Poll: Who has had Raptors in RAID 0/1 die on them?

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SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: apoppin
I am thinking about UPgrading to a SINGLE Raptor - 36GB.

How MUCH faster than a 7200 (say arecent Maxtor IDE)?

Has the price been dropping or staying constant? Currently the 74GB is $215 from NewEgg and the 36.7 is $117 . . . expect any further drops?

Does WD have any COMPETITION from the other HD mfgs? Or is it the pinnacle of the Sata/ide (nonSCSI) drives?

I actually just "upgraded" from a Maxtor 120GB SATA 7200RPM HD to a 36GB raptor and I've been very disappointed to say the least. I was expecting an enourmous boost when loading games like Far Cry, but instead I ended up with performance that was very similar to my old drive. I would suggest saving your money, or else maybe go for the 74GB model as they are faster.

The price has been plumetting, BTW.
 

apoppin

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: apoppin
I am thinking about UPgrading to a SINGLE Raptor - 36GB.

How MUCH faster than a 7200 (say arecent Maxtor IDE)?

Has the price been dropping or staying constant? Currently the 74GB is $215 from NewEgg and the 36.7 is $117 . . . expect any further drops?

Does WD have any COMPETITION from the other HD mfgs? Or is it the pinnacle of the Sata/ide (nonSCSI) drives?

I actually just "upgraded" from a Maxtor 120GB SATA 7200RPM HD to a 36GB raptor and I've been very disappointed to say the least. I was expecting an enourmous boost when loading games like Far Cry, but instead I ended up with performance that was very similar to my old drive. I would suggest saving your money, or else maybe go for the 74GB model as they are faster.

The price has been plumetting, BTW.
Thanks for the input. My 40GB 7200 Maxtor is not SATA but plenty fast . . . i just wondered if the Raptor would make much difference . . . like you, i game and from reading the consumer reviews at NewEgg, gamers are disappointed if they were expecting more performance.


From what i have read here, the newer 36es are as fast as the 74s.
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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Originally posted by: Tabb
Agreed, I know its fast. I am curious as to how restoring the drives work since these would be for my O/S. I'd problely use my 120 for backup of the images and storage and then a 250Gb for uh.... files....
Lets say your RAID 0 drive dies one you, you've got nothing on the 120 expect you're images of the drives? How do you go about putting them backon? Would you need another computer with the program that would put the image back on?

With Drive Image you boot from the CD and follow the menus to restore from your backup image. There is an F6 prompt for installation of drivers. You will need to do this so Drive Image can write to your SATA array. The process works, however XP doesn't like being transferred to a new HD and it won't boot. I am using v7.0. This may have been dealt with in the latest release v7.03 but I don't really know. Trying to get information from Symantec is nearly impossible unless you want to pay them. I have explained a lot of this in my earlier post.

Edit: I may have found the answer here.
 

artimusbill

Member
Jun 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: Tabb
Agreed, I know its fast. I am curious as to how restoring the drives work since these would be for my O/S. I'd problely use my 120 for backup of the images and storage and then a 250Gb for uh.... files....
Lets say your RAID 0 drive dies one you, you've got nothing on the 120 expect you're images of the drives? How do you go about putting them backon? Would you need another computer with the program that would put the image back on?

With Drive Image you boot from the CD and follow the menus to restore from your backup image. There is an F6 prompt for installation of drivers. You will need to do this so Drive Image can write to your SATA array. The process works, however XP doesn't like being transferred to a new HD and it won't boot. I am using v7.0. This may have been dealt with in the latest release v7.03 but I don't really know. Trying to get information from Symantec is nearly impossible unless you want to pay them. I have explained a lot of this in my earlier post.

Edit: I may have found the answer here.

I wish I had known this about 5 days ago :) I bought DriveImage 7.0 for the specific intent of backing up my raid volume. It seemed to restore fine, but wouldn't boot, same issue as you. I will make a new backup, and put this information with it. Thank you for finding it :)

I have used 2 WD Raptor 36 gig drives in Raid0 for over, and have not had any problems with the drives. I have an Asus P4P800 mobo with an Intel raid controler (ich5r). Windows installs in about 15 minutes, games load quickly, ect. Very fast. A single Raptor will not drastically outperform a 7200rpm drive. It is a step up, not a quantum leap.

I do have a question. Can raid volumes be defraged, or scandisked? If so, do I need a raid specific app to do it? Thanks.
 

Technonut

Diamond Member
Mar 19, 2000
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I had 2 36.GB Raptors fail on me while in RAID0.... Then, running single drives, one of the RMA replacements developed the "click of death" in about 6 months. The 2nd replacement is getting ready to fly south soon... :( It passes the WD drive tests, but clicks loudly sometimes on boot.

Badluck? Perhaps.... I am going for advance RMA replacements this time. ;) AFAIK the replacement drives will be new. :)

EDIT: Raptors were running on the Intel ICH5R SATA controller.... (DFI and ABIT mobos)
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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641
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Originally posted by: artimusbill
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: Tabb
Agreed, I know its fast. I am curious as to how restoring the drives work since these would be for my O/S. I'd problely use my 120 for backup of the images and storage and then a 250Gb for uh.... files....
Lets say your RAID 0 drive dies one you, you've got nothing on the 120 expect you're images of the drives? How do you go about putting them backon? Would you need another computer with the program that would put the image back on?

With Drive Image you boot from the CD and follow the menus to restore from your backup image. There is an F6 prompt for installation of drivers. You will need to do this so Drive Image can write to your SATA array. The process works, however XP doesn't like being transferred to a new HD and it won't boot. I am using v7.0. This may have been dealt with in the latest release v7.03 but I don't really know. Trying to get information from Symantec is nearly impossible unless you want to pay them. I have explained a lot of this in my earlier post.

Edit: I may have found the answer here.

I wish I had known this about 5 days ago :) I bought DriveImage 7.0 for the specific intent of backing up my raid volume. It seemed to restore fine, but wouldn't boot, same issue as you. I will make a new backup, and put this information with it. Thank you for finding it :)

I have used 2 WD Raptor 36 gig drives in Raid0 for over, and have not had any problems with the drives. I have an Asus P4P800 mobo with an Intel raid controler (ich5r). Windows installs in about 15 minutes, games load quickly, ect. Very fast. A single Raptor will not drastically outperform a 7200rpm drive. It is a step up, not a quantum leap.

I do have a question. Can raid volumes be defraged, or scandisked? If so, do I need a raid specific app to do it? Thanks.

Sorry, but I should have posted back earlier but I can't get this to work. That fix didn't work as the file doesn't exist on my system......anywhere. I tried several possible fixes in the FAQ at the Symantec site. I've tried all the oprions in the recovery console. About googled myself to death trying to find an answer to this.

At this point Drive Image will not do what I truly want it to be able to do. That is, restore my image to a different RAID array. I'm getting a little frustrated.
 

artimusbill

Member
Jun 6, 2003
30
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Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: artimusbill
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: Tabb
Agreed, I know its fast. I am curious as to how restoring the drives work since these would be for my O/S. I'd problely use my 120 for backup of the images and storage and then a 250Gb for uh.... files....
Lets say your RAID 0 drive dies one you, you've got nothing on the 120 expect you're images of the drives? How do you go about putting them backon? Would you need another computer with the program that would put the image back on?

With Drive Image you boot from the CD and follow the menus to restore from your backup image. There is an F6 prompt for installation of drivers. You will need to do this so Drive Image can write to your SATA array. The process works, however XP doesn't like being transferred to a new HD and it won't boot. I am using v7.0. This may have been dealt with in the latest release v7.03 but I don't really know. Trying to get information from Symantec is nearly impossible unless you want to pay them. I have explained a lot of this in my earlier post.

Edit: I may have found the answer here.

I wish I had known this about 5 days ago :) I bought DriveImage 7.0 for the specific intent of backing up my raid volume. It seemed to restore fine, but wouldn't boot, same issue as you. I will make a new backup, and put this information with it. Thank you for finding it :)

I have used 2 WD Raptor 36 gig drives in Raid0 for over, and have not had any problems with the drives. I have an Asus P4P800 mobo with an Intel raid controler (ich5r). Windows installs in about 15 minutes, games load quickly, ect. Very fast. A single Raptor will not drastically outperform a 7200rpm drive. It is a step up, not a quantum leap.

I do have a question. Can raid volumes be defraged, or scandisked? If so, do I need a raid specific app to do it? Thanks.

Sorry, but I should have posted back earlier but I can't get this to work. That fix didn't work as the file doesn't exist on my system......anywhere. I tried several possible fixes in the FAQ at the Symantec site. I've tried all the oprions in the recovery console. About googled myself to death trying to find an answer to this.

At this point Drive Image will not do what I truly want it to be able to do. That is, restore my image to a different RAID array. I'm getting a little frustrated.

I would be happy if it would restore to the SAME array :)
 

jl123

Member
Nov 4, 2000
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My single raptor gets 39MB/s on average. Not too shabby but I plan to upgrade to 2 74GB raptors for raid 0. Don't really care about loosing my data because I wouldn't keep anything important on it.