 6809 has to offer. For that money you have to wait for them to have some kind of oops I crapped my pants deal. And even then you have to do a little sucky sucky on the side.
There is no one that has 64-bit proc, 80 GB HD, CD/DVD burner combo drive, 512MB PC2700, and a 64MB 9600 for even close to the same price. You need to look a little closer. So like I said you have no idea what you are talking about Mr. IT God.
Your post was only how great the eMachine was for the price- I just said price has nothing to do with price.
And I don't know what I'm talking about; I just get paid for holding my chair to the floor.
[/quote]You must get paid to jack $#!^. For $1397 from Dell I can't even come close to what the 6809 has to offer. For that money you have to wait for them to have some kind of oops I crapped my pants deal. And even then you have to do a little sucky sucky on the side.
There is no one that has 64-bit proc, 80 GB HD, CD/DVD burner combo drive, 512MB PC2700, and a 64MB 9600 for even close to the same price. You need to look a little closer. So like I said you have no idea what you are talking about Mr. IT God.
You couldn't come close to the 6800 series on bang for buck, when the rebates were going(not sure if both of them still are).
Don't even try saying otherwise. The 100+ long threads of people going for those notebooks because of exactly that price/performance ratio prove you wrong without any further discussion. You think those people wouldn't have already found the similar deal from dell/ibm(hahahahaah)/compaq/sony if there was one?
As far as best, I'd probably say toshiba.
Don't even try saying otherwise. The 100+ long threads of people going for those notebooks because of exactly that price/performance ratio prove you wrong without any further discussion. You think those people wouldn't have already found the similar deal from dell/ibm(hahahahaah)/compaq/sony if there was one?
As far as best, I'd probably say toshiba.
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