Corporate Thug
Lifer
which is faster (which will win a majority of diverse benchmarks): an oced 1700+ to 2.4 (lets say 200*12) or a 2500+ barton oced to 2.2?
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**POLL**which of the following CPU's are faster?
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MercenaryForHire
Lifer
Faster by MHz = 1700 TBred
The Barton should be the winnAr though, as it's packing 640kb of cache.
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The Barton should be the winnAr though, as it's packing 640kb of cache.
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Corporate Thug
Lifer
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Ketchup
Elite Member
I would say the 1700+, but it would be close. As noted in most reviews I have read (hint) the extra cache does very little to make the Barton faster. Plus, I personally feel AMD overshot the PR rating with the Barton (probably due to problems getting yields out of these chips). I think you would be happier psychologically with the 1700+ since you are getting a bigger overclock, spending a lot less money, and will still have a faster overall speed. Depending on the multiplier, you also may be able to get a higher FSB with the t-bred, which would make up for any performance loss due to having less cache.
Why did you pick those particular speeds and not even list what multi x fsb the Barton was at 😕 I have a 2500+@2.3ghz 1.632v actual 200fsb and it outperforms the 2100+@ 2.424ghz 200fsb I was using so why is the Barton only at 2.2ghz again when very few have 1700+'s@2.4ghz on 1.85v or less again? BTW, my 2500= will do 2.4ghz@1.75v so why not ask which is faster at 2.4ghz??? This poll suX0rz :disgust:
Brian meant 2.4ghz Jeff, he's from Malaysia so this isn't his first language to type in so play nice 😉 I'll bet he types english a good deal better tha you or I could his first language :light:
Corporate Thug
Lifer
a friend of mine asked this question, he had a barton at 2.2 and a friend of his had a 1700+ at 2.4. thats why i picked the numbers, it wasnt random. and i didnt know what his FSB X multipler was, so i didnt want to just make it up
btw, what week barton do u have?
That sounds reasonable Jeff thanx for the stat 🙂
Soulkeeper
Diamond Member
comparing the guys' two systems would be hard by clock speed and cache only
unless they have the same chipset/ram/other hardware (cept the cpu) and the same os
just get them to compare benchmarks, that's the best way to know
my vote goes for the barton just cause the things i do would like cache
unless they have the same chipset/ram/other hardware (cept the cpu) and the same os
just get them to compare benchmarks, that's the best way to know
my vote goes for the barton just cause the things i do would like cache
Jeff7181
Lifer
I got the 5% result from AnandTech's benchmarks in their XP3000 article. Did a little math... and the average gain of a 2.167 Ghz Barton over a 2.167 Ghz Thoroughbred is 5%
Of course sometimes it makes no difference at all, for instance, in 3D Rendering, and other times it makes a 16% difference, in their Content Creation test with SYSMark2002.
The average gain in performance in games is 5.5% And to be honest, gaming performance is my main concern.
In contrast, Intel's recent attempt to increase performance with Hyper Threading gives on average, a 0.06% improvement in games, which isn't particularly accurate because of 6 tests, the only one effected by Hyper Threading was Quake 3 Arena, and that increased the performance from 327.4 FPS to 328.7 FPS.
However, their 800 Mhz FSB increases gaming performance by an average of 4.6% Of course, as the Intel fans will point out, that's also with a drop of 66 Mhz.
Soulkeeper
Diamond Member
yeah i have an old chipset with a slower fsb so the extra cache would prob make a larger difference
LOL! You should have played along Brian 😛 BTW, how does a Malaysian Chinese end up a native english speaker 😕 I'm just a ignorant and poorly travled American so these things are puzzling to me 😀
Isn't there sposed to be some benchmark that measures multitasking performance?.. wasn't it called something like csa researchor something?
It would be really cool to see if the extra cashe would make a difference under heavy multitasking..
To see if a barton stays more responsive under load... I wish someonewould make such a review.
It would be really cool to see if the extra cashe would make a difference under heavy multitasking..
To see if a barton stays more responsive under load... I wish someonewould make such a review.
wrong, we do have Mc'Donalds here, but the catalyst was British colonialism(or else i would just be some Chinese commie shouting Mao Zedong rocks, Bill Clinton sucks!!!😛 j/k, don't take it seriously)...........my family was english educated, so english is my main language when i talk with my parents. and there's no english school here, only national school, but the lingua franca in the school is english, as with most of the national schools here in and around the capital. but i can speak a variety of chinese dialects and malay, of course which is the national language
EDIT😀amn, too many spelling errors.
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